Dark One

Doesn't matter what the "intent" was.

An Administrator said that talking about Connect 4 is not allowed nor the strategies therein. Despite how vastly little talking about Connect 4 would impinge on CoH.

Didn't even realize that.

That means no D&D talk, no WH40k talk (but the books are still ok /facepalm), no LARPing talk, no tic-tac-toe strategies, nothing that could ever be construed as a "game". I imagine hopscotch and jump roping would be verboten as well, since, "game" and all.

The more you limit the topics of conversation, the less reason people have to visit. The less reason they ahve to visit, the less reason they have to give NCSoft money. Though I suppose that less bandwidth used for the forums means less overall bill which might mean a .00005% stock increase for the shareholders.

But hey, win for them right? It just cost a community a lot of people.

That's what grandparents are for!

Never saw it.

What do you consider "competing" products? By the logic used herein, ANY game, be it PnP or digital is "competing".

This rule is an idiotic change that, I'm betting, was handed down by suits who had ZERO idea of what this community consisted of. It cannot be denied that we lost a LOT of people after this change. So instead of saving money/making money, you LOST money on it. Money lost for no good reason at all.

This game survived for 6 years with us discussing other games. Were the suits really that afraid that it was going to die because *gasp* someone mentioned Arkham Asylum or that we wanted to get together on XBL and play something? And that doesn't even touch on the asinine nature of the rule, namely that every aspect of a character can be discussed except for that one subset where they exist in interactive digital space.

There were a lot of people that had pretty much stopped playing the actual game here and were paying simply for access to the forums so that we could talk to each other without overbearing rules on us. Political & religious discussions? Ya, that's an acceptable rule. No nudey pics? Same. Can even deal with the "<x> is hawt" threads being gone, even though I don't like that change.

Halloxmas? Where witches sing "Oh Halloxmas Tree"? And Frankenstein's monster punches holes through your wall to leave tidings of candy corn and wooden trains? Wooden trains, I might add, that were crafted by werewolves who wore green pants and dingle-bell slippers. The halls are decked with mummy wrappers and the tree topper is a little ghost.

I'm going with a connection to the metronome.

Au contraire...

Game of Thrones is being adapted into a comic book. First issue was released in Sept. being published by Dynamite Entertainment.



And this is exactly why that rule about tv shows was lifted. So that there was no Six Degrees of Separation games being played. But I still find it funny that every aspect of say, Batman, from merchandise to comics to movies to cartoons can be discussed, but that one aspect can't exist.

Population density of 10.5 per sq. mile. With 30% of our population concentrated in three cities (closer to 50% if you count the metro areas of those three). Ya...we ain't the most populous State in the Country.

Because Chuck is just that awesome. Constant references to pretty much anything out of pop culture, comics, movies, and other fictional universes. Chuck touches on pretty much everything that could be considered heroic and villainy.

If by 'chrismas in july', you mean attractive women in red and white bikinis, then I approve.

Otherwise, snow cones are the only thing reminiscent of winter that I want to see in July.

There are two comic book stores about an hour away (one way drive). I think there's a grand total of about 3 in the State.

See above.

Stores that are poorly lit tend to have not-the-greatest organizational schemes. Wading through pile after pile of unshelved and unsorted books is not all that enjoyable.

When the choice is that or nothing? My State has a total population of around 800k. We had 1 Borders (to be replaced by that Books-a-million thing) and have 1 B&N that I know of. Some of the smaller towns managed a Walden Books or a small indie. If those towns are lucky, they have an indie.

What would be an alternative in a State with, at most, small, poorly-lit and run used book stores now that Borders & Walden are gone? Sure, I can go to Wal-mart or K-mart and buy the latest Twilight book or browse through their self-help books, but if I want to go to a real store where I can find a Calvin & Hobbes collection or a WH40k book, I'm SOL.

They may not be a "true" monopoly, but they may act as an effective monopoly.

The other major chain, Borders, is now out of business. The other mall-based major bookstore, Walden Books, is also out of business. Meaning that B&N is the, iirc, last major book chain in business. There may be others, but I can't recall any of them in my state (can't speak for any others).

There's a difference between "early" and "having to see/hear this stuff for an ever-increasing amount of time every year". Before we know it, it'll be, "Only 364.9 more shopping days till Christmas!".

And it's not simply a matter of getting it done early, it also means that the stores will be playing that music and that holiday spice or whatever its called stench (that causes my forehead to break out and makes me want to vomit) is applied liberally to every conceivable surface.

Other games don't exist. That's the fiction that we've had to live under the last year. Of course, that fiction also drove away a lot of folks that used to frequent this forum.

It's funny considering there used to be a massive CO thread that had rednames posting in it. Along with rednames in the Gamertag exchange thread.

The guards are offering service instead of goods in exchange. They are the first into it whenever crap hits the fan, which given that they are surrounded by carnivores and the Sixers, appears to happen more often than not. I think giving them food in exchange for the potential of them getting eaten to protect me is a fair trade. Same goes for the docs. Like they said, they are learning from the mistakes of the past and starting over.

One thing I just realized...why were those corpses still in one piece after a night in the jungle? One would think they'd be little more than skeletons after a night of being dead out in that wilderness.

Yes, it is. You have yet to field any real argument as to why a closed environment needs money when all they have to do is barter and eliminate all the middlemen.

You are trying to apply current needs and worldview to a world that is completely divorced from said viewpoint.


Versus what? Making the iphone? Doing something I hate so that I can get money? You are also forgetting that those pizzas can be stored, since they apparently have refrigeration technology. Maybe not indefinitely, but long enough. You wouldn't even have to trade the finished product, you could trade the individual pieces of the pizza.

Money, at its heart, represents time. We trade our time for those pieces of paper so that we can trade an abstract (time) for other things.

The backing is the faith that people are willing to accept that paper to settle debts. Without that faith, they are nothing more than cloth and ink.

And what are they going to "spend" their money on? They aren't paying taxes, as far as I can see. Their homes were provided to them. There seems to be little coming in from 2149 that isn't absolute necessities, if anything at all other than pilgrims. And unless money is constantly being pumped into the system so that the workers have something to "buy" things with (which has the downside of inflation), you'll eventually end up with a majority of the wealth in the hands of a minority. Look at the phenomena of "company stores" sometime.

Or you'll get people handing the same dollar back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Which to an outside observer is utter lunacy.

If anything, digital currency is worth even less in their world than paper or metal. Paper & metal at least have secondary, more realistic uses. And what are you going to do, set up a bank? Joy. That brings in people that have little truly useful skills other than pushing paper around. They aren't contributing to the community and doing nothing more than taking up space.

And what is the practicality of money in a closed environment? Human society there is limited to one city (and presumably research outposts) wherein everyone contributes to the functioning of the city. Trading bits of otherwise useless metal or paper around in such an environment doesn't make sense. They aren't travelling merchants going around to other cities where it's easier to take a stack of coins than a bushel of apples.

An iphone 4's component cost is less than $200. At least according to people that have taken them apart and as reported by Business Week.

A pizza's cost can be kept relatively low due to the amount of automated work and scale that goes into agricultural practices. However, in the place of Terra Nova, they have limited farming land, limited capabilities to farm the land they have, and a set number of mouths to feed everyday.

I place a value of $0 on an iPhone as I could give a **** about it. It has no value to me. However, that tomato that I grew? That I spent months tending the plant, pulling the weeds, getting the land ready, patrolling for pests? Far more valuable than a gadget that is of little real use in their place.

Much like how the merchant scoffed at Wangst's offer of the music disc. To him, that disc had a value of $0.

Or, you could trade me the 100 pizzas straight up for it and then I can use those pizzas to trade for whatever I need or want. Cutting out the pointless middleman of currency in their closed environment.

You also seem to forget that currency needs some form of backing to have any meaning. As well as needing minters/printers and some method of preventing people from just making their own counterfeit currency.

And what is of more value in Terra Nova's placement? A pizza that in that environment is far more of a luxury than playing some cheap little app. It's not really like someone can come to Nova and just bum around. Money is (or should be) meaningless in such a place.