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This was suggested when Tyrant's bio first came out
Although, I'm not sure what actually needs redeeming - except Tyrant's soul
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Quote:Well, Trials are the main feature of the Incarnate system - so once the Praetorian war is over, the Trials will continue.Originally Posted by Chyll
trite. probably true. but I think I've lost faith that the future fights will be presented in any better light.
It's important to realize that the Incarnate system is separate from Praetoria - some people still seem confused about that - like they think that it's just an extension of GR, and that once the Praetorians are dealt with, that means there'll be no more Trials.
The Incarnate system is designed as an all-purpose endgame system - it's not just something they've spent months developing to only be used on half a dozen Trials set in Praetoria - Leagues, Trials and raids will be the main feature of the Coming Storm, and any other endgame content down the line. -
Quote:Be patientOriginally Posted by Xzero45
If I were an Incarnate, I'd rather fight Rularuu or the Coming Storm.
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Quote:You can just drag and drop themOriginally Posted by InfamousBrad
And this is the first time I've heard that the harvested temp powers are tradeable. I can't imagine how you would trade them? Where's the UI for trading temp powers? Can you add the instructions for how to give your extra molecular acid temp powers or pacification grenade temp powers to someone else to the Lambda guide, please?
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It is - and you can come test it on March 23 on the Beta server
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Quote:Haven't you ever seen that creepy sub-section of the Star Wars fanbase that genuinely supports the "ideals" of the Empire?Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Before Going Rogue, I used to wonder (seriously, I've spent real time considering the question) how dictators so easily hold their grips on people. I see now it was a failure of empathy. I did not realize how strongly some folks feel about safety and security, as illusory as security is in a police state.
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Quote:You're making that barrier yourselfOriginally Posted by Dante
But for my part, the whole system just screams Not For Your Kind at me.
I haven't bowed before anyone - and I haven't met any other player who has eitherQuote:CoX has always been about options, its one of its greatest strengths. But the content thats coming has too many imperatives to it: You WILL grind trials, you WILL fight Praetorians, you WILL have to be a hero, you WILL have lore related powers, you WILL bow before your new god, the Well.
And as the Incarnate system will continue beyond the Praetorian war, we'll be fighting non-Praetorians later on
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Quote:It hasn't yet - the Incarnate Trials have quite a few nice shiny things at the endOriginally Posted by Eva Destruction
It's like a good story can't have a nice shiny at the end or something....when did that happen?
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Quote:When GR was first announced, a few people were falling over themselves to claim that a dictatorship mightn't be that bad - they even tried suggesting that mass-murder, slavery, torture and brainwashing might be needed "for the greater good" - although with the Incarnate system, the stiff-armers have almost all crawled back under their rocksOriginally Posted by Stormbird
Just now?
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Quote:And you've gotten your wishOriginally Posted by Eva Destruction
Uh, yeah, I wanted an end game for...well about four years now. I just wanted it to be good.
And luckily for you, the Incarnate system is optionalQuote:Originally Posted by Paragon
On-topic, I never asked to be an Incarnate. I was perfectly happy having Statestwink, Recluse, Trapdoor, and the various other NPCs being "special" and so on. That's part of the RPG genre: NPCs will always be more powerful than PCs. When they announced that Incarnates were coming, I could only sigh to myself. After seeing Invention System 2.0 on beta, I wished there was a facepalm emote. While I will continue to take part in the "Incarnate experience", I have basically decided to completely ignore the "story" that's being presented. Which makes me sad penguin. CoX used to be the only MMO that I actually took the time to read all the dialog/story/clues/souvenirs/etc.
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Quote:But the other 2 Trials aren't ready yetOriginally Posted by Leandro
And now, content is being split within issues. Rather than get 4 trials at release, for some variety, we're getting two trials now, two in a couple of months. I don't like that. If it were 4 trials now, 4 trials in a couple of months, well, okay, that's understandable.
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It'll be good to be able to point people to these rather than having to write out every detail of the instructions in the chat window every single time
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Quote:I can do both - multi-tasking isn't an Incarnate abilityOriginally Posted by Draugadan
Then go study and try to learn something while we try to have a well thought out converation.
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Some nice new little bits of new lore in the Lambda overview - they make Tyrant sound quite sinister
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I'm at college
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Quote:They made sure to say that "liked to think" that he died as a happy old clock-maker - they never actually came out and said "he's dead"Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Died of old age, as a standard toy-maker.
Thats the Dev canon. No plot.
Well, that's the idea - you're meant to turn against hm so you're ready for the Incarnate system at 50.Quote:Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
And am I the only one around who hasn't rolled a Praetorian who couldn't escape Tyrant fast enough? Even my duty-bound police officer loyalist said 'what the heck am I doing' after Mother Mayhem's arc. -
Quote:At Hero Con 2009, the devs said that they liked to think that the Praetorian Nemesis died as a happy old clock-maker.Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Something I have to ask, and maybe I'm missing something: Nemesis pre-dates Marcus & Stephan's Excellent Adventure, so... where's Praetorian Nemesis?
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It's still possible that they could divide the Incarnate path at some point, and have an evil path as well as a good one, so Villains/loyalists would be able to serve Tyrant rather than fight him - but that would mean a much greater demand on development time and resources.
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Quote:They have - that's why those are the next 2 TrialsOriginally Posted by Draugadan
I knew that before you started posting it all over. Yes, I know what the next two trials are. Doesn't change my mind or my hope that they come to their sense.
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Quote:What part of an evil mirror version of a signature hero ruling an alternative world with an iron fist and using a source of cosmic power to attemtpt to conquer the multiverse seems out of place in a comicbook game?Originally Posted by Draugadan
That is dead on. It just seems contrary to what I perceive to be the game. It seems contrived. It doesn't seem like a comic story.
After I20, the next 2 Incarnate Trials are an attack on Anti-Matter's reactors, and a fight with the Praetorian Hamidon in the UndergroundQuote:I just hope they come to their senses and change directions.
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Quote:Nemesis created the Praetorian Hamidon 25 years ago to bring about the current situation to distract people from complaining about everything being a Nemsis plot.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Wait, what happened to being bored by everything being a Nemesis plot?
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Quote:Yeah - the twirl reading on the moustache-ometer is over 9,000 for Tyrant - he's an epic villain who must be totally making the other supervillains int he agme jealousOriginally Posted by galadiman
I must say, that of all the villains we've been presented with, Cole is one of the Top villains in the game to make me viscerally angry at them. I guess I have a thing against guys who rob people of their free will without even their own knowledge of said theft. And feeling 'entitled' to do so, and relying on blind loyalty to one cause or another to maintain 'order'. And there are a couple more contacts in some of the Praetorian arcs that make me feel similarly angry towards them
So I am not at all bored with Praetoria or the enemies it presents us.
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Quote:I'm notOriginally Posted by Selenir
So is anyone else bored of the new obsession with Praetoria?
The Well gives Tyrant his power because he serves it - Statesman and Recluse aren't so keen on that ideaQuote:However, why the hell is Praetoria the source of all the new Incarnate content? What makes Cole so powerful that he can CONTROL the Well of the Furies? Why can't Statesman or Recluse do that?
The next two Incarnate Trials after I20 will be an atatck on Anti-Matter's reactors, and a fight with the Praetorian Hamidon in the UndergroundQuote:But we do NOT need more Praetorian-based Incarnate content this soon. Please, make i21 and i22 about Hamidon or Rularuu or a brand-new threat, or ANYTHING but Praetoria.
Actually, he's powerful because he's surrendered himself to the Well - he's the champion of the Well, not the master of it.Quote:Cole doesn't even inspire fear like Recluse does, he's just... prim and proper and inexplicably more powerful than the most powerful cosmic force in the universe.
Do you want to rule the world, or be a slave of Tyrant's multi-dimensional empire?Quote:The final thing I want to say is "Where the heck is the motivation for my villains to help save a world that they don't even LIVE IN!?" Villains are SELFISH. They are EVIL. They are NOT altruistic and they are NOT self-sacrificing. Yes, exceptions can exist.
But WHY does the game expect that my villains will head into Praetoria to save its people, when I shouldn't have to care a bit about their lives or well-being?
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At PAX East, the devs actually mentioned giving Villains the chance to twirl their moustaches - so moustache-twirling seems to be a guiding principle when it comes to designing red side content, which is the way comicbook villains should be
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Quote:Well, there's also that opening a portal in Erath's orbit to fire Battle Maiden through thing - even though he seems to be sending the rest of his troops through via normal land-based portals - that's classic supervillain stupidityOriginally Posted by Lazarillo
I'm pretty sure they only have one scheme as far as unversal conquest goes. "Open portal, insert robots.".