El_Nino

don't care, where's the info on epic AT's?

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recovery aura > the entire thermal set

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All the endurance in the universe won't debuff that AV the way Heat Exhaustion and Melt Armor can. Just sayin'.

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thermal isn't needed to debuff. Rad, cold, dark, poison, traps, and sonic can debuff more effectively than thermals can. People don't invite thermals for debuffs, they invite them for shields/forge/mez protection and heals

I'm pretty sure while thermal will thematically be cool for controllers, it will still get dwarfed by empathy as far as overall effectiveness.

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Empathy is an emotion and the empathy set is about compassion and caring and even with one power, giving of oneself for your fellow man/woman/huge.

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Empathy is merely the ability to sense and understand emotion. Sympathy indicates compassion and caring.

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In other words: Empathy is knowing, sympathy is caring?

Anyway, Empathy on a Corruptor would be like Thermal Radiation, but less useful. And villains get enough Corruptors identifying themselves as "healers" as it is. Makes me want to ask 'em what the rest of their powers do.

As for Empathy or (worse yet) Thermal Masterminds? They'd be invulnerable, due to having Bodyguard and a PBAoE heal that doesn't require a successful to-hit check. Making that sort of thing work would require more dev time than was available for this round of Powerset Proliferation, on account of those VEATs people keep skipping over.

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Lol you can't be serious?
Claiming that thermal and empathy are the same and that if villains do get empathy it will practically be the same and that empathy will be less useful just brings me alot of lolz...

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recovery aura > the entire thermal set

Dr. Brainstorm, you're the biggest failure of a mad scientist I've ever seen in any comic book/game. You give your brutes the ability to wield maces in exchange for all the best villain sets being ported over to heroes. I hope there's a mission arc where you can be assassinated, I plan to farm it

rule #1 learned on the pwnz forums is never to click a tinyurl link, try harder

lighthouse you're my fav redname but come on, lets hear about the VEAT's :P

you're the man now dog!

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its lord recluse on the big screen/PA system that is lagging the zone down

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I wonder if power set proliferation might one day include a remote control...

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AS YOU GRASP WITH BOTH HANDS THE GLOORRRRRIOUS FUTURE OF HAVOC

its lord recluse on the big screen/PA system that is lagging the zone down

Haven't you received the memo? If you don't agree with someone, you're whining, complaining, or saying DOOOOOM

No, I'm telling you what IS going to happen. I have experience with all the powersets being ported over, the sets are not miraculously all of a sudden going to change in how they work application wise.

I've played the powersets already with the exception of the psi blaster secondary nobody really knows about yet. You act as if all the ports are some brand spanking new powersets we're getting. News flash: They're not.

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lol for your information, I play heroes also. My guess, is much like many others posting here, you spend zero time playing on the villain side. It's obvious enough that the heroes clearly got the better end of this deal, by a long shot.

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Personally, I play villain side a lot and I haven't seen this problem everyone is talking about. I have a lot of fun playing my villains. I should point out that I'm not a PvPer or a min/maxer. Is that why I'm not noticing it?

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Correct. You will see the difference in power if you do decide to step into a pvp zone, or arena in the future however.

Villains as a whole, get 9 'new' sets that villains can use. Storm can be used by 2 different AT's, but it's still one powerset ported to villains. Judging by your logic, if we add a powerpool set available (with 4 powers like all other pool powersets) to all AT's, we would be getting 44 new available powers. Sorry, but most people don't see it that way.

I highly doubt the blasters will be getting a port from the dominator psi assault set, it wouldn't make sense. Mental blast, psi scream, subdue, psi lance in a secondary? right, lol. It's not going to be a direct port from psi assault, no way considering some of the power choices will be redundant with psi blast.

lol if you think i don't know what I'm talking about. We can meet in the arena anytime buddy, care to test your game knowledge and experience in a 10 minute match?

ninjitsu scrappers would have been cool, theme wise also fits well

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Nice, you can't seem to be civil to anyone. Some advice: Leave the forums and the game for a few days. Enjoy some fresh air.

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Also I see you have no response to having your guesses proved wrong.

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So, the person who jumps at me on the offensive to start things off, says I'm not the one being civil? Try following your own advice for a change.

By the way my little comment at ball lightning was more a joke than anything to lighten the mood somewhat.

Well, it seems you guessed wrong also. You threw numerous blanket statements at villain-only players, while quoting my post (which I'd assume is responding to me). Villains received 9 new powersets, getting storm twice = 1 power. Yes, I know you're going to say 2 different AT's but I'm looking at villain power choices as a whole, and as a whole, we got less.

Masterminds also without a new primary, so nice to see that the one AT that couldn't get a direct port from the hero side wasn't the one that recieved the 'original' new set, but they were kind enough to spend that effort on blasters instead, who already have a plethora of good secondaries to choose from.

You're delusional if you think there is anything close to balance between CoH and CoV.

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First of all, don't speak to him like that. Second of all, does that make you feel like a big boy talking to him like that and calling him a fan-boy? Does that win your argument? Know what babies (real babies, not whiny game players) do when they don't get their way? First they cry... then they throw a temper tantrum and lash out. Guess you're done with the crying part...

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Just a minor correction.

<-Male.

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oh snap lightning, i bet you're choking on the listerine now

If you like certain powersets being ported over, more power to you. however i'm looking at what all AT's get, that's what pvpers do. Large part of being proficient in the arena or zone for that matter is being aware of the capabilities/holes of every powerset/AT you may run into.

With that said, BaB stated that the first powersets being ported over were going to be the ones capable of being directly ported, meaning that psi blast is 99% chance going to be identical to the defender version. All signs are pointing toward a direct port, so I don't believe anyone is jumping the gun. PvPers are stating what WILL happen if you give the set to blasters who enjoy their damage mod + build up + boost range. Good luck finding anything in pvp zones other than stealth capped stalkers, because I don't think most players will enjoy getting 2-3 shotted by emp'd psi blasters. While the 'serious pvpers' aren't the biggest group in the game, there are a lot of casual pvpers who frequent the zones and this potentially hurts them.

About your friend, well that's understandable, but we differ in our philosophies. My ingame friends I'm sure can handle themselves on an internet forum, most of them have heard much worse from the anti-PvP / anti-Freedom crowd.

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We don't know that for sure. People are jumping to conclusions. Nothing has been tested. People know what they wanted V-side, didn't get it so naturally devs hate them. Forget the fact now that they will be releasing more and this is just the beginning... oh no we didn't get it and get it now so the devs hate us. Fools. Test first, whine later.

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Yes I do know a lot of things for sure. You have to be totally clueless to see that what villains received pales in comparison to what heroes got. Play some villains before accusing someone of being a whiner. There is a difference between whining and just stating the obvious truth.

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First of all, don't speak to her like that. Second of all, does that make you feel like a big boy talking to her like that and calling her a fan-boy? Does that win your argument? Know what babies (real babies, not whiny game players) do when they don't get their way? First they cry... then they throw a temper tantrum and lash out. Guess you're done with the crying part...

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LOL who the heck are you, defender of all internet women? A little biased are we, she jumped on the offensive first. What did you expect me to give her, a welcome party? Please man, spare us the lecture.

lol for your information, I play heroes also. My guess, is much like many others posting here, you spend zero time playing on the villain side. It's obvious enough that the heroes clearly got the better end of this deal, by a long shot.

spend some time on the villain side and let me know what you think, but you probably won't. you and the rest of those city scoop are too busy being fanboys 'ohhh the devs can do no wrong', keep thinking that. lol.

For the rest, hey, I apologize for wanting balance between both factions, which would make the entire CoH/CoV game better than ever.

well at least it's obivous that you guys hate the villains now.

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I'm shocked at the number of people who have nothing better to do then come to Freedom boards and lecture it's players. If you don't play on Freedom then GTFO.

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It's a result of idiot fanboys with nothing better to do than check dev digest and follow rednames around brown nosing 24-7

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fixt

lol noob, if you weren't a moron, you'd know that the people getting frustrated with the cap have freedom as their main server. no idea why you were replying to me anyway, because i've never transfered to freedom, I've always been here.

so yeah, know what the hell you're talking about before you even try to say anything that stupid. then again, the same can apply to all you hick server jerk offs that are posting here and never play on freedom.

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That's what you guys get for choosing to live on the most populated server. I mean really what the heck were you expecting?

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