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Wow, I was expecting to have to do this when I got home tonight... Good work, DeProgrammer!
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Quote:That sounds like a bug to me, and when Street Justice goes live, if it remains at only 25%, I'll be /bug'ing it.Originally Posted by Ultimus
Ok no one has mentioned the other part of the post:
Some of the attacks are only enhanced 25% by Fiery Embrace
My question is why? EVERY other powerset in the game gets a 45% increase when effected by Fiery Embrace even Energy Transfer which is the single hardest hitting melee attack in the game outside of Assassin Strike.
I would never expect Fiery Embrace to reflect the combo damage here, since the combo damage is a bonus secondary effect of the set's mechanics. Fiery Embrace doesn't affect critical hit damage or Dual Blades' combo damage, either (at least, not last I checked), so precedence says it shouldn't effect this.Quote:Not to mention the combo attacks also only effect the level 0 damage for fiery embrace not the current level which is basically a 10-15% nerf there as well. -
Quote:Same reason that we don't release before an Issue is live or a patch on test has gone live: because we get paid based on the number of tears you shed. Really, it's because (a) we never know if the patch that hits live is going to be the same as the patch on beta/test and that would mean making an extra Mids release if the numbers get changed, and (b) we do our work by the grace of Black Pebble and the Devs, and so we purposefully limit ourselves in certain ways... one of which is that we don't go and fish data from powers that aren't actually available yet (otherwise, Street Justice isn't the only thing that might show up in Mids).Originally Posted by Vanden
So you wanna make me wait until it's actually Live before I can plan a build? Make me wait the interminable period between when StJ is available and when you update before I can properly plan my build? Why would you put me through that?
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Quote:Ask the Devs, not us. :POriginally Posted by Vanden
Still no Street Justice? WHAT IS THE POINT
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Kudos to DeProgrammer for doing this while I'm away; I felt bad releasing a buggy version, even if that was the only way to get one out on time.
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Quote:GuyPerfect needs to update Sentinel to match the Mids db.Originally Posted by Feycat
Anyone else having an issue between Sentinel and Mids uploading builds? I went to go copy my two /Time corruptors to Mids and thought I could save some time by just uploading them with Sentinel, but it didn't work - all I got was Fly chosen at level 4 and no other powers or slots picked.
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I just replaced the file on the server with one that fixes this bug (and the Blaster Dark Blast Aim and Soul Drain bugs). So redownload and install and you should have your Kheldians!
And now I'm off to Oxford and London. See you guys later! -
People can report bugs here or over in the Titan Forums (the link in my sig). Either DeProgrammer will do them while I'm away, or I'll get them when I come back. Hopefully, Street Justice will be out around then and I can give you guys an update with it.
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Quote:Weird. How is that power slotted?Originally Posted by Machariel
<3
Couple things -
I'm told that some of the APP powers for Dominators are showing the incorrect damage - something about them being based off of the Controller version which has containment built into it.
Also, when I hover over a power, some of the enhancement numbers are not being displayed.
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Quote:Close.Originally Posted by Psychoti
I'm continually trying to update Mids today. I know he said 'Monday'... but is that 'Monday' in Israel? If so, he's ahead of me by a few hours.... so just maybe... maybe...
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(I'm told exclamation marks are necessary for release announcements)
Not too long after I21, we've updated Mids to give you some of the great new features of City of Heroes: Freedom! Due to the fact that I'm going on vacation for two weeks, we've pushed this out even though it only has partial support for some features (Enhancement Boosters) and a few minor bugs (like the icons for the new powersets being wonky).
Mids' Hero/Villain Designer v1.950
Mids Hero/Villain Designer 1.950 - September 2011*
New features:- Added ability for power pools to contain more than 4 powers.
- Added partial support for relative levels to IOs: setting your relative level through the menu applies to them, and using + and keys while the enhancement picker is open will modify them. You will see the enhancement value change in the display in the lower lefthand corner, and once an IO is chosen, mousing over it will display Invention Level +x. Builds currently do not save relative IO level.
- Added support for Delayed, Disintegrate, and Accelerated
- Added support for max movement speed modifiers
Fixes & changes- Fixed bug causing Keep on Top in the Totals window to change colors in some cases even though it still had Keep on Top chosen.
- Removed notices about City Traveler, due to them no longer being necessary (woohoo!)
Known Issues- Windows Vista and Windows 7 have issues with the updater due to UAC interfering with writing to the Program Files folder. Many of these problems can be resolved by (a) installing as Administrator, (b) running Mids as Administrator, or (c) installing Mids to a different location than the Program Files folder.
- Icons for Time Manipulation and Beam Rifle are formatted weirdly
- Mousing over the 5th power in a pool when it is placed invalidly gives incorrect message
- Relative IO level is not saved as part of a build.
- Some Patron epics do not properly check prerequisites on their powers
- Diminishing Returns for PvP mode have not yet been added, all buffs currently show their full, unmodified values.
- The Power Graphs for the current build do not display effects for pseudo-pet powers like Ice Storm. This does not affect the Powerset Comparison, which is now fully aware of pseudo-pets.
- Power Boost affects some powers that should ignore its buffs, such as Ice Shields.
- Temporary and Accolade powers are not being affected by buffs such as recharge rate.
- Alignment and, consequentially, Accolade powers will not load from saved builds.
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Quote:Yeah, that I actually remember (thanks for that!). Whether or not that got me in to the subsequent ones, I don't know.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
For the Incarnate pre-Beta, they asked those of us already in to submit suggested names for others to join in. I happened to slip in the names of all the Titan family programmers and mods (among others).
It was quite selfish: I wanted the latest version of Mid's to be come out with the Issue release, and I wanted to give other Wiki folk the chance to have a head start chronicling the game development.
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Quote:You people are crazy.Originally Posted by Psion1
my level 50 Ice/Time Controller
I've talked to Posi and Avatea at PAXEast this year, and they were pretty appreciative. It was cool to hear Posi tell me that he'd walk through the office and see Mids on a bunch of people's screens at once. Technically, I've been hooked up once with a costume code through Avatea and Tony at Titan, and I can't help but consider if my inclusion in the recent betas hasn't been as a result of my position as Mids' developer (this hasn't been confirmed, though). I certainly wouldn't mind more recognition, but my wife says my head swells too easily so that might not be a good idea. :PQuote:If you guys don't already have high paying technical development jobs, it would be a crying shame if you didn't at least get some new offers. Count me as one who believes Paragon Studios should purchase Mid's or pay you some type of royalty fee for keeping so many of their subscribers around. At this point, even a public acknowledgement would be good.
I mean really, no B.S.- I think in many ways Mid's saved this game and added another end-game activity that is one of the greatest mind and number crunching puzzles one could play attached to an MMO. And I say 'play' because it HAS become part of the meta-game that is City of Heroes.
All the 'Cow/Free Milk' analogies aside- if Paragon/Cryptic has never emailed you guys personally or hooked you up somehow, I'd say they really need to check on their priorities and get their junk straight. I know I'm much more cut throat personally- if I developed Mid's I'd be charging for the download, or selling it to the game developers for big time money to use as an add-on or in-game interface addition.
Just saying- we all appreciate what you guys do, and you definitely should get credit and opportunities where they are deserved.
If we want to talk seriously about authorizing us as an official build planner and so forth, there's a lot to say there. Sure, it would be nice to be hired on to work fulltime on the game, but (a) it'd have to be full-time, and (b) I'd have to telecommute, since I live in Israel and not to eager to return to the US' receding economy and expensive healthcare. Furthermore, there is something to be said for our veracity and trustworthiness in the fact that unlike the devs, we don't answer to Black Pebble*. *waits a moment in case of lightning* We're only beholden to our idealism, and you don't have to look at our products and wonder whether or not we're holding something back because of PR or marketing.
*= Not actually true. We remain in his good graces, and thus he looks like the other way while GuyPerfect builds things like Sentinel. Thank you, Black Pebble!
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Quote:Oh, right, the levels on the epics...Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Travel powers at level 4, 5th power in travel pools, level 35 access to Ancillary Power Pools, significant changes to Poison and Energy Aura... Quite a bit has changed.
And just wait until we get those three extra enhancement slots at 25/27/29... People are gonna need them some Mids' for that!
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Quote:Have there been enough changes with I21 that people need a new Mids DB to respec (besides the new powersets, of course!)?Originally Posted by KemLi
Since i21 hit, many of my friends and I have had a running gag regarding, who might have seen any news about the new Mids going up , primarily because we're all addicted at this point =D. Heck, most of us haven't even begun respeccing yet, as we're waiting.
Great, now I have guilt!Quote:Originally Posted by Liz Bathory
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Quote:They'd have to hire me full time, and I doubt that'd be worth it to them. Like with ArcanaVille, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? :P Especially expensive cows who are already well-paid developers.Originally Posted by Vinceq1980
So yeah +1 to the mids junkie count here, honestly I was even more "excited" to see a beta issue 21 mids than i was when all the issue 21 open beta info was being released. Hopefully the devs can get some serious cash now that COH is F2P and hire you guys because honestly MIDS should be part of this game. end of story. Invention system for the new players WITHOUT mids is a RECIPE for disaster.
Yea-no. My QA volunteers and the Titan guys have been giving great feedback, and DeProgrammer and I are very quickly going through this. Don't expect anything before the weekend, though. My personal deadline is next Monday and I'm going to do my damnedest to see it released by then.Quote:Originally Posted by Biowraith
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It seems that every time they decide they need to add a themed weapon to some new content or pack, they go with Broadsword (and thus Dual Blades). I agree that this is getting ridiculous.
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Update: My first test version went up for use internally, but it's still fairly buggy. We want Mids to be out as much as you guys do (and that's pretty serious, given how many emails and PMs I've been getting the past few days), so keep your shorts on. It'll be ready when it's ready... and I'm going to do my damnedest to make certain that it's ready by September 28th, because that's when I go on vacation to London and Oxford for 9 days and won't be able to do any work on it.
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Quote:Man, it would be nice if you atleast got the base damage values right.Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU
Just to enlight people asking about damage and to close some common misconceptions:
Blaster:
Base 125 - Max 562,5 (Defiance is hard to quatifie but its somewhere close to 10%)
Scrapper:
Base 125 - Max 562,5 (Almost 10% more with criticals because minions doesnt matter)
Corruptor:
Base 75 - Max 375 (Close to 17% overall on big targets)
Controller:
Base 55 - Max 220 (Double if Containment)
Defender:
Base 65 - Max 260
Mastermind:
Base 55 - Max 220
(Melee Pet is 100 base to 400 Max but this only applies to tier 8 pet. Other pets gets very lower damage scale due to lower level)
Tanker:
Base 80 - Max 320
Brute:
Base 75 - Max 581,25
Dominator:
Base 105 - Max 420 (Melee attack is very slightly lower, Domination doesnt affect damage anymore)
Kheldian:
Human Base 85 - Max 340
Nova Base 120 - Max 480
Dwarf Base 100 - Max 400
VEAT:
Base 100 - Max 400
Stalker:
Base 100 - Max 500 (Roughly 10% more with critical, 30ish in a full team with noone ******* around. AS doesnt affect overall damage in any meaningfull way)
Blasters are only 1.125, not 1.25, and that's for ranged only. Their melee is just 1.0. Scrappers, likewise, are only 1.125 (melee only, but that doesn't matter since their ranged powers use the melee modifiers because they cheat). Dominators you have backwards: they are 1.05 for melee and 0.95 for ranged.
One of the things that this doesn't do is handle the difference between +Damage (Defiance, Fury) and base damage increases (Scourge, Crits) very well.
Finally, finally, the base damage modifiers are indicators, to an extent, but hardly the determiners for what ATs do what damage; the powers available are the big issue. For example, Dominators have higher melee modifiers than Blasters or Stalkers, but you'd be hard pressed to make any argument that they do more melee damage than either of those ATs (/Devices not withstanding), and this is simply because Stalkers have complete melee chains and AS, and Blasters have as many melee heavy hitters as Doms (sometimes more). -
Quote:Then the onus is on you to give a valid explanation as to why Blasters consistently underperform in the Dev metrics, given the fact that we're using Dev metrics to balance the game. Nobody is saying that it's impossible to make a Blaster do crazy things; we're saying that it requires a greater amount of effort, skill, and investment than it would on other ATs.Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
See, the thing is that I enjoy "powergaming" too. In fact it's the main thing I do in this game. So quoting one of the people who are saying "well you can't criticize blasters because they're having fun!" to prove the weakness of blasters is rather disingenuous. You are relying on their assumption that blasters do in fact have a performance deficit to assert that blasters do in fact have a performance deficit. I'm here to tell you that they do not, and I can and do prove it each time I smash the crap out of some impossible thing with my blaster. I'm not the only one, either.
Funnily enough, my first 50 was an Energy/Energy Blaster who I still have and he's a recharge build because it's fun. My current main, a 50 DM/SD Brute, is built for defense and recharge (and does so well that I actually feel ill about how powerful he is). This is part of the reason that I am bothered by Blaster underperformance: where is it written that in order to do fun things or build to concept, I must play an inferior build?Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
As to what the best build is, I care in a for-fun hypothetical sense, but I rarely play such builds. In fact, my money-is-no-object blaster build that cost umpteen billions to put together isn't even a ranged-capped build. Its an energy blaster build for recharge. The min/maxers out there know how silly that actually is given energy's DPA distribution, but I didn't build it for performance reasons. I built it because I ran the infinite freem mission, and fell in love with cycling power bolt and power blast really really fast. -
Quote:The Devs have regularly stated that powersets in non-Incarnate play is balanced around SOs. If they want to change that decision, then they can and I'll change the basis for my argument (at which point, I've got a whole can of worms to open up about how the ubiquity of defense set bonuses provides an unfair disadvantage to playing Fiery Aura, Electric Armor, and Dark Amor, over other other sets).Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
"IOs are irrelevant to whether blasters are under-performing in the late game" is a comical statement. Where do most people use IOs? The late game. Where in the game does pretty much everyone have IOs as it stands on the live servers today? The late game. In fact, it's really only on the forums that I see people advocating SO usage at all. You can pretend that the game is balanced around them but you're not talking about the same game that the rest of us are anymore.
You know, now that I've said that, maybe that gets at the problem in this thread, in a way. The anti blaster crowd will grumpily acknowledge that things like IOs and incarnate powers exist, but their expectation of performance is based on the exclusion of any player advantages that have been added in the past twelve issues. In that sense, ignoring the fact that there are myriad ways to alleviate whatever setbacks blasters may encounter in frequently elegant ways, blasters are weaker. Of course, so is everyone else - scrappers only have as much defense as comes with their secondary, nobody has any recharge bonuses, and...
Why do I get this weird feeling of déjà écrit as I type that?
In any case, feel free to dwell in the pre-IO world of the ancient past, but know that nobody else does in practice. Even if you refuse to use IOs, you cannot avoid benefiting from teammates who don't share your eccentricity. I don't see how you could even argue that this will be an issue when the free players arrive, which I'm not sure anyone has done yet, since the free players will of course be crap at the game regardless of their AT, as everyone is the first time they play.
That's not what I said. We are talking general Blaster performance here. Fire/EM Blasters, for example, outperform most other blasters - putting them up on a pedestal and declaring that Blasters are okay because of Fire/EM is completely disingenuous. For years, Stalkers were seriously underperforming but Energy Melee was so good that it didn't matter and so it was very hard to deal with Stalker performance; similarly, there are a couple powers that Blasters have available that muddy the water and I'm pointing out that unless you can guarantee that every Blaster will have those powers, you can't use them as a baseline for Blaster performance. Drain Psyche is a perma-able power that can provide you with infinite endurance and extreme levels of regeneration - by all balance arguments, it's incredibly overpowered. Blaze has the highest DPA of any single target power available to players period (more than double that of any power in Rad or Energy).Quote:Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
Oh and please don't think I didn't notice this bit - "Blasters suck, except the ones that don't! It's unfair to bring up that combination because it is an effective counterexample to our arguments."
Basically this.Quote:Originally Posted by Shubbie
First of all blasters are bad at a specific point, between 30-50 and incarnate early to mid-late till you dump multiple billion influence.
Since this point is about 80%+ of most players playtime, thats a problem.
The blaster secondary's are the MAJOR reason why blasters underperform, and MM is better than most, but lets be honest compared to the weakest corruptor.. you still underperform
Just saying well blasters are great and can blow through anything in the game before 30 does NOT in any way prove blasters dont have a problem
ALso saying blasters are fine post mutlipurple does not prove blasters dont have a problem
80% or so of most players playtime is between these two points.
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Quote:Level 34 is when Blasters start to fall behind, but still haven't. More mezzing mobs start to show up, but you're fighting lots of Freakshow and whatnot at this level, not Carnies and Malta.Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
I made a new blaster because I didn't have anything else I could use to take advantage of double exp. Rad/MM, 34 at the moment. This thread hadn't even crossed my mind until I saw it again just now but once again, it is to laugh. I'm not even up to 25% defense yet and already I can do outrageous things that I sincerely doubt most other ATs will be doing at this level.
Soloing on x8? Nope, not going to happen until my build is complete, yet tanking spawns for a full task force is trivial with just the inspirations that drop. Tanking them and leaving them half dead and debuffed for the rest of the team to sweep in and mop up, that is. Sometimes they don't even get a crack at the minions! Ha!
Really the only way I could call the character weak is if the only thing I care about is solo performance, and this is during the supposed weakest level range. Here's why soloing doesn't bother me - if I want to run x8 tips, all I have to do is invite one or two lowbies. That alone provides more than enough cover to get away with unfettered blasting with a half finished build that will cost maybe 1.5 billion when it's done if I'm impatient. When it is done, I plan to be 2x8 farming-ready. Superfluous indeed.
Mental Manipulation is a massive exception because of Drain Psyche. That power alone provides so much that you simply cannot find in any other Blaster secondary. Rad/MM is pretty widely recognized as being a very good combination (the fact that your T3 blast has a guaranteed stun provides you a serious edge over, say, Energy or Electric).
Balance generally doesn't account for IOs. Of course you can build an immensely survivable Blaster when you've dumped 20%+ defense into him. You can do that with anybody. It simply isn't relevant to the question of whether Blasters are underperforming in the late game. -
Quote:The biggest problem Blasters face is the way player damage scales compared to mob hit points after 30. It is the only source of damage mitigation that gets worse as you go up in levels (personal defenses and debuffs remain stable, controls actually get better due to higher durations), and given that this is explicitly the primary Blaster method of damage mitigation, helps explain why they are their strongest in the 20s-30s.Originally Posted by MutantX_7
While I experience the same thing as you do, I however enjoy that the blaster reaches its most powerful in the 30s (or earlier). I HATE having to wait until lvl 32 to get my most damaging attack on a scrapper (perhaps this is why I like claws, you get your two best attacks, focus and spin, before lvl 20).
I like having my ST and AoE chains before lvl 20 on my blasters. I use the rest of the time to slot IOs and to build myself a better character. My latest blaster a DP/MM was soft capped to S/L at lvl 45 because i had all my bonuses and powers in place once I got frozen armor, if I had made him after sideswitching, he'd have been s/l capped at lvl 42 when I could slot Scorpion Shield.
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Quote:Originally Posted by pomo
There was nothing remotely concrete about her example...
As amazing as she is there was no way her BLASTER was on a LRSF back when it was actually challenging...Uh, guys? Reading comprehension ftl?Quote:Originally Posted by seebs
I was gonna laugh at this, but it just clicked: SF were villain-only until I18, weren't they.
Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Quote:I call mine a VEAT.Originally Posted by Starflier
I generally go with Blanker for my ranged Inv/SS tanker.