FiberOptic
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Quote:That is what I was trying to do it's been a long time since I have posted anything.Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
I wanted to leave my previous (hopefully helpful) reply on its own, hehe.
I agree and thought the same thing.
I think Fiber_Optic was attempting to do this and just messed up the quoting stuff:
That was my interpretation and theory, at least.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen View PostOriginally Posted by _eeek_
Hi, Mike, you got an interesting thread started here! I think some replies might be a little at cross-purposes, though. Here is what is coming across to me:
-You sound like a fairly new player - not brand spankin' new, but not a vet, either (and if so, welcome!)
-You are full of enthusiasm and desire to get things rolling, meet new people, and put people together. (and if so, double great!)
-You are not the sort of person to hang back, and wait for fun to happen to you. You take the initiative and create fun and friendships. (TRIPLE great!)
You really sound like your heart and your intentions are all in the right place. I think I hear you saying a bit of "but wait... I really think I'm right here! This WORKS!" You sound like you have pulled together a lot of people, and I'm guessing they're newer players who might not have any real idea where to start to meet people, and get involved. I really do wish there were maybe something established to do exactly that, and if you are able to do it, that is fabulous! Seriously, God bless ya!
So I think you might not be quite understanding some of the responses that you've been getting, and it has nothing to do with what is - or isn't - spam. What people are reacting to is that in THIS game (maybe it's fine in other games) recruiting sight unseen is bad manners. Blind invites to sg's is just something Is Not Done. If you ARE doing it, then you are immediately suspect, and thought of as either a) a goof who doesn't know better (and who wants to join an sg by someone who doesn't know what they're doing?), or b) a jerk/user/creepy guy preying on newbies. This comes from personal experiences or word of mouth about people who are just looking for prestige for their sg's, and have used nice people, and treated them like meat. And that's how you come across, using your approach. Maybe not elsewhere. But here, yes.
The vast majority of people in this particular game are the nicest people you'll ever want to meet. Just amazing people! But they are not weak, spineless nice. Well, they are superheroes!
But not only that, they are aware that they are the vast majority here, and just don't tolerate the jerks. You don't have to stop all the good stuff you're doing. Not at all! Just modify your approach in such a way that you don't come across badly.
How can you make a successful SG by randomly inviting players you know absolutely nothing about? It may not be your intention, but it certainly sends the message of someone who doesn't care about the kind of players in the SG, but only about getting as many members as possible to grind out prestige.
That's the way to go: spamming, grinding out prestige, more uncaring ceaseless spam, grind out prestige. It's SG building 101, fast track base building 101, How I built an SG base in 34 days by Howard B Jerk.
I am with Hot Mike, who has time to create a toon, start a team, chat it up, ask if anyone wants to join SG, quit team, start team, chat it up, ask if anyone wants to join SG, blah, blah, blah. Just start the spamming mills and watch the prestige roll in. I start SG's all the time and lord help any poor sucker logged in when I get a hankering for recruitment. That's the American way, high speed, high efficiency, recruitment. Like Hot Mike said leave the namby pamby chatin to Chuckles the Clown. -
Quote:I am fairly calm I used the caps mostly because Aggelakis used caps for the words.Originally Posted by DocArcus
First, calm down. You act as though because it didn't work for you then it will never work for anyone else. That is not true. For the first year of both my first and second accounts I didn't have a credit card on file. I was using time cards. They worked just fine for me most of the time. I switched to a credit card because I would have occasional troubles with it taking a time card. I got tired of having to wait a few days to get the issues worked out.
Did you try to start the game using time cards?
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Quote:1.) Time cards do show proof you can pay. You had to pay to buy it (or someone did, even if you got it as a gift). Therefore, NCsoft accepts that.Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Time cards do show proof you can pay. You had to pay to buy it (or someone did, even if you got it as a gift). Therefore, NCsoft accepts that.
What do I do? I put a retail box code in, then I put a time card code in, then it updates the account from a trial account to a retail account.
I know for a fact that the GAME CARD (not the time card) works to either create or upgrade an account, regardless of what your experience is. I have done both in the past.
I would assume the same would work for creating a new account instead of upgrading from a trial, but I don't have the slush money available to randomly create accounts just for your benefit. If you'd like to give me $20, I'll do it. Otherwise, simply, "no."
You do know that you still need a RETAIL BOX CODE in order to upgrade/create, right? Just the TIME CARD doesn't work. A GAME CARD includes a retail box code, so a GAME CARD works. A TIME CARD does not.
Of course they show proof someone can pay, I know that, NCsoft just doesn't know it so they will not accept it as proof.
2.) I know for a fact that the GAME CARD (not the time card) works to either create or upgrade an account, regardless of what your experience is. I have done both in the past.
I have seen it not work, I have seen it only work when you put in a CC number, only after that did the game show up in the account. If the game does not show up in the account you can't:
1.)add time
2.)play the game
3.)activate it
4.)use a trial account (that I have never used or tried to use)
You can do nothing. Why? Let me see... Oh yeah Ncsoft does Not recognize anything but a CC number to set up an account for COH.
Also what is with all this "upgrade/Trial Account" stuff, I repeat there was NO GAME in the account, the account was started that day. Geez let go of it.
3.) You do know that you still need a RETAIL BOX CODE in order to upgrade/create, right? Just the TIME CARD doesn't work. A GAME CARD includes a retail box code, so a GAME CARD works. A TIME CARD does not.
OMG What part ofdon't you get? He had just installed a boxed game. Used the RETAIL BOX CODE and could not get NCSoft to recognize the game UNTIL he used a CC number. THEN the game showed up in his account. THEN he was able to use his GAME TIME CARD. I am suppose to believe you, someone who has not even read the posts, rather than what happened to me and Hot Head Billy. It does not matter if you have a valid BOX CODE you have to have a CC. I rest my case.Quote:No it was not an install form the first box. It was an install from the GvE box over the first one. -
Quote:The last sentence refers to other post where I said it.Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
wow, talk about being a dick. there was no need to reply with that last sentence at all.
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Quote:I have seen Game time cards not work. $20 ones and $15 ones. I admit I have never had a Paypal account so it may work but I doubt it. I would have to see it to believe it. Just like the Time card deal, I have seen it. It will not work unless you have a CC. I know this for a fact, I have bought the time cards at best buy. You can't get NCsoft to acknowledge that you have the game until you use a CC. So using a time card cannot be done, the web site will give you "Invalid" all day long until you come up with a CC. It's just that simple it physically cannot be done.Originally Posted by Aggelakis
You don't need a credit card to activate your account, you just need some way to prove that you can continue with the account after the upgrade to retail. This includes a paypal account, a credit card, or a time card (*NOT* a retail code for a game box, *A TIME CARD* or *A GAME CARD* (which is an expanded time card).)
I have personally upgraded a trial account to a retail account with a box code and a time card.
What do you do when "use" a time card to open a "new" account? I would like to see that.
It was posted earlier in this thread, you have show you can pay. NCsoft does not view Time Cards brought at the store as proof that you can pay. You can have a stack of 100 cards it makes no difference you can't get the web site add the game to your account unless you have a CC. If you have no game in the "accounts" section you can't add time to it. It is not there, no game, no CC, no play. I stand by my comments.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Aggelakis
For future reference, the card you got with GvE isn't a time card. It's a retail code. It doesn't function the same as a time card. It doesn't count as a time card. A time card is a completely separate item.
I have experience with this problem, you have to have CC. Time cards only work after you give them a CC number. You can do nothing without a valid CC number, it's the "invalid" part of the message he got. It was saying "you have no valid CC number" too bad they don't just come out and say this, instead of leading you to believe you can start playing without a CC number. The entire page is useless except for the CC number part. All the time card BS, is just that BS, you can't successfully enter a time card code unless you first sign up with a CC, then go back and enter the time card code after you have given them a CC number.
In short: No CC number, No play No way, No how. They could eliminate confusion by using 6 words on the page (No Credit Card? Go away). -
No paragon protector anywhere. I just dropped the mission.
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How is this mission from hell completed? I have killed everything and I still can't get the info all I get is a message "you get the info yet" Well WTF!!!! am I supposed to do??? Sit there with thumb up my A** for 6 hours?? WTF DO THEY WANT!!!!!
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Thanks. I just tried to bookmark the forums and I am no longer getting a 404 error. So it's working, I thought it was one of there spiffy upgrades, since I had a hell of a time logging in.
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And this another thing why can't you subscribe to your own thread when you post it? Instead of having to reply to your own post. Plus you can't get to the forum now from a bookmark. Really good changes guys. Make it harder to get here, who thought that was a good ides?
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Where are the Carnies located? Looked all over St Martin. I don't remember ever seeing Carnies on the Villain side of CoH.
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couldn't have anything to do with the fact that someone put their's up for less than what you had your listed for. heaven forbid that that makes sense. dont list your item for the average of what you see. list it for just under the lowest price as that will usually be the next in line price that goes.
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I offered to sell item X and it sold for more than I offered it, twice during the month or so that I had it listed.
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Bubba lists kinetic weapon for 50 influence.
You list kinetic weapon for 10,000 influence.
There are only two for sale.
The Pope bids 20,000 influence for kinetic weapon. Bubba gets the sale for twice what you were asking.
That is how the bid system is intended to operate. Unless you know that there were no items listed below your price, seeing sales for more than what you're asking isn't an error at all.
Conspiracy!
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Wow, very good point, hadn't thought of that situation.
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I offered to sell item X and it sold for more than I offered it
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Kinda as if the system was designed to do just that?
Somewhere, somehow, Looks Like He Knows Something is slapping his forehead right now...
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No, it's supposed the sell the lowest priced item. When you put something up for sale at a lower price, it's because you want to sell it before the higher priced items.
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Careful and slow does not explain having something listed for weeks and seeing it sell for less than I was asking. This happen 2 times for the same item.
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Are you saying that you offered to buy something for price X, and it sold for less than X after you put the bid up?
Or are you saying that you offered to sell something for price X, and a different one sold for less than X after you put the item up?
Or are you saying that you offered to sell something for price X, and YOUR ITEM sold for less than price X?
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Ok miss spoke, this happened a while ago.
I offered to sell item X and it sold for more than I offered it, twice during the month or so that I had it listed. So I ended up just selling for a price about half of what they were going for just to get rid of it, knowing by then that the system is rigged.
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Catwhoorg
Please spare me your lectures on how I don't know what a calender is. From other threads I know your grasp of how the earth moves though the times space continuum is limited at best. I am very aware that you don't understand the function of time.
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I think this pretty well sums up what needs to be done with this poster.
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You don't disagree with Catwhoorg without the thread being locked. Been there done that, going for another round. -
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Isn't the Friends and Family program the thing that lets the devs invite their CoH-playing friends and family to beta test before the closed beta invites go out?
I remember one of the devs mentioning something along those lines way back.
What does that have to do with Wentworths?
As far as the conspiracy theories go: I've been hit by every market lag/bug/issue out there. But not recently. Why? Because I'm slow, careful, and double check EVERYTHING before I click "submit", and then wait long enough for any lag or other delays to catch up.
And if the devs really had a "friends and family" program that let people line jump, buy under asking price or whatever, why would they go to that much difficulty to implement it, instead of just giving them a temp power that spawns a magic vendor that sells everything in the game for 1? Seems to me that would be easier to code.
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Careful and slow does not explain having something listed for weeks and seeing it sell for less than I was asking. This happen 2 times for the same item.
Catwhoorg
Please spare me your lectures on how I don't know what a calender is. From other threads I know your grasp of how the earth moves though the times space continuum is limited at best. I am very aware that you don't understand the function of time. -
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opps I mentioned the friends and family program.
I feel the lock coming....
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What the heck are you talking about?
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All you people watching prices and no one noticed the friends and family program? I just watched an item sell for 190k less than my bid. And NO it wasn't done before my bid. The bid had up for some time, I sat there and watched it sell for less than I was offering right before my eyes. Wentworths has always worked this way. I have had stuff sell for more than I was selling it for. I had it listed for weeks and it sold for less than I was asking several times. I finally gave up and sold it for next to nothing to a member of the friends and family program no doubt.
So you people can do all the cute bidding in the world, the bottom line is, unless your in the friends and family program your NOT getting square deal.
This is for all who will reply that WW is great and it never happened to me: Congratulations your in the friends and family program.
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I was pointing out that making changes to MA in the patches should be done in a fully documented fashion. After all, we are also a content provider to the players now, badges and tickets are nice but the main reason why we want to publish is for other players to enjoy our work. They can't enjoy our arcs if silent changes are wonking things up.
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Wow, where are all the goof balls claiming it's all in the patch notes? When I complained about the patch notes I had the friends and family network coming out of the woodwork claiming it's all there.
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Now I understand the devs are working hard to make the system as good as it can be. I understand that there are changes that will break things as well. But for heaven's sake, can we get a decent patch notes system so that people know what the heck will be broken BEFORE we find out from the players of our arcs?
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I had a thread about this that was deleted I believe. Basically it came down to "no you can't." People were posting things that were not in the patch notes and saying they were in the notes. Yeah, these things were posted somewhere, but not on the page you go to when you click on the "patch notes" link. The real notes are buried somewhere. It's a friends and family thing, if you are one of those than you will know where to find the info. If you are not, may you have the best of luck. You'll need it. -
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FiberOptic, you must have lost your mind if you think that "anyone" here other than you would describe me as fanboi, that is comical. You need to check my post history mate.
In terms of the real issue regarding xp/inf you need to just come clean and admit that you made an error and all will be well.
Name calling and making yourself look out of touch with reality is not the way to go mate.
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I could come and say it plain as day, but that is not only not allowed, it's denied by all who are part of the friends and family program, plus a few goofy sycophants. Believe me if you are not a member of the friends and family program, and you try to use a few of the "features" of CoH often enough, and your not a sycophant fayboy, you'll find out what "not" being in the program means.
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Where does this mention you?