Durakken

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Venture View Post
    It is implausible that any given character would have infallible countermeasures to every single exotic means of inquiry. It's something a GM or world designer might get away with once but that's it.
    Knowing that it might be an issue and knowing that there are ways to help with I think you could create IDs that incorporate magic and tech to prevent most people from learning a hero's ID. Not 100% but pretty close to it and the FBSA would issue them as one of the concession law makers made to get hero support for the laws.

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    The real world is short on working crystal balls, too.
    So you know Madonna's or Prince's real names? I would argue even well known people aren't all that well known by real names... For example Triple H is called Triple H which is a reference to his ring name Hunter Hurst Helmsley, but his real name is Paul Levesque, but a majority of people don't recognize that name... The same can be said even more so for Hulk Hogan who if you said Terry Bolgea (or however you spell his last name) people would be utterly confused because people think that is his real name.
  2. What if the ID has some sort of psychic power and magic in it that helps prevent reveals names coming out...

    Also i would point out that while IDs are not known it is well known that in the real world we tend to keep identities relatively secret where possible to keep from retaliation on a personal level or as to allow them to become spies and such.
  3. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    Look, if you're upset that I didn't give you a problem, then a solution, then allow you to declare it obvious, so you have to resort to calling me a liar, hey, whatever makes you happy. You do what you have to do, and I get this thread to point to whenever I need to remind people how your brain works.
    I'm calling you a liar because you are a liar. If you had described a problem that I wouldn't consider obvious then I would have said as much, but you didn't Neither the "obfuscated" one nor the "real" one is non-obvious so why would I? The fact you're claiming you didn't lie when one has to differentiate between the obfuscated version and real version shows that you lied.
  4. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    The issue, for those that are curious, is that critters used to factor in how much time it would take for an attack to become available which had a range comparable to how far the critter was from your location, as a factor in whether to attack, move, or wait. Buffing recharge would change the way the critters made decisions which would not necessarily show up in QA testing, and furthermore many issues would only turn up in specific dynamic situations where players and critters were moving around in particular ways.

    The fact that there was code that told the critters to take range into consideration when deciding what to do included an algorithm that upon careful analysis was not stable. You could therefore not rely on a critter using the powers you gave it just by looking at the power definitions and checking to see if the powers recharged in a way that allowed them all to be useful. And dynamically changing recharge made things even worse, because critters could get confused by the changing values of time to recharge on their attacks.

    Although the bug was often triggered by recharge buffs, its source was the range factoring component of critter AI, something that was changed during I18 development.

    To say this was non-obvious would be an understatement. It took weeks of careful testing under a very systematic set of conditions to uncover the range-specific component of the bug, and weeks more testing to confirm that neutralizing it would greatly improve critter functionality if the code were changed, and weeks more testing to determine that a particular algorithmic replacement would be in all cases better or identical to the original if it was changed.
    I can' tell if you're leaving out something else or not, because you've shown yourself to be liar, but if that's what happened then again I say that seems like it'd something fairly obvious to me. Maybe a little less so than just the recharge part, but over all that would probably something that I'd be able to find fairly easily.

    Also it's not really good form to try to exaggerate how hard something is by people being ignorant of the checks and such that need to happen when programming a game. It's not like they find a problem and implement a solution instantly. It does take time to figure it out, propose a fix, test it, get feed back, and get approval and such for all that which takes up time. Someone who is working more independently would be able to fix it far faster in that case most likely.

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    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    Are your eyes in the same room as your fingers when you type, or do they sometimes bang out things your brain never gets a chance to audit?
    Awww you lie, admit it, and now you want to insult me. So cute.
  5. Durakken

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    Forbin,

    I was asking for an example of a non-obvious bug solution.
    She didn't provide the solution but presented it as if it were.
    She says it wasn't the solution later and that her "major part" has nothing to do with the actual solution.
    And she admits that she "obfuscated" the truth

    People who are honest and don't have malicious intent have no need for obfuscating truth.

    But there really is no point to this as regardless of what I say no one's mind will be changed unlike people like me who actually admit when they are wrong.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    Is three years that big of a difference?

    5 years between Spidey reboots. 8 years between Batman reboots.
    That's not the only reason. But it's also a matter of origin to origin reboot rather than just ending to beginning. It's been 10 years since the beginning of Spider-Man as a movie... Batman was 16 years and i still consider that too soon, but meh.
  7. Durakken

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    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    Nowhere in this thread did I lie about anything. Nowhere in this thread did I specifically say anything about the game or its functionality that wasn't the unobfuscated truth either.

    And the ultimate impossible to fake method of proving you're a cracker-jack code debugger that doesn't need to see the code to find and fix bugs is to find and fix some bugs in a program you are not allowed to see the code in, such as this game. There's lots of them to find, and the task isn't impossible because I've done it about a half dozen times. For someone that is awesome at it, this should present no problem at all.

    The problem which everyone else recognizes in this circumstance, is that its easy to make claims on the internet until you just happen to run into the one person out of a thousand that can challenge them directly and unequivocally. And then you go all in thinking everyone's bluffing, and lose your shirt to aces over kings.
    No. I asked for an example so I could see what you mean by not obvious as everyone views what is and isn't obvious as different. You decided to not give an example but rather to flat out lie, so that when I said what the solution was obvious you could come back and say "That wasn't the solution so it's not obvious" which entirely missed the point of what was being asked and thus showing why there is no point in even attempting to prove the ability to deduce things around here with people like you.

    Either you don't follow that and you are truly incompetent, or you are a liar, and not just any liar but a malicious liar. I find the former to be unlikely while the latter is ever more likely considering this is the 3rd or 4th time you've lied to try to make me look bad. I have to hand it to you in a way, because you've succeeded in making me look bad to those who don't get it, but that's hardly a feet because they already think negatively towards me.

    Oh and just to point out, even if you were telling the truth, which you weren't, you're trying to argue that since you couldn't figure out what was wrong with the data that you collected which you didn't present I couldn't figure it out and that I couldn't have or that I wouldn't have collected different data which is part of the reason that I said I'd need to play around with the program, which you did to get that data.

    So even though everything supports me in what I say I'm the wrong one. And even though you know that you lied you are still somehow claiming you told the truth. But hey whatever, Live in your fantasy world, I'll be over in reality waiting to see if anyone ever joins me ^.^
  8. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
    Yeah. You seriously keep dreaming that, man.

    I think this thread is pretty much done, now.
    it's been done for a while.

    She blatantly says she lied, noone including herself seems to realize she said she lied, and I'm the bad guy. Awesome ^.^
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arnabas View Post
    This and the fact that when the studio pays for a certain actor, they want you to see the actor, especially his face. I still think that when something is filmed right, the mask can stay on. My favourite example is way back in Return of the Jedi. When Vader is watching the Emperor torture Luke, you can "see" the agony and indecision on his face, despite his mask.
    You know that the actor who played Darth Vader was not told what was happening and was given a completely different script than what you see n screen right?



    As far as the trailer... looks better, but the original is going to haunt it in my book along with the fact it is a reboot so close to the release of the previous spidey trilogy and I'm going to say that I'm still not looking forward to it... There are still some glaring problems that one can pick up in the trailer and it feels a bit too much like Batman in some places... so while it's a massive step forward it also isn't a must see movie from just that.
  10. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Combat View Post
    See, I believe characters are defined through conflict, not through "he likes chess and does these things" (at least in movies), so I thought that Andrew was a well-defined character with powerful motives, while Matt felt like an uninspired hipster with little personality or development.
    While conflict does define character, those conflicts are meaningless without defined characters... if that makes any sense. You gotta know what they are fighting for and why and who they are as a person to really get it. When I watch the film I get what Matt and Steve were doing before the movie starts because there is a definition there... Andrew on the other hand we are left to assume that he did nothing pre-camera.

    You mentioned he was trying to escape with the camera... well that could work if he were younger... like 10-15, but he was 17 or 18 and by that time he would have picked up something to keep from going home. There is also very little development in his character as we see. He doesn't grow in crime or scale. He is just presented with a different situation which causes him to react in a different way but from a character stand point he is acting the same. The only real change is that at the end of the movie he understand that his powers can be used to purposely hurt people, where as before he did on accident but showed no remorse nor did he care.
  11. Let's just ignore that Voodoo, at least in issue #2 and 3, wears a T-shirt and jeans... and in issue #1 which everyone calls sexist the bra and panties were tasteful and made sense..

    Oh also Lina Inverse ^.^ that as far as I know she never appears in any fan service clothes.

    Of course in Mister Terrific (god what a horrible book) you have Power Girl in Jersey and nothing else which I've seen quite a few women do just to lounge around... yet I'm pretty sure people would say that's sexist v.v
  12. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    *What* sounds obvious to you? Tell me what specifically you would have checked as one of the top 5 things you would have checked. Because as it turns out, recharge itself wasn't actually the problem. Range was.

    Yes, a problem Castle mitigated by making pets immune to recharge buffs ultimately was a problem with range.

    Mu hu ha ha ha ha...



    As to whether its possible I'm just making this up, well, I proposed the code fix to Television to address the problem after extensive testing of the problem with pohsyb, so its not like I'm aware of this one second hand.
    Oh gee, now I'm really embarrassed... Arcanaville lies and thinks she's proving her point but really just shows exactly what I'm talking about the accuracy of confirming or deconfirming the ability to deduce things. Yup fine job you did ther Arcana. You just keep those lies a rolling and eventually someone other than me will call you on it.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad View Post
    But we DON'T all look like that. Because we can't look like that. Even if our genetics were perfect and we trained every day of our lives we couldn't get that physique. That's what makes a superheroic physique a 'power fantasy'. It's also a huge factor as to why comic art evolved in the direction it did - when the unattainable became more common place (ie, the builds from the sixties can and are replicated by gym rats of today) the bar on unattainable had to be raised.

    As for the second paragraph... well, that's certainly an interesting glimpse into your psyche. I've never once been rescued or felt helpless in my own imagination, and never once been more concerned with empathizing with the victims in a comic than putting myself in the place of the hero saving the day. Ever. If I read Superman and daydream, I *AM* Superman.
    Wrong wrong wrong...

    The reason men and women look like that in comics today is because of 2 reasons. Carnival attire and Bad artists. Nothing more nothing less. You also assume that men would want to look "rippling" when most people have looked at that and agree it looks disgusting. Of course then we're not talking about rippling muscles as hyperbole likes to creep up on you we're talking about looking healthy and what people who don't sit around all day call normal... and yes, even if you exercise all day, by the standards that our species grew up in we sit around all day.


    As for your assumption it is not my psyche at play here, but rather the origin of the concepts. Superman was not created as a guy that is superpowerful that I wish I was, but a protector to children and Green Lantern is a friggin space cop... the very notion of which is someone there to look out for you. Same thing goes for Batman even though he's the one I would call pretty much pure power fantasy, even he is not really about you seeing yourself as him or having the fantasy of being him, but rather having the fantasy that there is someone out there to protect you and that is looking out for the good rather than some greedy motivation.

    Iconic Comic Heroes almost all have their origin in being protectors and servants of the people, not as I wish I was this. There are very few that i can come up with off of the top of my head that I would consider both well known and power fantasies... and of the ones that comes to mind right off the bat are all marvel ones... there is Captain Marvel that is a power fantasy.
  14. But it's not a "power fantasy" it's a "hey i'd really like to look good because that propagates my genes and be healthy because that means i live longer and can protect them and propagate more" reality.

    Further more power fantasy is looking in the wrong direction. There are a few, but most of the most notable ones are not... like Superman and Green Lantern. They are not me seeing myself in them, but rather more of a helplessness fantasy where i'm the one being saved not the one doing the saving.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad View Post
    Sure it is. Absolutely absurd.

    But... no matter how sexualized or ludicrous Namor's costumes are we DO all know all men would jump at the chance to be built like him.

    I guarantee that if you polled a group of 1000 men from ages 14 to 30 with the question 'If someone could give you a six pack of abs with the snap of their fingers, would you take it?' - you'd get a thousand 'yes' answers. (I'm sure I'd get a few 'no' answers from here, but 1) I'd be skeptical and 2) I would love to hear 'why not')

    Like I said, it's not purely for the ladies. It's about dominance. It's the heart of competitive and entertainment sports - the deep seated psychological need to strive, to compete, to be BETTER than other men.
    That is ridiculous. That's like asking "Would you like a million dollars?" There are no negatives except for the lose of a niche group of women that don't like people in good shape or in the case of money the lose of being poor and some experiences that come along with that.

    There are only 2 types of people on earth that they would say no to that. Those who asked well would i be healthier or worse and the person granted the wish would say that they'd be worse... and if the person felt that the purposed change made them look worse. Why? Because no matter who you are you want to be good looking and/or healthy. There are other possible benefits to that but that never comes into it.
  16. Durakken

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    Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
    Everyone notice how Durakken has changed his tune?

    When Arcanaville gives an example of a subtle bug and what the fix was, he was all, that solution was obvious to me. When he's never seen the code.

    But when it's suggested that other actual subtle CoH bugs that have been fixed be mentioned so mr "I'm fairly awesome at figuring out where bugs are even if they don't make much sense for most" can demonstrate how awesome he actually is by telling us what he thinks was done to fix the problems, he now wants to impose conditions that don't exist in real life and furthermore insults Arcanaville's and the dev's honesty and competence by implying that there is no one in the community that can be trusted.
    So you expect me to come up with a solution to a bug that exists in a non-extant program? I don't think asking that the program exists is all that much of a "restriction". Likewise the asking to be allowed to play it rather than just relying on there is a problem at all is asking for the same conditions as the proposed "You can't guess the problems in this game from playing it" argument.

    And the last "restriction" is really the crux of the whole thing. It's guess work of guess work and then trying to rely on someone else to do what your thinking. So you're also guessing on what they're thinking and hoping that their skill level is the same or better than yours in both programming and deduction.

    And Why would i ever be naive enough to believe that someone challenging me on this would be honest? It's apparent why I wouldn't and apparent why it can't be discussed by me, but you go right ahead and continue talking as if I don't have a valid reason to believe such a thing. Also I'm not talking about the devs and never have I once said the devs are dishonest in CoH, as far as I know. Unless they are running around on accounts or in other games I've played.
  17. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
    Translation: Your ability to spot the "obvious" requires 20/20 hindsight.
    No.

    let's say someone actually wanted to test this...

    Well first we'd need some code that isn't purposefully obfuscated. Secondly, I'd need to be allowed to play with the program. then I'd make a guess and then they'd have to figure out based on what i would have said in general and use it to locate and fix the problem.

    In other words... it requires someone that is honest and competent and the likely hood of someone being that when it comes to "testing" me from this community is about as low as you can possibly get.
  18. If you want to talk about this I'm more than willing to take it up in PM, but please stop in this thread...
  19. Durakken

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    Hyperstrike,
    Yes those kids did take part in escapism as is talked about in a few documentaries. They didn't just snap and that was a lot less than what Andrew had to deal with. Columbine happened after the escapism didn't work and peer pressure and other various factors.


    As far as your sub-discussion of sociopathy/psychopathy is way off base. It is a physical medical condition that is a result of babies not being held and touched (not in that way pervs!) The lack of physical contact causes a portion of the brain to not develop which controls sympathy/empathy... Others becomes more a concept that isn't associated with actual others...

    So to discuss teenagers as if they have this medical condition shows a complete misunderstanding as the actions of teens more often comes from the opposite of Sociopathic behavior as they focus on the other rather than have no concept of it.
  20. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
    Not buying it for a second. In my personal experience the only times I've seen seen people say something like that is when they knew they were doing exactly what they were claiming not to have done.

    Giving you the benefit of doubt at best you are assuming it would have been obvious to you.

    It would be nice if we could test your self proclaimed powers of deduction by listing a few issues and letting you tell us what you think is the problem and then compare that to the actual cause of the problem.
    You can believe what you want, but you should consider the environment.


    Any way to display deductive abilities would require more than what anyone would be willing to do on either side and even if I wanted to show that I do work that way I wouldn't for second care to do it in this community because I don't believe for a second the people that would even remotely want "proof" would be honest and it wouldn't solve anything either way.
  21. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    I'll just say that you've had a VERY sheltered upbringing then and compliment your parents on their skill.
    Hyperstrike read the entire post. I explain why it isn't realistic for the kid to act like that. The kid literally has no mental escape and that is not realistic. People who are in those situations build mental defenses and escape into something else and because the character is never shown doing that it is not realistic.

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    Originally Posted by Rylas View Post
    Yeah, because the nerdy, picked-on, socially awkward kid becoming the hero isn't a cliché of its own...

    [See also:] Kick A**, Spider Man, Goonies, Gen-13, Harry Potter, The Never Ending Story, and the crap-ton of movies, books and comics that have been widely popular in geek culture.

    If you came away with popular = good as the message, that's your own problem. Not the fault of the movie.
    I know, which is why I mentioned that no matter which way they went they'd generate some message or cliche.
  22. Durakken

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    Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
    Nice. Trying to premptively cast aspersions on anyone calling you on what you did after reading her response.

    Shame on you.
    No. I am preemptively saying that what she or others might think is not what I'm saying as it can come off that way and re-affirming that I'd consider it one of the obvious things to look at. When someone says it isn't obvious I take that they're talking about one of those odd bugs that once you exhaust every possible thing that it could be on the surface, looking at the data and code, you still haven't figured it out and the solution ends up not having to do with any of the parts that you could point to but some part that is several times removed like say the problem isn't in the new code itself, but in some other piece of code that interacts with the same code that your working with that is triggered by a tertiary piece of code within the new code so that when the tertiary call and the secondary call somehow create the bug by way of messing with the same memory space and producing a result that is different than one would expect.

    and this is where I point out that this is why you can not come up with something that is not obvious to you, because what I'm describing, the bug becomes obvious as to where it's from. Something is not obvious only when you don't know what is causing it and everything you can think of from the data presented isn't the solution. This is also why "obvious" is subjective...

    So basically I'm saying that what Arcana is calling not-obvious, to me, is fairly still within the obvious range, though maybe not the first try.
  23. Durakken

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    Why would you think this was nearly impossible for me to do? I can think of lots of examples, because I have practical experience to draw upon.
    Din't mean yourself in specific, meant it in general more referring to me...should have used myself but whatever...

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    For example, both prior to and during I14 beta - aka Architect beta - I did *a lot* of testing of critter behavior. Lots of things struck me as weird, but a long standing issue that was generally known for a long time was the fact that critters did not always use all of their attacks. This was most troubling when it came to mastermind pets. Sometimes you'd upgrade a pet with an attack only to discover it never used it, ever.

    Turns out a major part of the problem was recharge buffs, but that was a very non-obvious bug. There's no logical reason to expect that improving the recharge of powers would make a critter not use certain ones. The *obvious* logical thought process was this: since the critter's attacks were recharging faster, it might end up using the same attacks over and over at the expense of other attacks. But it often happened that the critter stood around and did nothing when recharge buffed, even if it attacked just fine when not recharge buffed.

    That was a very non-obvious bug, and it took a lot of very careful testing to figure out what was ultimately happening.
    That sounds fairly obvious to me... not the first thing you'd think of, but something that if you looked at all the things that are similar between the mobs and whats happening you'd pick up on it almost instantly as to where the problem is coming from...though you might say that i'm just saying it's obvious to piss you off or seeing it as obvious in retrospect, but i'd say given what i know that'd be one of the top 5 or 10 things i'd likely try to check.
  24. Durakken

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    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    You want an example of a bug fix to a subtle bug so you can declare if you would have thought it was obvious or not?

    Um, nice try.

    The best way to demonstrate the skill of being able to identify and suggest corrections for bugs in code without having to see or review the entire codebase would be to do it. Its possible. I have about a half-dozen of those. But I genuinely doubt there are more than a handful of people capable of actually doing that.
    No. You're saying the fixes have not been obvious. You expect me to imagine a way for something to be "not obvious" which is nearly impossible to do for yourself but you're asking me to imagine what you find "not obvious" which since I don't know what you find obvious or not is an impossibility given the current situation. The only way to remedy such a situation is to show examples of a solution you think is not obvious which I know you can't do so we're left at going nowhere with that argument.
  25. Durakken

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    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    TPN seems to be having one of these now. Start guessing.
    That's an example of the bug... it's not an example of where the fix is which is the thing in question which is your point.