Dior_xx

SRM, i'd like to see who ever does this solo 6 man spawn in 6-7 minutes please.

Ok carnifax i'll make sure to remember that in my more polished version

I didnt say you cant farm with that build but is slower compared to other builds for the same cash thats what i am saying (assuming people of equal skill play both builds)

Before family got nerfed i did the family farm in 10-11 minutes 6 man spawn solo, not exactly slow is it now TG?

See you don't know much about what you're talking about as my fire/kins build IS for farmers, and everyone who read it managed to figure that out, not that the tital gave it away.

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Anyone get the feeling he read about the powers on the enhancement screen whilst he was being power lvled to 50?
1 damage in the hold????
Also his fire/kin build has classic "FARMER" written all over it,obviously if he fought more bosses he would slot out his hold,siphon power,etc.
Explains how he got all his recipes too.
My advice is to actually "PLAY" a char to lvl 50 by actually teaming,trying content,doing TF,fighting AV,etc and then come back and write a few guides.
Until then wait for the PHARM forum to appear on here.

PS This post is directed to the original poster

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A) ITS SHE
B) useless post, if you don't have anything NICE to say or constructive leave it out freak.
C) i posted my EXPIREINCE and thoughst with Ice and Kinetics.
D) I SAID that my fire/kins BUILD WAS FOR FARMING, as the tital said.

Yep i hope so, i will post a new one, the updated one sometime on the weekend, and will hope to get the thumbs up from you guys ^^

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I completely disagree with you on that one, MANY PEOPLE who don't know this set THINK that Flash freeze is a stun, and therfore are dissapointed once they realise its a sleep, as they don't read on to find out its a sleep before they take the power, however how is someone taking SuperJump gonna think its a fly?!?!

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Nowhere in the power description does it say it's a stun. The power says: "Ranged (Targeted AoE), Minor DMG(Cold/Lethal), Foe Sleep". It's not like all controller primaries have an AoE stun anyway, so why should people expect Flash Freeze to be one??? I was being somewhat facetious about SJ and Fly since they are both travel powers, right? (just like stuns and sleeps are both mezzes)

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I do understand what you're saying but i don't see why if i included what i said in my build its SUCH A HORRIFICLY bad thing to do?

Fair enough, but meh i'm not that keen on leadership set for a farming fire/kin IF you want TG you can come on defiant for abit and lemme show you the way i get down with the farming ^^

But you can get them in weave! :P

How you meen?

Tainted greek you said: Wouldnt take siphon power

(sorry quote button recently not working at all for me )

And your other option over siphon power would be fire cage??

67% smashing lethal res and really good recharge plus perma stacked 3x siphon speed cant go wrong with that.

My main point was for +Rech, not extra resistant, and when u say really good recharge, HOW good recharge do u have with "your improved build?".. i already have 3x siphon speed stacked.. perma, and tbh i've never gone wrong with my build ^^ but i was interested to see yours and so i have but i dont get why you get manouvers if its worse then weave for defense?

I have a pici of one of the emails not posting up here, just incase of "naming and shaming" so if u wanna add me on msn to see feel free

At first it was funny, the first one i got, now its getting quite pethatic, first one was from a toon called <removed> i think thats how he spelt it saying "your mum iz on toast" then got repeated ones quite similair from different toon names? marked as spam.. but i'm just wondering if its anyone from forums lol joke is over, getting quite annoying.. (toon that i got these emails on is Dior)

The way i would look at it is fire/fire tanker better then brute for taking damage, fire/fire brute, better then tanker at dishing out damage

Grav Storm it is then i will actually start leveling it up to lvl 6ish before monday as i know that monday i wont be able to join you but deffo the next one coming, reason being as i'm taking up a night shift instead, so i don't work during the day, have my best friends brothers bar mitzvah.

Saying that if you take a sleep power you might be surprised that it's not a stun is like saying you'll be disappointed if you take SJ and find out you cannot fly...


I completely disagree with you on that one, MANY PEOPLE who don't know this set THINK that Flash freeze is a stun, and therfore are dissapointed once they realise its a sleep, as they don't read on to find out its a sleep before they take the power, however how is someone taking SuperJump gonna think its a fly?!?!

So you see everyone whos tried fixing my post made their own mistakes, thanks for the constructive critism it IS my first build, and my original guide that was saved i couldn't find so had to re write this of the top of my head, non the less i've recognised my mistakes, and next time if i make some sort of guide i'll be more carefull, thanks.

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2) Like arctic air easy and cheap purple set that gives a nice +4 recovery and +10% recharge
However if you pick up this power think its the equivilant of flashfire or stalgmites, you're in for a surprise, as the foes put to sleep will wake if attacked.
Recharge:Slow


Damage:Minor
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Why would you think it's a stun, if it's a sleep???

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This tells me that: not only can the above guide be misinterpreted through its wording, but also that people can read things wrong, even when it is worded fairly well to a careful reader.

I would of suggested that Dior isn't saying it's a stun. It's just that sleeps are unlike stuns. Attacks can break a sleep but not a disorient. Exactly what i ment

Dior's starting of a guide here for constructive criticism before the guide section is probably the most sensible way. Especially as some of it was lost and had to be rewritten. I don't see it as a guide for Ice with any secondary or as a guide for Kin with any primary and so people only need to know what matters. The build can be intentionally meant to play a certain way and therefore only certain powers matter. Great effort.

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Btw monday's i'm usually working untill about 7:30 ish, so i might be late

Np i was about to post i would like to change to a grav/storm troller

Gratz how many 50's they got now?

Too tired to keep going...

Please do.

And why is this "in conflict" with Ice Slick???
I was talkign if you plan on laying ice slick while using this power, that would be rather daft and pointless..

Why would you think it's a stun, if it's a sleep???

Many people at first hand think this.

What??? I guess you mean "can" be attacked?
I ment YOU cannot be attacked

It's not a hold, it's an immob. And it's not incompatible with taking Ice Slick, you just don't use them on the same group at once...
Lol i havn't had coffee so didn't notice the little mistake.. and it IS incompatible with ice slik if you plan on using them on same group, and tbh from what I'VE seen most people either chose the knockdown or immob

if you pick up this power think its the equivilant of flashfire or stalgmites, you're in for a surprise, as the foes put to sleep will wake if attacked.

Why would you think its a stun if its a sleep?
Remember this guide is for people who don't know much about the ice or kin set, so maybe they no much about stone or fire, and think that this is a stun set. sheesh talk about scrutinizing every word