Eddy_Swan

multiple shots sounds best

some people just look to be offended. *sigh*

It takes two to argue, deebs. maybe you should read people's post's more carefully before you chime in with your half formed prejudice.

and at this point I am finished with this thread. I've said my piece and deebs has completely misread it.

dont make this so personal deebs. I have no problem with you as an artist or a person (I've never met you). I was simply stating I barely mentioned the arguments about the advertising, my biggest concern was that people were being called leeches in this thread that aren't and you cleared up that you dont think they are all leeches, so I have no problem with you and wont argue any further. you are entitled to your opinion on the advertising and I can empathize with your view on the subject.

And that's it.

that's all I wanted to hear.

Go for a long walk.

There is no way you could have warped my post further away from its original meaning. I Love the way you assume I was trying to invalidate your opinion. I was simply stating that you and suichi are friends, the same as me and gray are friends. if someone was treating suichi unfairly you would stand up and say it, the same as I have for my friends. I'm not attacking your personal liberties or your friend, I am just defending my own.

I don't know what friends list you are referring to. but if you mean the folks that I have listed in my post, not all of them are my friends I just know well enough from talking and working with them that they aren't a bunch of vipers. the people I listed in my post were folks that I felt were being generalized. I didn't see the point in adding Foo, Lady J, juggertha, Pirate cashoo etc into there as they aren't being accused of taking art for granted. but I am friends with the those artist's as well.

I am not a commissionable artist's I am a full time student who takes fan art commissions when I need financial assistance. I aspire to make art for a living, its what I have always wanted to do, but if it werent for the fact that there is this market out there I would have been forced to give up on my dream because of financial hardship. so I am very grateful for what TA and others have started because it gives artist's an opportunity to make money and learn while doing what we love to do.

we are all human beings first and foremost and we all have feelings, suichiro is right, Honesty is a good thing to have and express, but I manage to be honest and still use enough verbal finesse to avoid hurting large portions of the community. like the old saying you catch more flies with honey then vinegar so there is no need to be so bitter, especially in suichiro's case considering he's tendency to deliberately avoid sharing he's artwork here, which I don't understand, like you say in your gallery, he does great work and should show it, but I get the feeling suichiro makes concerted efforts to avoid being a part of this community as a whole and just likes to sit back and
take offense to things that have no relivence to him as he doesnt even sell he's art to folks here in mass. so the sales thread will not effect him in any way at all but yet he likes to treat it as if it were a personal attack. and then lashes out in kind by personally insulting every non artistic person who frequents the boards? from an outward perspective that is what looks like is happening. so basically he is someone who dilliberately isolates himself from the other folks here and then expects he's opinion to be the one and only truth. well it is, To him. I can see he's opinion I am able to understand and empathize with he's plight, I just fail to see why he is not able to do the same.

that last part is more direct to suichiro then I really want it to be, but it's honest. which is something I am sure he will appreciate. I don't claim it as absolute truth because I dont know him that is just what I have assertained from my observations of he's behavior. I have seen alot of proof towards suichi's big heart I am just wondering why he feels so bitterly towards everyone here? If there are reasons state them specifically so we can help you get that chip off of your shoulder, the only problem I have ever had with suchi is he's in ability to see another person's perspective.

No doubt this will be taken as an attack and warped into another bullet in the arsenal as to why I and many others are destroying this community, but I want you to at least try to see it from my perspective, I am not here to argue I am here to try and solve a problem.

when did i say you shouldn't have an opinion of your own? I simply stated that suichiro was being very general. There are alot of great people here that appreciate every single picture they are given. some of which are friends of mine, as close as you and suichiro are and they have been offended at the things mentioned in this thread and have not deserved it. I have no problem with the sale thread personally but at this point I believe the boards are better off without it purely because of the drama it has caused, but at the end of the day whether you like the idea of the thread or not you cant possibly believe TA did it to harm anyone on this forum? the man spends 20 hours plus weekly of he's time trying to organize a resource for other people and that is a good sign of humanity. for whatever inadvertent acts, he has done alot for this art community in general and I believe he only has the best intentions.

if you want to drop names go ahead. there probably are some folks take the artists for granted and I would rather them named specifically then have the entire group insulted by generalization.

that's probably why it is widely pirated

You'd be a little loopy to go with anything else. Wacom is by far the industry standard. I make do with a wacom bamboo fun. it gives you the basic feel just not as intuitive as an intuos

Software wise. I use photoshop. like juggers said it can be a ***** when you start but once you get the understanding down it becomes simple. but I've heard good things about painter I myself ocasionally use painter essential's whitch is the dumbed down version (actually comes with wacom bamboo fun pack ). some folks use gimp. and there are a slew of others I cant think of

Edit : Yeah tablets are expensive. but they do make life easier.

I'd hardly call your Sig bars lousy!

Lines are definitely no good.

I'd never think of you as a vampire Gray You are one of the most supportive and appreciative appreciators around here and a good friend as well.

lol We can always count on you wassy to make the dirty joke

lol exactly.

as an artist and art lover I agree with this %100

lol, Im curious as to how a human umbrella would work?

but yeah, As long as you remember to rub toothpaste behind your ears before you leave the house the drop bears will leave you alone. Vegemite works too I hear.