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I'd prefer to see sleeper 5th column agents infiltrating Arachnos, than the other (over-used) Deus ex machina that is Nemesis.

I just hope that they don't do Longbow mission after Longbow mission (with a few COT's thrown in for good luck) as they are the Arachnos main enemy....as that's kinda what COV is like anyway.

In addition to Luddites in Cap, it would be nice to take on those thieving Goldbrickers, with maybe Midas as the AV at the end?

St Martial, more of a Tsoo theme? The story arc on heroes side, where they are trying to take over Talos, could be expanded upon....never really excplained why there are Blue Ink men in the Rogue Isles? Another Tsoo AV maybe?

As it looks like we will be getting all new story arcs for our VEATs, my question is what would you like to see covered?

One thing that I always think when I go into Cap, is how under used the Luddite group is. Hopefully one of the storyarcs / missions will be from Marshall Brass / Dr Aeon that will deal with the anti-technologists?

Are there anything that you would like covered when the VEAT missions are revealed?

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3) Your gun powers transfer to your mace or backpack, using different animations.

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I hope this is the case - even if it is just to stop the differe 're-draw' animations as you swap between mace and gun....plus it would fit in better with the character concept.

Any idea what TheWolfman's Demon character / Demonic SG is called so a search can be performed?

I played last night, and there were plenty of Demonish looking characters about, but no-one who I spoke to seemed to be on a demon themed sg.

Also the powers have to be Fire or Dark.....do we know any details on who is already in the sg? Might be one AT heavy, therefore I would roll a supporting alt.

What is your character name (in the game) that we should look for if interested in joining?

Sorry been away from the game for 4 days while I cover off visiting relatives for Xmas - back now.

Did u get on sg? I'll be in Paragon this evening, if you want to give me a shout (Mucro vir)

Thanks Mate

Got a relative coming to stay with me for a couple of days so probs wont be on that much until the weekend - hope the DB team does okay

Team / SG had outing last night.

Some reached the heady heights of level 8!

If you are DB and want in, send a tell in game to either Mucro vir, Spiral Outrage or Cleddyfwyr.

Please refer to earlier responses to this thread with regards to the sg costume / face tattoo (scar).

Thanks

Have you still got an alt at a high enough level to set-up the sg?

Looks like it's tomorrow night then guys - is everyone gonna be on? Are we starting in Atlas or Galaxy?

I will be rolling a DB/WP Scrapper called Mucro vir

Is someone prepped to make the sg ready for i11 launch / add each other's globals so we can find each other in game?

Are we running Atlas Park or Galaxy missions? Taking the Hollows route or Police Band KR missions?

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Okay.. following a conversation with BH, we are The Hand of Chronos.

Rank titles he thought of could be:

Sword, Blade, Dagger, Knife, and Dart. Which I think would work best in this order:

Sword

Dagger

Dart

Knife

Blade

As the sizes of the above go down in actual length, longest first. Opinions/ideas?

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Corrected

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Time travelling and changing the past is imposible by the equation:
Event X causes Person Y to go back and prevent Event X.
But if Event X never happens, Person Y never goes back.

Now some would state that a "Chronologic anchor" would preserve Person Y's motivation, but with Event X never happening Person Y has no motivation to preserve.

As such timetravel becomes pointless, aside from going back and learning from the past, trying oneself against a foe before he is imprisoned so one might be prepeared for once he is no longer so.

So you can't change the past to change the present, but you CAN know your past, change the present and thus shape the future.

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If you travel to the Ourborous zone, if that exists outside the normal timestream, then the motivation to go back to change things would still exist, as the changes to the timestream wouldn't effect you, until you left Ourbourous?

As for people's backstories being effected by time travel possibilities, for the time being, the mechanism in the game doesn't allow you to go back to any point of time you choose (so using the previous example to stop Crey Corporation becoming evil) and only to a point that the Menders are citing that someone has gone back in time to already and interfered with, with the goal that you are putting it right. The free play missions, where you can access story arcs that you missed are part of COX cannon and therefore if you have written a backstory that is contradictory to that then that is your error. As far as I am aware, the story arcs that exist don't allow you to stop Crey forming, otherwise a whole villain group is borked.

So, as far as I can see, the way time travel is played out in COX is that it is 'Policed' by Ourbourous and therefore you should still be able to have your existing backstories in place, with maybe the amendment of

'...now working with Ourbourous to try and stop Crey corporation before they start and pay them back for what they did to me. However tracking down the exact locations and time periods that would prove the most effective and least detrimental to this timeline is proving tough. Who knew that temporal mechanics would be this complex?'

Just a thought....sorry if I singled out the crey example - I'm not meaning to have a go, but from my expreinces on the test server, I found the 'time-travel' missions to be quite controlled / restricted by Ourborous and therefore failed to see the backstory issues that could be encountered by this. If it was time-travel in the case of 'you could travel to anywhere you wanted' then, yes that might be an issue.....but who is to say that (like the example above) that if you did something like 'Stopping Crey being Evil' that someone else isolated by the timestream would go back and undo your undoing by then helping Crey be evil, thus creating a never ending loop.....very much like the Ourborous logo!

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Blade of Chronos sounds too aggressive, violent and not refined for a hero team/SG

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I disagree - if it were dagger of chronos, then yes that would be a tad less heroic, but many of the images that are tied with mythology of weapons usually bestowes a certain heroic appeal - excaliber probably being a good example - or in the example of the sword of damocles an instrument of divine retribution.

My point is, I don't think Blade immediately has villainous links and as the title of this thread was a dual swords team, then I think there should at least be some reference to that.....unless everyone wants to open it out to other weapon tanks / scrappers.....then this thread kinda turns into something else.

What about Blade of Chronos....this ties alot of the ideas together?

Europa was what I was calling Future Europe, when indivdual countries ceased to exist and it became a superstate....maybe in answer to the disaster that befell America....that originated in the early 21st century....hence the need to travel back in time to prevent it.

However if people are wanting to create 'Supersoldiers' from countries outside of Europe, then I would hate to be exclusionist.

If not Europe then, the world? Earth?

How about the 'Blademasters of Future Earth' or 'Blademasters of Europa'?

Of course if we are from Earth, then that kinda rules out the Alien idea that someone earlier in the thread had.....unless in the future there are aliens living on Earth....which of course there are already if you count Khelds.....I'll stop now before I get any more confused!

Depend on how people feel about it.

I was thinking that the Green / Blue costume shown to represent Earth Colours could be the sg colours, allowing people to make their individual costumes in the colours of their choosing to represent the country / flag that they want?

I don't think talking RP is obligatory - I always write a back story for my characters and it will be cool to have a group of characters that look like they are linked. If people want to role play I'm up for that too - I won't impose anything on anyone that they don't want to do.

...plus if your character is from Sweden, he can just not join in the English seaking conversation that much because of the language barrier!!!!!

Good point about the tech suit.....although it is only tech in name, if the willpower powers come from genetic manipulation and the super sword skills come from years of training at the Europa academy of excellence*. I just put that thing in to explain why we were wielding non blasty powers.

*not the real name!

I suppose that because we can have different costume slots, it isn't too much of a problem to have a similar design of cossies in one of the slots is it?

The indivduality of what motivated our individual characters to sign up to go back in time / join the supersoldier program can be upto us.

Agreed that we should have the face tattoos showing, in all costumes. The only reason that I thought about country flags, as a colour scheme for the uniform is that it's quite a comicky thing to do (see captain american / Britain, Wonder Woman etc) and rather than us all looking the same, it will help to differentiate us. Plus it's not unlikely that there would be more than one character from any one country, as it would be a talent based search over europe?

Flags lend themselves a bit more than just going for colours, as once the popular colours / names go, I hardly think there'll be arush to make a character if your assigned shade is lilac or pink. I of course reserve the right to stand corrected!

I have a name aswell, so are we going for the Blademasters sg then?

Anyone else want to speak up with a negative?

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The tech suit with flags is also another good idea to me, although it does have me wondering (perhaps a little naiively) if in the future, there would be no seperate countries politically speaking, just Earth as a united whole (Against the Rikti/Shivans maybe?) with a single planetary defence corps. to guard the whole planet.


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Maybe in the future political boundaries will be gone, but just thinking about what it's like in the UK today, although we are all 'British' if you ask people they are proud to say they are 'Welsh', 'Scottish', 'English' etc. with even people from smaller regional locations being proud of their heritage (I'm Liverpudlian / Glaswegian / Mancunian / Cockney etc.). My point is that even if/when Earth becomes one nation, I think people will always refer to their roots.

For this purpose, the futuristic high-tech idea could be 'the blademasters of Europa' where Europe has become a superstate and this force is their supersoldier programme. The Tattoo's could be the mark that Supersoldiers get once they have proved themselves or something that appears on their face after under going the genetic manipulation, to give them the willpower powers (this would lead everyone in the team to have a mutant / science origin?)

Why the swords and not futuristic guns? Maybe the time travel technology that the Europa scientists have doesn't allow the transportation of complicated technology....only biological material and simple weapons (like swords) - hence why the training / genetic manipulation has taken place in the future to send back in time to help prevent the upcoming disaster that obviously the leaders of Europa want to avoid.

Or this.....

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4...rapper3lz2.jpg

A group of Hi-tech soldiers sent back from the future, representing the different countries of the world (their costumes are the colours of the flags of their country)