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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
    Ah, I thought they were following the book's format.

    I've been wanting to do a Dateline-style genre picture for quite some time, using interviews and crime scene photos the way they do. The problem is getting just the right mix and choosing the right monster. Zombies, aliens and vampires are overdone (and vamps probably wouldn't show up on camera) and werewolves ends up coming across like one of those lame Monster Hunter shows.
    For a tv show, that would work. But when you want people to pay a decent sum to see a movie in a theater, you want some immediacy to the flick.

    In a way, they are following the events in the book, but rather than what amounts to sitting around a campfire, they are having the chronicler in the action. So long as they get the Battle of Yonkers and Rahj-Singh done correctly, I'll be happy. Besides, having to "set-up" the flashbacks wastes valuable zombie-shootin' time.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
    Have you ever seen those shows on 20/20 and Dateline where they interview people after a particularly horrendous crime? They do a brilliant job of building suspense and throwing in twists even though you already "know" what happened. The trick is to leave just a little bit back, then drop a whammy in there for a reversal.

    Constructed correctly, WWZ could pull that same trick off admirably.
    The thing about zombie movies is that you never know who is going to make it or who is going to die. Doing the flashback route, it removes the urgency of the situation and that mentioned nature. With the flashbacks, the zompocalypse is done. It's over. It's people mopping up, reminiscing, and trying to get some semblence of society back. Instead, they've opted for the more immediate and visceral impact of the zompocalypse as it's happening, rather than after-the-fact and the people having time to reflect.
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    Originally Posted by Cass_ View Post
    Given the script, there really aren't.
    You really want to watch a movie that has no sense of danger for the main characters since the book takes the form of flashbacks, as the reporter/chronicler just goes around talking to people about what happened? You know the people that he's talking to survived, so no real threat to them. Besides, the book takes place after the zompocalypse, rather than in it, which is what the movie is about.
  4. World War Z to open at the end of December, 2012. Read one thing saying it was opening on the 21st. Could be worse things to be doing that watching WWZ when the world goes kaflooey, I guess...

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    Originally Posted by Rock_Crag View Post
    I have a food replicator in my attic, big deal.
    I have a food replicator sitting out in a storage building. All it takes is a few months to work. I put in one bit, and later on, 30 or more bits pop out.
  6. Dark One

    Eureka no more

    You can bet Sanctuary and Haven are up on the chopping block as well. Since Eureka and W13 are set in the same universe, it's pretty likely that W13 will go as well.

    After all, gotta make room for more reality shows about "psychics", wrestling, and the vehicles for d-list, washed up actors.
  7. My guess is on a well-endowed female cosplaying as a more attractive Emma Frost than what was seen in First Class. Castle will invariably be dating her.
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    Originally Posted by Suspicious_Pkg View Post
    They could have at least put a red shirt on him and have him be killed immediately after saying that.
    That would've made more sense had it been a Revolutionary War reenactment (with say, Washington's Flash or something) and that guy being a British soldier.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Organicide View Post
    Every increase in food production our culture makes has been met by an increase in human population. It's a terribly simple concept. The two are linked absolutley. People don't subsist on pixie dust and magic beans. Even if growth in the industrailized world has slowed, it's booming else where on the planet. The issues you discuss at the start of your post don't' help matters but they're not the root cause. Solve food production and you solve over-population.
    And yet pixie dust is precisely what massive numbers of Africans are subsisting on...

    You are also presuming that one culture is equivalent to another culture. Newsflash...they aren't the same. It appears nothing is going to reach you on this matter. You are closed to any and all arguments. A shame. And you still haven't answered the question on why if America produces so much food, this country isn't busting at the seams like India and China.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Organicide View Post
    If they aren't getting the food from the 1st world in the 3rd world, how is it population rates there continue to grow generation after generation? The fact of the matter is that we do ship our surplus food over seas. Does it all get parceled out in an egalitarian manner. I doubt it as well. None the less, it's artificially propping up a human population that couldn't be sustained there otherwise. So when a famine does take place in said 3rd world region (it's happening right now in Ethopia...surprise) the people there get hit hard. These aren't the rantings of some crank. This is how it works. My belief is we need to try another, less futile way that prevents this kind of prolonged suffering.
    It couldn't possibly be tied into the illiteracy of the populace, coupled with the overly high infant mortality rates, coupled with religious leanings that condemn birth control usage, combined with the constant warfare of the region and the lower overall life expectency?

    The amount of food shipped over there does not even come close to explaining their overpopulation/unsustainable growth. If it did, there would be multiple times as much food shipped there as is consumed in industrialized nations. But there isn't that much food being shifted to them. Ergo, it is something OTHER than food production that explains their overpopulation.

    Africa as a whole has over 3x as many people as the U.S. Do you think they are receiving 3x as much food?

    Edit - As for your chart, turn off World and turn on China, India, and United States. You might be a little shocked at what you see.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Organicide View Post
    If you would've read prior to posting you would've seen that we've been over Industrialized birth rates ad nausem and it's been shown that the 1st worlds birth rate decline DOES NOT cancel out the robust 3rd world birth rate increase. The net result is an increase in the global population, not a decrease. This was my point the entire time. Please read through the posts before you start your crusade.
    Food production in one area is not causative of a population growth in another area. Especially when said food production is on an entirely different continent from the population growth and when there is an extremely limited infrastructure to distribute said food to said populace. You're ignoring the fact that the population growth in the food production place is completely opposite of your stated position.
  12. Homina homina homina how wah! To the Ariel in Album 3 and the Dark Pheonix & blonde in the thighhighs/skirt/halter-type top in Album 4.
  13. Alphas was pretty good. I think Gary is probably the most interesting one of the bunch. It appears as if Alphas is also taking place in the same universe as Eureka and W13, given Lindsay Wagner's appearance next week, though it remains to be seen if it's the same character.

    Carter's reaction to being on the floating medicine ball was hilarious. But dang if SciFi isn't a bit too loose with the spoilers. They basically showed that the gang knows something's up with Ally. Also, "Someone put her in front of a cartoon!".

    W13 was a bit contrived. Leaving an artifact just sitting out like that without a bag? Seems to be not the smartest thing to do.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Organicide View Post
    Dark,

    Calling Richard Dawkin's work a "navel gazing book" is a glaring misnomer. He's arguably one of the formost ethologists and evolutionary biologist of our time. I suppose if you have a beef with his work, that'll have be bewteen you two. Your mention that it makes us more destructive than other species when I pointed out that other species are prone to wasteful behavior as well makes me think you're not reading all I've posted. Again, I think you're mistaking our culture with our speices. Two distinct things. As for the NTY article, if proves Richard Dawkin's point. What you're seeing in that event is the letter of the law (of limited competition). What you failed to mention was human encroachment as a leading factor in the chimps motives for seeking new territory. I go on to say that I never mentioned that pre-agricultural tribes were complete angels. Only that they had in place a culture that was sustainable for the continuation of our species. Tribalism works well for human beings as a whole. Any anthropologist who studies these societies would echo this.
    Wasteful behavior is a bit of an underplay, especially when one considers the possibility of human role in the extinction of the megafauna. Wasteful is not using every part of the animal to some purpose. Driving entire herds off cliffs is just a touch more than "wasteful".

    It directly contradicts your previous assertation of not purposely seeking out rival tribes to eliminate them in the gain for resources. When that is exactly what those chimps did. The ones listed in that article were in a park, namely a place where human encroachment is not reducing or eliminating their food supply.

    Tribalism is the exact opposite of something that works well for engendering your law of limited competition. It's evident in everything from nations down to high school cliques.

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    The meme that human beings are inherently evil or seperate from the rest of the natural world is absured. There is no evidence that I've seen, read or heard about that would place humans in this light.
    We do what we need to do to survive. Inside each and every one of us are the genes of murderers and thieves. By our definition, "evil". By the definition of those ancestors, "what it took to survive".

    We have taken ourselves out of the chain of the natural world. We are no longer truly subject to natural evolutionary forces. Look at how many people are alive that wouldn't otherwise be (myself included). We keep deleterious genes in play (cancer-prone, those with poor eyesight, etc) that end up making for a weaker species. We counter the natural forces that would otherwise remove those genes. We are no longer natural creatures beholden to natural forces.
  15. Sure it makes us more destructive. Killing far more than what you need for survival is part and parcel of being overly destructive.

    You're using an argument from a navel gazing book to reinforce your point? Come on man. There is a reason to hunt down and eliminate other tribes, namely the fact that in the future, your own progeny would then have less competition for the resources available. You must be unaware that animals like chimps do wage war on neighboring groups for resources. It's not something that is limited to humans. And said warfare is also practiced by the hunter/gatherer tribes that you seem to hold in high regard. This pretty much directly contradicts your second paragraph.
  16. Except for the fact that people were destructive long before we got agriculture. Are you familiar with the method of hunting known sometimes as pit hunting or possibly cliff hunting? It was a method where herds of animals were forced off cliffs to fall to their deaths or herded into a pit to be speared/bludgeoned/etc. Far more meat than the hunters could eat. When the food in an area ran out, they'd move on to the next. Hopefully, the land would have enough left to recover and regenerate when the human migration came back to that area.

    Humans have not abided by the laws of nature forever. We've always sought ways around it. Since the first monkey took up a rock and bashed in the head of either his neighbor or an animal, we've been altering the status quo. If we were abiding by nature, we wouldn't have worn the first pelts around our bodies to keep warm in places we wouldn't normally occupy at specific time frames. We wouldn't fill gourds with water so that we could travel farther. Hell, even setting the first broken leg was working against nature.

    Space is our future. If only to prevent catastrophic events wiping out the species as a whole. All your eggs in one basket is not just for chickens.

    Edit - We're only here now having this discussion because our ancestors were the survivors. Surviving means that sometimes you have to do things that were destructive and downright ugly.
  17. When you say that increased food production means increased population, are you not taking into account the possibility of the other way around? Once they learned agriculture, it became necessary to produce more people to do the work required to produce enough yields that a family could make a legitimate living farming (as well as having the capability to house them). Once we got the industrial revolution, it was not necessary for a family to have 12 children to work the fields. Humans, as well as most animals, will breed regardless of whether or not there is the food to support them. If you overpopulate, there'll be a die off either due to food shortage or increased disease factor.

    It's a chicken and egg scenario. And you are basically absolving those populations of the results of their actions and heaping guilt for it all on the industrialized nations.

    Look at the birth rates. Also, you might want to take a look at things like the Graying of Europe and Japan.

    Pretty much every industrialized nation is on the low end of the totem pole. Meanwhile, the nations that have a less than industrialized nature have absurdly high BRs. And why is that? Because we've accepted that there are reasonable methods to allow us the enjoyment of the act, but without superstitious nonsense.

    Well...not all of us, there's still a good number that prefer to keep their heads in the sand.

    As to killing off species...while the loss of biodiversity is a bad thing, there is something people need to realize. It's believe that around 99% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. We have the capability to affect extinction, both positively and negatively. But let's be honest here, extinction is not a new thing and while one species dies off, another (or several) can rise up in time to take its place. Look up something called the Permian Extinction. It'll be an eye opener.
  18. It's not the food causing more people to appear. It's humans natural desire to reproduce (and the nature of sex) coupled with an unwillingness, either through ignorance, religious indoctrination, or poverty, to afford legitimate and effective means of birth control that would allow one to engage in the act but without the consequences. Include the factor that larger families mean that one can work more land, presumably, in less than technologically advanced societies, and thus in theory earn more money.

    Look at America in the early years in the places that relied on manual labor to produce stuff. Lots of big families. Sure, not every person in that family survived, but more mouths meant more hands in the field. Now, however, we have sufficient technological advancements in the developed parts of the world that we don't need those large families to produce adequate sustenance.

    It's not excessive food production causing population growth, it's population growth on the presumption that they'll be able to grow enough food to survive. If it was excessive food, you'd see the developed countries with far more children per couple than the undeveloped nations. But that's not what we see.

    Space colonization can bring in new resources that we don't have now or new sources of stuff we do have but are running low on/easily accessible stocks of. Be it new plants with medical potential (if we find an M-class planet), new ores and minerals, or simply more places to grow food/textiles/wood/etc.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ebon3 View Post
    I see, personally, I would have used any number of domestic "bridge to nowhere" projects myself (although the entirety of some never to be named foreign efforts certainly come under that catagory), but your point stands.

    I'm also in agreement with you, funding NASA certainly has better long term consequneces than say the Gravina Island Bridge project.
    Why did I use the air conditioning comparison? Because it's something that people would immediately understand. It's not some boondoggle project in the middle of nowhere that no one's ever heard of before and can be chalked up to government being government.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CBeet View Post
    Surprised there's no cosplay as Harley Quinn.. But.. This is like fathoming spaghetti junction.

    The girl who plays the fictional daughter of the character Castle has cosplayed as her fictional father's actor's old character.

    ..Ow my brain.
    Even better...

    The girl who plays the fictional daughter of the character Castle has cosplayed as the character that her fictional father cosplayed as on the show that happens to be said fictional father's actor's old character. Since Castle dressed up as Mal on the actual show.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zikar View Post
    I think it's more of a criticism on how underfunded NASA is than on the amount of money spent on soldier's air con.
    Exactly.

    It wasn't a criticism of providing aid to our soldiery. It was rather a statement on the the balance of funding that the government doles out, i.e. an entire department's yearly budget vs just one portion of war-footing for two wars that'll never actually end. As well as a statement to those who believe that NASA gets obscene amounts of money.

    I've talked to some people that believe NASA gets around 50% of total available federal funds. Not a joke. And they act surprised when they find out it's like 0.5% (and continually dropping).
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    Maybe not humanity as we know it today (GOD! I hope not!). But, some (hopefully) recognizable offshoot of **** Sapiens Sapiens. Presumably better for the passing of a few billion years. And hopefully not the product of a dysgenic society (a'la Idiocracy).
    If we are still limited to this planet at that time point, regardless of species status, then we will have failed.

    Miserably.

    An entire universe of wonders to behold. And where are we? Deadended on one rock that is eventually going to be nothing more than a cinder circling a moldering star corpse. A corpse that'll continue to shine for 10^32 years before it too finally truly dies.

    In 6 billion years, there would be nothing there, presumably, that would even be recognizable as once having been H. sapiens. Just thing of that time frame. In 500 million years, this planet's life has went from simple little insects crawling around the ocean floor to the multitudes of species present. By the time the sun bloats up, 12 times as much time will have passed since the trilobites came on the scene.
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    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    While, on the whole, we're a net-negative impact on our world and could use a serious die-out to alleviate population pressure and run a skimmer through the gene pool, there are some good things about humanity that I'd like to survive.
    A good zombie apocalypse would fit the bill quite nicely.

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    4-6 billion years (about what this section of the solar system has left, barring some sort of disaster) seems like a REALLY long time, I'd rather we get our act together NOW, in the next century or two.
    Anyone who thinks humanity is going to be around in 4-6 billion years needs their head examined (especially if they think we are still going to be on this planet). Nothing lasts forever and our species won't be any different. All things die. Eventually, the last H. sapiens will be gone. We may have descendent species, say H. superior or the like, but what we are now is just a blip on the cosmic radar and a small snapshot in time. Since we've pretty much eliminated natural selection, it'll be artificial evolution down the line.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    If I create something working some 9-5 job, then patent it, it belongs to me.
    Well...that depends. If you work on it during company time and/or use company resources to develop it, then they can get a share (or the whole thing depending upon what company policy is) if they can prove you did it on their dime.
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    Originally Posted by Rodion View Post
    If this case actually involved Jack Kirby that would be one thing. But he's been gone for 17 years, and much of the work involved was from 50 or more years ago. If he were still alive today and was in dire need of cash for a pacemaker and Marvel was telling him to go hang, the case would be much more compelling.
    Exactly. I feel for him, personally, if he truly got shafted. But how much of the current characters personas are directly traceable to him?

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    Copyrights were originally tied to the life of the creator. Not to some deathless corporation or bickering heirs wanting to steal a piece of their father's immortality. Most of Kirby's work would be in the public domain by now if giant corporations hadn't convinced Congress to change the law in their favor.
    No, copyright (in this country) was originally for 14 years with a single extension of 14 years. It was the Berne Convention, iirc, that extended it to Life of Author + 50 years at minimum. THEN it was, again iirc, Sonny Bono that got it extended yet again in the States. Now, it's basically assumed that things like Mickey Mouse, Superman, The White Album, etc., will never be allowed to fall into the Public Domain.

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    The copyright and patent system is terribly broken, and should be fixed before it completely stifles innovation in this country, as endless lawsuits crush anyone with an ounce of creativity (especially in the software industry).
    Yes, it is. If a creator/owner can be assured of profit (nevermind that it's copyright, not profitright) for his life plus the life of his grandchildren from a single work, he has no incentive to produce more works.

    Patent reform could be done as simply as stating that if you are not producing anything, or in good faith working towards producing something, you cannot sue simply because you bought a patent. That would eliminate the vast majority of patent trolls.