EvilRyu

Nice explaination of the powers. I did find one error, you got combat training assault listed twice when I think it is the combat training tactics power.

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Can you say lvl 53 hellions

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You just took my idea.

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I have to admit that your posting is the 1st I have heard about any type of porn emails/tells. Only thing I have ever seen is RMT data.

I have to admit, that if there is a group of people dipping down to porn emails/tells, then these people must be really be getting sad.

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There have been at least 2 other threads where players have also stated they have been getting pr0n in their emails too. One deleted and the other locked I think.

I am glad you made this topic because I wanted to know what you guys are going to do about all the pr0n e-mail spam we are getting now in game. I see the whole pr0n spam as being 10x worse than the RMT stuff because that could mean alot of people canceling their accounts the first time one of their kids gets one of these emails and goes to the site. If you guys are doing something about this in issue 12 you might as well discuss it now instead of waiting for it to go live that way we have something to look forward to.

Any chance a few free character transfers can be done thru vet rewards? If so then this will be the bestest feature ever.

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In all honesty I only see the problem for both sides is just pool c rares being borked.

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My experiences on the bm are leading me to a different conclusion.

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You can get the stuff either way, you just are restricted to mostly lvl 50 stuff or you gotta pay thru the nose to get it. The stuff is mostly there. I was mostly talking about the stuff in the lower ranges. I tend to buy all my procs and uniques at the lowest possible level so the toon that gets it can get more use out of it on the way to lvl 50.

In all honesty I only see the problem for both sides is just pool c rares being borked. If they had scaled the drops based on powers available in the game we would not be in this mess right now or at least it wouldnt be so bad. I do think for blue side in the early levels with the insane luck charm prices might get in check if the new zone has arcane mobs that arent too mez heavy. As for the end game salvage costs and such, I think it is reasonable now because the amount of time you put into hunting to get said salvage is almost about equal to getting the inf to pay for it at lvl 50. The only players that are truely at a disadvantage are those who play support sets such as empathy or force fields (non-masterminds). Now I do like the suggestion of a team salvage streak breaker thingie because that is definately something the teams need to keep it fair. Also I say they should up drop rates a little on teams as well.

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I have a question: why exactly is it that Energy Melee is considered to be "too powerful," as it currently is, for Scrappers? Sure, Scrappers > Tankers as far as damage output goes, but aren't Brutes and Scrappers on relatively equal footing?

So, Brutes, who deal roughly the same amount of DPS (damage per second) as Scrappers aren't over-powered when using Energy Melee? Or how about Energy Melee Stalkers, with their tremendously powerful Assassin's Strike/Stun combo that I continuously fall victim to in PVP?

I just fail to see why anyone thinks that Scrappers will be overly powerful compared to the other melee ATs with this addition, and would appreciate it highly if someone could enlighten me.

(In the meantime, I'll be curled up under my desk, sure in the knowledge that the devs have a personal grudge against me, said grudge being the sole reason that Energy Melee is not being propagated to Scrappers.)

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I've actually been curious about this myself.

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Easy answer, they hold alot of the ATs to double standards. We have asked but have never gotten a solid answer as to why stalkers couldnt get QR in regen or wp but it was so ok for brutes to get it in their version of WP when it is totally clear that endurance was one of the limiting factors in brute balance. Practically all their sets were end hogs. We were never given a reason when ask why no villain ATs could get the "real" build up power while scrappers/blasters remain the only ATs that get this when it is clear that stalkers should get this too. Just for once I would love for villains to be good at something that heroes arent good at and have it matter in pve.

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“Any Red name wanna come out and let us know if Elec/Elec tank is going to be added?” – Lady_Dee


Castle said, “No, never!” and Positron said, “Yes, do it!” In the end, the decision of which sets to give everyone bounced back and forth multiple times. The next question is, “Why did Castle say no?!” At the time, he wanted each AT to keep certain sets so they were only found on that AT – Ninjitsu for Stalkers, Elec/Elec for Brutes, Ice/Ice for Tankers, etc. Ultimately, that concept was set aside later in the process, but some aspects of it remained in the initial pass of Proliferation.

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Does this mean, 100%, ice armor/ice melee will go to brutes, scrappers,a nd stalkers? broadsword, katana, regen, SR and ninjitsu will go to tankers?

Is there ANY taboos? (I ask more about balance issues).

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The plan, so far as I know, is for all appropriate sets to be ported in one form or another. So, eventually, Melee types should have access to all the melee sets (caveat: I'm pushing for Stalkers NOT to get the Shield set, since the powers as planned don't work too well, thematically or practically), Buff/Debuff ATs should have access to the powers in all the Buff/Debuff sets (even if they look and sound slightly different in some cases!) etc.

What does this plan mean, really? Buy stock in Tylenol...I'll singlehandedly be increasing their profitability! Well, maybe not singlehandedly...I'm sure the new guys will be pulling their hair out, too!

Caveat #2: Plans are subject to change, schedules have not been drawn up yet, so this *could* not happen. This post is *not* a promise.

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I would rather stalkers not get the shield set too if you know for a fact it isnt going to work ahead of time. The last thing we stalkers need is another half [censored] powerset that flat out just doesnt work for us. All that does is get us more pissed at you and Positron for letting it even happen (points finger at Dual Blades and Willpower). I honestly feel those 2 sets were butchered for stalkers due to the way the AT plays. Personally I would have rather just not gotten it at all. I just hope whatever future fixes you got for stalkers you keep this in mind that we are hurting and hurting bad because we suck so bad on teams and the new sets dont seem to make this problem any better.

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I'm guessing the numbers behind the Psi/Mind powers will be tweaked downward to balance this set.

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Fixed that for you.

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So unless you are talking like less than defender level damage I just dont see how. Damage will suck so bad no one will want to play it anyways?

Normally I am the last person to call something overpowered but it is official the devs are truely smoking crack. Looking at what all the other blaster secondaries can do this is just flat out insane. They get a regular nuke, drain psyche and PSW, and hell I dont even want to talk about the new powers. All I can say is with all that how can anyone talk about balance whether it is pve or pvp.

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To me it looks like the villians lost some of their best sets (plant and cold) in exchange for some very poor sets (mace, axe, and earth control). To make matters worse they then added a completely new set of highly unresisted damage type to a high damage AT. Villians dont look like they will be making up much ground in the pvp when any of these come out.

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Since when has Earth been a bad set?

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The pet totally sucks [censored] even after the AI change so unless they fixing him again I wont be rolling an earth dom no time soon.

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The *ONLY* reason I see brutes getting SR is to fight 40+ Longbow, with their Sonic Grenades. It's still counter-intuitive though, it's not going to build fury as fast as a resist set.


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Whether it is resist or defense it doesnt matter, Fury is built by the tohit checks against the brute not whether or not the attacks land. So you can get attacked all day by level 1 hellions as a lvl 50 brute and not get hit and have high fury. This is so easy to test just try it.

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Please explain in a REASONABLE manner.. why/how they hate villains.

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Seriously have you ever played a villain? Even looking at this totally from a pve perspective you can see the biasness that the devs have towards villains. Heroes get the best buff villains sets. With Power Boost those sets get to be even better. Secondly look at the Patron powers vs the Epics, look at the overall design of the STF vs LRSF. One requires a balanced team to succeed easier the other requires a team heavily skewed with certain builds to succeed easier. Really to me aside from Battle Axe and Storm powers going villainside, villains were royally screwed if you cant see that then you are playing a totally different game than the rest of us.

LoL@ Elec/Elec Stalkers, Earth/Elec Doms. I can see doms killing themselves if they get chain induction and pair it with Mind or Plant.

How long before we actually get to see the power list for each set? It is nice to know what sets we get but I got the feeling it wont be just straight ports on alot of this stuff. Based on what we saw on this site, I am just going to be nice and not say anything about how I really think about this news but know this alot of villains are crying right about now.

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*goes and freezes self for one day, because suspense is killing him*

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Dont do it dude, this happened on south park and eric cartman didnt wakeup until many hundreds of years later well after the fact. So you could wake up around issue 1000 or something. Is that what you want?

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Don't worry, I had UniqueDragon memorize where I froze myself.

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That is exactly how it happened on South Park, Eric Cartman had Butters to memorize where he was but he forgot to get him and the snow covered the part where he was buried so there was no way to know for sure where he was.

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*goes and freezes self for one day, because suspense is killing him*

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Dont do it dude, this happened on south park and eric cartman didnt wakeup until many hundreds of years later well after the fact. So you could wake up around issue 1000 or something. Is that what you want?

Because it is a good back story I am willing to wait till tomorrow on this. Had they said next week, I would be calling for Dr. Brainstorm's head.

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'Come back tomorrow'?

AARGH!



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I'm saddened but not surprised to see the Hollows get further emasculated. The zone was great in its first incarnation, before the Outcasts and Trolls had their superpowers yanked. There should be places people complain are too hard. They separate the players from the poseurs.

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Man, I remember when the Outcasts had their powers at level 5. They need to get them back now that we have solo spawns. I have to admit, I'll miss the old Hollows, but it's still for the good of the game not to have a newbie zone so hard.

[/ QUOTE ]I hated that too. To me those powers were a very important part of the game for newbie players to see. For controllers and storm summoners they get to see what their hard work would pay off in the end with those pets.

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And I mean this as no offense to WW, but if you did rank what bits of info we wanted to hear about, the Hollows rework would be near last if not last. Giving us info at the rate of one per week I'm perfectly fine with. Just give us the stuff we want to know about the most first.

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You guys really need to put yourselves in the Dev's/Rep's shoes here.

How does what you're asking for make any sense at all except that it fulfills our desire for instant gratification?

No one with any sense ever doles out information meant to excite people with the best, most interesting news first. You give out the little things and work your way up to the best, most interesting stuff last, closest to the main event.

I want to know about the cool, nitty-gritty gameplay stuff too, but if I was in charge of giving out this info I would do exactly what they did here.

[/ QUOTE ]Well if that is the case then I would rather they just tell us everything at the same time if we have to get the good stuff last. All these non-essential tidbits about stuff does is just going to let us down every single week until the end. How is that fair to your customers either? Again I am not trying to take away from what WW did, it is just like everyone else has said we either want to know about the stuff we want or just hold it all to the end because the suspense is going to kill us either way.

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Woot! This is gonna rock... One question- How the heck did Coralax get into the Red River, and why? I hope we get background-missions.

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I really hope this is not all the info we are getting today.

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As I stated in an earlier thread, we are still weeks out from closed beta and more weeks out from open beta and then launch. So, expect to get something on a weekly basis from now till then. If we just dumped it all out now, well we'd be sitting around going "that's nice, but when can I play it?" So, thanks for your patience and understanding that it won't all come at once.

[/ QUOTE ]We are going to be like when can we play it anyways so I fail to see your point in this Lighthouse. At least if you did put the sets out there we could at least work on live servers to get the enhancements ready for future alts if we knew what every AT was getting.

Its nice and all but please dont tell me we waited a whole week just to hear something we already knew about? Please tell me there is more to come later today?

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Especially so now -- as I'm getting married next Spring

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Yay, gratz, Red. =^_^=b



Now update your site with Willpower and Dual Blades.



*sigh* Would be nice to get really detailed information about the powers again, what with two new sets, and a lot of alterations to how powers work (change to root times for clicks and toggles, new Defiance, different times on Trick Arrow, etc.). Oh wells, still use the site for both making new characters, as well as checking out storyarc info (for making informed decisions on how gimpy I can make my Flashback arcs for badges).

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City of Data :: Powerset Quantification now updated for Issue 11

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