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Quote:My feeling is that the producers/writers just ran out of time and decided to go with a hand wave as an explanation for the Numbers. That very lame excuse just convinces me more.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
They were the final 6 candidates that Jacob thought would want to take the job. While he said Kate could still take over, he did cross her off for becoming a mother.
If becoming a parent disqualified one from becoming a candidate, then the Kwon's would have been disqualified as well.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed Lost and consider it the best TV series I've ever viewed. But Bad Robot Productions does have a tendency to run out of gas at the end of its productions and has a bad habit of providing answers that leave a lot to be desired. cf: Alias, MI:III, Star Trek. I'm not familiar with Felicity and Fringe, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same way. -
I prefer the "Valenzetti Solution" as a more elegant answer to the question of "what are The Numbers."
(I should note that - to me, at least - The Numbers are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. The other 354 are just integers.)
The solution of "they're just Jacob's candidates" leaves too many unanswered questions. Primarily, what's so significant about 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 compared to the other 354 integers? It can't be that they represent Jacob's final 6, because 4-Locke was not one of the final six candidates but 51-Austen was. -
Quote:I'll buy that for a dollar.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
The one counter to that is Smokey took on more and more of John Locke's personality the longer he stayed in his form.
Smokey could have been MiB's avatar for so long, he essentially became MiB.
But ... "Smokey becoming MiB" and "MiB becoming Smokey" are mutually exclusive
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rylas
I was laying in bed last night, just on the edge of falling asleep when I realized MiB was the only one to become Smokey. Based on things established by the show, it makes sense now why only he became the smoke monster. Let's look at the facts:
1. There are skeletons around the light and water at the bottom of the cavern. Based on this, we can logically conclude that being too close to the light means you're toast. It would kill a normal person.
2. Desmond resists electromagnetic anomalies. He's not a normal person. Hence his ability to remove the stone and put out the light. Sure, most experiences leave him with a big headache, sometimes a life threatening nose bleed, and a new found understanding of his life, but other than that, he's hunky-dory.
3. Jack goes into the cave while the light is out, and rekindles it before dying. And lets face it, moving a stone back to a plug hole doesn't make light. Like Springsteen said, "You can't start a fire, you can't start a fire without a spark." I believe the light in Jack (the little bit of light in every man) was what helped bring back the light. So Jack's death, in my belief, was actually from the Light, not the knife wound. After all, on the island, you bounce back from stuff like that. Yes, this might be fan-wanking, but at least I'm building it on established facts from the show.
4. MiB could not be killed by Jacob. It was by Jacob's direct actions that MiB went into the Light. Not being special like Desmond, he should have died. But since Jacob could not be the one to kill MiB, the Light had to do something different to him. Instead it turned him into the smoke monster, and it's implied imparted, him with a part of Itself.
There, 4 good facts to show why no one else became Smokey.
I don't think MiB became the Smoke Monster. I think Smokey was somehow locked in the Cave o' Light, and then when Jacob tossed MiB into the Cave, it somehow released Smokey. But we clearly saw MiB's body separately from Smokey (when Jacob placed MiB and his mother in the Adam-and-Eve cave). For whatever reason, when Smokey needed a human form, he chose MiB's - until Jacob died, then Smokey chose to use Locke's form. We also saw Locke's body separately from Smokey's. -
Quote:Now that the channel operators can set time out (to automatically remove channel members who don't log in for a set number of days) any chance we can just do away with Infinity Badges 2.0 and just go with Infinity Badges?Originally Posted by Thaumator
Infinity Badges 2.0
We have bacon, pie, and cookies.
"Prime Time" for an East Coast server such as Infinity is usually weekdays after 6pm EST, and anytime on the weekends. -
OK, so if the Sideways world was just where everybody met up to go to the afterlife ... then where the frack did David come from? Jack and Juliet never hooked up in the Real world?
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Quote:I've seen a lot of TV in my time and this has got to be the best TV series I've ever seen and definitely the best finale I've ever seen.Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Great ending. Great show. Maybe the best television series ever. I'm profoundly satisfied.
Although bittersweet and melancholy. Very bittersweet and melancholy. -
...and let the waterworks begin.
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Quote:Jack's gonna stumble out of the bamboo into the middle of the Ajira crash.Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
Uh, oh. That means the Sideways world has always been full of dead people.
Which means the Ajira flight leaving the Island (with Sawyer, Kate, etal) crashed and burned...... -
Uh, oh. That means the Sideways world has always been full of dead people.
Which means the Ajira flight leaving the Island (with Sawyer, Kate, etal) crashed and burned...... -
Wonder if this is the same church with the compass....
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Wuh oh. Is Locke and Ben gonna blow up the concert hall.....?
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Whoa. Hurley? Never saw that coming.
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Durn, we're halfway over already.
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... and then Desmond and Jack drink from the Well of the Furies......
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I'm not sure how good "We All Everybody" is gonna sound on piano....
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Lol, that scene mirrored when Locke and Jack were looking down into the Hatch at the end of Season one.
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Boone and Shannon. Snif.
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Quote:Dayumn. Sawyer and Juliet just walked right by each other without even a glance.Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
Called it! (As did everyone else)
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Called it! (As did everyone else)
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Frank's still alive!
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Juliet Carson?!?!? Who do we know named Carson? We always knew her as Juliet Burke, but Burke was her ex-husband's name. Wonder if Carson was her maiden name?
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Ricardus is still alive! FLocke is getting sloppy.....
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Vincent! Ooooh, so Rose and Bernard rescued Desmond. Never considered that they had.
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W00t! Juliet's name in the credits!
Now, I'm sure the main reason she's there is to deliver Clair's baby, but I also think she's Jack's ex-wife.