Golden Girl
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Quote:So this city I'm in has people segregated by their income?Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
One is being robbed in the rich section of town, one is being robbed in the slums.
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Quote:And how exactly do I know what they are?Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Or, to put it more evilly (muahahaha), two people are getting mugged at the same time. No one will be killed, but you can't help both. One victim is a multimillionaire, the other is a low-income person. Who do you save? Why?
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Quote:Actually, it is the natural way to actOriginally Posted by Lothic
You are confusing what's natural with human morality. You may think acting morally is the "proper" way human beings should act and that's fine. But there's really absolutely nothing NATURAL about it.
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Quote:That's why a superhero can never follow the law 100%Originally Posted by Gehnen
Very few will argue with that. What stops you from eventually becoming judge, jury, and executioner? What happens when the justice system lets out a serial killer you put away, and he kills again? What about if someone targets your family?
Can you keep your temper in check forever? Sometimes the law isn't always right.
Political questions aren't allowedQuote:Are you going to fly over to other countries, and enforce your rules on their culture?
Recluse seems ok with the whole "I'm a villain" thingQuote:I'm not sure you see the entire picture. Supervillains wouldn't call themselves that, they'd call themselves heroes.
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Quote:But it's the natural choice to help the most number of people at any time - like an earthquake would endanger way more people than a mugging would.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Ah, but who would you help?
Unless you are Multiple Man, you can't be every where at once. You start to patrol a certain district or city. Or maybe you do patrol the whole world, but certain sectors during certain days. Either way, you can't help everyone at the same time.
Which then leads, consciously or not, NOT helping certain people. You can't stop that mugger in NYC because you are stopping that earthquake in California. Pretty soon, you have rationalized WHY you are helping people. "They don't need my help because crime is so rare in that city, the police will be able to handle it." "Millions are dying, but it is war between two nations, I can't stop that." It is only a short leap from that to ONLY helping certain people. And from that, only helping them in the way YOU see it as best. And so on. -
Quote:Which is just like real lifeOriginally Posted by Lothic
Helping others, as you put it, would become merely something you'd CHOOSE to do, not something you HAD to do.
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Quote:I'm sure you're twirling your moustache when you say thatOriginally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Nice rationalization!
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Quote:The only moral option with superpowers is to use them to help othersOriginally Posted by Lothic
Actually ego-centric self-preservation is the "natural" thing to do. Things like morality and doing the "right thing" like you are talking about are human rationalizations for an orderly society.
In a world where no one has super powers we have to collectively encourage people to act as you suggest so that we all get along. In a world where someone "tips the scales" by getting super powers all bets are basically off. The person with powers no longer has any moral imperative to follow the rules unless, for some "unnatural" reason, they still want to.
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Quote:That's why superpowered women are needed to help solve the bad man problemOriginally Posted by TrueGentleman
Tell me something Lord Acton didn't already know: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
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Quote:It's kinda hard to subdue a Kryptonian level personOriginally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I just violently subdued you for arresting people in an illegal fashion (super powered vigilantism), which harms the rights of those who from a legal perspective are potentially innocent.
Continue? (Y/N)
P.S.: You were also eaten by a grue.
And I'd be a legal hero, not a vigilante
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Quote:Protecting innocent people from harm doesn't need rationalizing because it's a natural thing to do - only villains need to rationalize their actions, because they're acting un-naturallyOriginally Posted by Lothic
Bingo! With Kryptonian level powers it'd be pretty easy to rationalize your actions and judge anyone around you to suit whatever your agenda happened to be.
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Quote:No one get's burnt - they get arrested and have a normal trial like anyone elseOriginally Posted by Gehnen
Very well done. That's a broad enough scope that you can burn anyone you want, and tell the public that they were "Bad people harming innocent people."
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The Goliath War Walker is a GM on the Apex TF
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Quote:Bad people harming innocent peopleOriginally Posted by Gehnen
Define "bad guys", GG.
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There are new Tip and Morality missions in I19 too, so there'll be something in the 30-40 level range
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Quote:That would depend on what powers they had - If I had Kryptonian level powers, I'd keep the bad guys awayOriginally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True, but those wimps get wiped out as soon as they pop their heads up.
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Quote:Or Neuron could have been up to his wacky hijinks again, and they might be similar to Malta Titans.Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
I think the War Walkers are probably drones derived from Clockwork technology. So, no pilots. Sorry!
EDIT: It's also nice to see the end of the original GR teaser trailer finally happening in-game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrT_sXrXKY
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I don't think he's on either of the new TFs - Battle Maiden is the AV on the Apex one, along with a Goliath War Walker GM, and Neuron and Bobcat are the AVs on the Tin Mage one - so even if you can't punch Tyrant in the face, you can still punch his thugs in their faces
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More Tyrants running around?
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Luckily, not everyone would become evil if they had superpowers
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I wonder if there'll be another trailer, as this one is totally focused on the Apex TF?
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Another possible source of those swords might be Apex.
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Quote:The devs seem to like 35-50 zones, so it's posisble that a new Praetorian zone would be in that level range - possibly with the Vanguard forward base in it that Dark Watcher mentions they're going to set up during the Warden exit arc.Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Personally for me, unless they plan to open a NEW ZONE (preferably one not truly in Cole's control) in Praetoria there is no point for the arcs that extend that story line to be in Prae.
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Quote:Yes - the Hero one is about why the mediporter system isnt available for everyone, and the Villain one is about the source of power of the Leviathan - so they both take place on Primal Earth, but they have Paretorian text options to help the flow of the Paretorian storyline post-20, because right now, once Praetorian exits to primal Erath, there's never another word said about their home until the MJ and Tina arcs.Originally Posted by Gaspard
Oh Wow, Really ??
I hope the two new arcs also have a moral choice to allow for the mindset of Vigilantes and Rogues too. -
The Goliath War Walkers appear on one of the new TFs that's designed to be played by Incarnates - so they could be pretty tough for non-Incarnate teams.