JRVoss

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Time for a fun little game of "What Would It Be Like Without Exploiting!"

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So you're admitting it's an exploit? Good.

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What would it be like without exploiting? Well, single heroes would be running around from door to door,

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Because nobody would ever think that grouping would still get them their badges faster...

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killstealing and leaving mobs behind after they get those badges,

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Because killstealing and mob leaving didn't always happen in the game since launch.

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possibly putting heroes in the low level zones at risk when the tricks catch up to them en mass.

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High level heroes can't trick or treat doors in low level zones. So um, no.

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What is it like now? Everyone is organized in groups of 8, taking turns clicking in the same door.

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Doing something boring and repetitive just to get ahead. Exactly the sort of thing Statesman said he disliked. I'll be happy to go snatch the radio interview if you want me to.

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I don't see where the problem is. It's certainly not as intended, but it's safer for everyone else.

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Debunked for things already said.

Really people, don't try to defend your guilty consciences. The devs didn't think ahead, everybody exploited and it will probably be fixed next year. Deal. I know I am.

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So .. wandering from door to door isnt repetive, but standing at the same door is ???

I dont get it ?

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I don't know if what Statesman said was truly the intentions or not. I DO know that this rollout went against MANY things he has said previous to this issue. I'll believe the actions for now, thank you.


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Hmmm. So the fact that we've....

1) rolled back stun attacks on Trolls and Outcasts
2) removed stun from Nemesis minions
3) made the Terra Volta trial easier several times
4) fixed the bug where Rikti Greater Swords were doing double their damage
5) Shrunk the level range at the entrance of the Hollows
6) Moved Contacts in the Hollows into safer locations

Does those actions perhaps support my "intentions..." about the lower levels?

I cannot stress enough - the +1 mobs everywhere are a BUG. We did NOT notice them on the Training Room server. It happens. I made a mistake. We're fixing it (though it isn't live yet).

Oh - we did make Nemesis and Rikti more difficult by giving them more powers - at the higher levels.

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Fine, Statesman, but how about the mission I had today (1 hour timed) to take out Sidokan and His Coven with my L18 Energy/Energy Blaster. The overall mission not too bad in spite of a number of +1 Astral Followers until I got to the Boss (+1 RED) who cast stuns and holds in chains so that the toon could not move, run, attack or anything until dead. He died twice trying to take the boss out and finally gave up and let the mission time out. I have done this mission before Update #2 with other alts and never had this kind of experience. Bug? I have petitioned it.

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Similiar experiance happened to me on one of those god awful "suprise" timed missions. Defeated 15 outcasts and then suddenly got a timed mission... wonderful.
It was against the "auctioneer", it was an outcast mission.
Everything was +1 for my tanker, which was doable and enjoyable. Unfortunately the last boss "IcePac or snopac"... something like that was a controller or defender type. He just kept me frozen in a block of ice and wittled me down.
By that time it was way to late, I just went to bed, and of course the timer went out and I "failed" the mission.

If it wasnt timed, and as late as it was, I actually wouldn't have any complaint, I would have died, gotten someone to help me and then finished it.

Ah well.

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This is closer to the spirit of my statement - but the crux here is "decent rate of speed." Some Archetypes do it faster than others. Controllers, and to a degree Defenders & Tankers, solo slowly. That's totally acceptable.

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Totally acceptable? To whom? Not the players.

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To be more precise, you should have said "some players", it's totally acceptable to me and the people I play with. Yes, we do play controllers, defenders, and tanks.