Gear_Freak

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I almost never play Villain-Side, but I seriously hope that the upcoming issue is almost entirely Villain focused, if only so these posts will go away.

CoV has a higher percentage of polished missions than does CoH, but it has less variety too (even if the variety portion in CoH tends to be the earlier more generic missions given by standard city contacts).

So here's hoping that there'll be another bought of wacky island hijinks available for all you red side focused folks.

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I doubt that will work. It's been like this since CoV launch or shortly thereafter. I-7 gave CoV the Mayhem missions and added 40-50 level content. I-8 gave heroes the safeguard missions and revamped one zone that no one harldy ever used. So they were roughly alternating in focus.

I-9 then added the invention system as it's main feature, I-10 added a new co-op zone and high level content with the Rikti invasion as its main feature. I-11 featured Ourorobos allowing you to revisit content and new sets for the 4 melee ATs, two each side. So the last three have been more or less equal to both CoH and CoV.

And yet somehow the Devs hate CoV and don't do anything for it, only for CoH. It's not true at all, regardless of how many recurring threads we see that say so.

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Really? are we play the same game here? villina need GV rework or give a new zone much more the fault line need revamp just because ppl dont go there. thast BS. Ppl have no choice but to go to GV , faultline is skipable. So where were the dev priorties there? Mayham missions are REQUIRED tin cov. you have to run them to get contacts and you NEED them to fill in content gap. you CANT solo from 1-50 and not do a single paper mission. Hero side got radio just cause we got something that we NEEDED. radio missions are just more fluff and content for them to play with. but villian side its a nessesity. As far as RWZ were is the real co-op. its hero missions that let villian tag along. my villians aren't into saving longbow and other vanguard. leave that crap for heros. As far as the O stuff goes. again hero content. coming storm? what do i really care as a villian? coming storm=more greif for statesman and if recluse is consered with it then. then great. he'll be distracted and wont notice me and my plans. why do i care about 'helping' im a villian.

So plz , befor you post actualy think about what was giving to who and why first. then look at the actualy content. the 'added" stuff aint so villiany if you look at it. villians 'NEED" more villians content . Actualy be villian like. its bad when you have to 'kidnap' some1 and at the end of the mission they tell you 'thank you'. wth is wrong with that pic.

Lets not even talk about pvp balance, lack of SF , trials ,PPP vs APP, lack of Epic AT after 2yrs do i really need to go on? seriously dude wake up. though i enjoy cov very much. it is vastly lacking in content. and if after 1yr nothing has closed the disparity gap and in fact by your own post . hero actualy got more the villians this yr. when it was hero that already had 2x more as it was.

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Agreed.
I know its been forever and we're all antsy but I would want more than just an evil kheldian and if it is an evil kheldian, it needs to be way different than the Hero EATs. Over the last 3 years I've paid much attention to the devs and what they do and 9 times out of 10 they do an awesome job. I'm willing to wait for villain EATs so they can prove me right because the last thing I want is to have CoV turn into a dud because of something they rushed out.

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This is what im talking about. It only mostly hero based ppl that aresay its cool we can wait, take your time, give it to us if/when you can. WhaT do they care, they have epics already. T

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I play both.

I know a big part of the epic AT is the *story* behind it. It's the whole reason for the "Epic" label. If you're waiting for a godmode AT, you're not going to get it.

I know when Hero Khelds came out, they needed work, period.

I can most assuredly wait for them to be done RIGHT on villainside so I can dig into the "other" side of the Kheldian war storyline without worry. That doesn't mean I want it any less. It means I can be patient.

You can have "Good," or you can have "Fast." Which would you prefer?

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I never even mention anything about a "Godmode" AT. I want epic ATs. weither they are the same or differnet doesnt matter. After 34-35 mos (have to check to be sure) of play the CoX. I want an epic. I have 50s villian side not hero side. If its a squid so be it. It would be new to me. After 2yrs since CoV release though i would have fig. they would have gave us epics already . As for being good or fast. Think we past the fast part arnt we. We coming up on villians 2yr B-day and no epics in sight.

On that note. 2yrs villians still have 1/3 of the SF as heros, no epics, lame PPPs that you cant recpec out of, and massive lag issue compared to CoH. I10 might be alot of Fun, dont know. Personaly i say let it burn and give villians much needed content and fixs. then bring on the Co-Op and the shared issues. i would be all for it then. I will not go back to playing heros, if nothing other then out of spite and much more of villians getting sided. Ill drop the account and wait for MUO. Plz keep in mind i do like the game and devs have done a decent job here. They just need to even things up a little better and give villians a littel more to due. Co Op isnt giving villians more to do its give CoX(both sides more). May i want to actualy be a villian and not team with heros. Maybe i want to help the riki if it mean i get ahead.

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So in conclusion, epics for villians would be a great addition and I would love for them to come out soon, but I don't want villian khelds. If it takes longer, so be it in spite of previous posters saying "you have a lvl 50 hero and epics, so you can wait!!" Well, I don't play khelds and I can still wait. There are plenty of options for me at this point, and even more so in villians that I want to try. New ATs can wait as stated previously.

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Like i said you have access to hero epics and dont really play villiasn. You stated it yourself. So of courese you can wait. This is my point. Just cause you dont like them or play them doesnt change this fact. You still have that option where after almost 2yrs villians dont even have the option.

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I don't know if this has been brought up in the thread. If it has, please forgive me.

Not too long ago, either Positron or Statesman said that datamining showed that a very large portion of the total playerbase didn't even have one level 50. That means that those of us on the boards (already a minority) with multiple 50s are not indicative of the whole. If that's the case, then I completely understand why villain EATs are one of the first things to get put on a backburner in favor of other content.

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If this is true. Maybe they should give us villians Epics and do something about what is the joke every1 calls lagville and that may change . Alot of ppl in the past have posted about not even being about to go there do to lag. Let alone how much trouble it is to get to the mission doors due to the amount of spawns at mission doors. Hero side doesnt face these obsticales as villiasn do and that probly has something to do with it. Give ppl more of a reason to hit 50 and go to lagville and the numbers will change.

Change nothing and nothing will change!

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Agreed.
I know its been forever and we're all antsy but I would want more than just an evil kheldian and if it is an evil kheldian, it needs to be way different than the Hero EATs. Over the last 3 years I've paid much attention to the devs and what they do and 9 times out of 10 they do an awesome job. I'm willing to wait for villain EATs so they can prove me right because the last thing I want is to have CoV turn into a dud because of something they rushed out.

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This is what im talking about. It only mostly hero based ppl that aresay its cool we can wait, take your time, give it to us if/when you can. WhaT do they care, they have epics already. Though they might find it fun to try a villians epic. They play mostly Heros and have access to epics already. Plz stop try to make it seem that its cool we can wait 2 1/2 yrs if even then. Its not cool. Ppl that play mostly villians cant wait, we what parity.

Before im ask how i know this guys plays heros mostly look at his sig. Ha s a link to his hero sg not villians and has 2 lvl 50 heros where he can play epics already.

Plz heros stop trying to over shadow villiasn asking for epics. We know yall can wait for them. You already have them hero side where you spend most if not all of your time. For thous of us that play villians mostly if not completly we want them and in alot of our opions cant wait and think it should be taking priority . Dont believe actually read some to the topics in CoV forums. Its loaded with ppl crying for them. Only ppl that arnt are heros with access to epics already (go figure).

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When will players be seeing epic villain archetypes?
We want to try to squeeze those in early next year, but it’s still up in the air.

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What kind of crap is that. How long do villiansactualy need to wait? 2-2 1/2 yrs just to have a maybe? Come on now. How long does it really take to come up with new Eat and have it done 'right' , as some have stated.

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Hmmm... Long enough to develop an entire issue's worth of content from scratch? Oh, and all of that content will be gated solely to people who have a level 50 character in one faction of the game. Because clearly catering to a fraction of half of the playerbase should be a top priority of the devs.

This may come as a suprise to you, but right now Issue 11 is far enough in development that the devs can't add huge new features--IE, an Epic AT--to it. If, at this very moment, someone presented an argument for villain Epic ATs so pursuasive that the entire dev team was convinced that it should be their #1 priority, they still couldn't make it happen before I12, which will come out--this sounds familiar--early next year.

But, no, you guys keep on demanding an Epic AT for CoV every freaking day, as though you expect the devs to make it from scratch and push it live in less than 24 hours. And then you get mad that nobody takes your complaints seriously--go figure!

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Well first of all, I will ask for it every day. I want the Devs, should they read this, to be reminded that is is very important to some of us. There has been talk of a villain Epic since release. If you get tired of reading of how people want the AT, then don't read the post.

This game seems to be praising balance, balance , balance all of the time. Well... those of use who play both Hero/Villain side can plainly see that it isn't balance when it comes to EAT's. And yes, it takes time. Yes, it requires a lot of material. This is understood. But phrases like the one first quoted like "try to" and "still up in the air" in the same sentence referring to something many of us look forward to is a bit frustrating. Demands are never met nicely, thus demands shouldn't be made here. However, I'm going to voice my want for the EAT villainside whenever I see an opportunity to do so in a related thread. I want it known that people want it. A Basic reply that is just as tired as the return rant you posted: Get used to it and too bad.

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I agree completely. I will continue to post about wanting villian Epic ATs every time i see the chance too. Heros had then at the year mark. I just want whats equal,fair and getting rather tired of waiting. If MUO get more attention then CoV then yea ill probly leave for it due to the complete lack Dev attention to CoV. There talking about add more hero power set but villian Epics get a "maybe early next year if we can squzee it in". What kinda of crap is that.

If CoV cant get equal development time tine, how about seperating CoV/H. Ill pay for a subscripsion for CoV and cancell my CoH subscripsion with no hastation.

As far as a previous poster say it will take as long as it take s so stuff it so to speak. I would be cool with that if the Devs. were actualy working on them and just not ready yet. that would be fine. But there not working on them and they should have been. To hear early next year maybe is crap. Villians have been screaming for them since release. We been asking for epics and PPPS get fet fix/boosted or changed but we keep get ignored. So as long as we get ignored we will post as ask when and let the Devs know how much we wait them.

As far as all the post trying to flames us or get us to shut up. Save it plz. its not gonna happen. Just cause yall have Epics (weither you like them or not) dont try to mess it up for us. We should be able to have equal content and equvilent things to yall.

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When will players be seeing epic villain archetypes?
We want to try to squeeze those in early next year, but it’s still up in the air.

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What kind of crap is that. How long do villiansactualy need to wait? 2-2 1/2 yrs just to have a maybe? Come on now. How long does it really take to come up with new Eat and have it done 'right' , as some have stated.

Out of every1 that said they can wait till there done "right". How many of them play mostly if not only hero side? How many already have access to an epic AT hero side? For thoughs of us that play only villian side sure as hell can wait . we've been waitting and getting really sick of being put on hold. I for one like many others i know are in the same boat. I have been play CoX for 33+mos now. Have no lvl 50s heros side and have NO desire to play heros ever again. Though i played since release. i have no toons past mids 30 have have deleted most to make room for villians. I do enjoy playing Villians. I have 1 lvl 50 sevral toons in the 40s and more toons in the 30s. With all the lack of content/attention CoV side gets Things do get very old. Its decesions like this is why villians have less players in general and decesions like this that dont make it appealling to get new ppl to play CoV. Yeas i know that I10 is Co-Op and is for every1 it doesn't address the issues we have been posting about at all. We still lack Content/EATS/SF/Trials/Badges/Balanced PPPs compaired to APPs. The list continues.

Though i10 might be alot of fun at first and ppl might enjoy it alot. Its only a matter of time befor the shine wears off and CoV will still be left with the same problems. Actuallly fixing some of the said things will go further longer then add new stuff. Fix what is already broken/lacking whatever you want to call it, first.