CriticalKat
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I have been trying to for a while now on my second account and its not working. Unless there is some other definition of manually besides just regular means of joining a channel?
Quote:Originally Posted by XxBudweiser8xX
you can still join Champions United as well, you just have to do so manually. -
Scores have been updated. Next weeks fight schedule posted as well. Of course as always it is only if no other teams join before monday night.
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Wow! Very familiar name, welcome back!
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This is one of those threads that is too easy and thus absolutely no fun to troll.
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Thank you for catching my blond moment.
Fixt.
Quote:Originally Posted by Neuronia
I may be missing something but wins are 4 points, times 3 is 12?
dUmb 9 + 8 +8 + 8 + 12 + 12=57
Exile 9 + 7 +8 + 10 + 10 + 12=56
STA 9 +3 + 8 + 8 + 12 + 12=56
0utcazt 9 + 3 +10 + 8 + 8 + 12 =54
Arts & Crafts 6 + 8 + 12 +10 + 8 + 8 =50
Easy Kills 6 + 9+ 6 + 8 +6 +8 =43
16 points would be for 4 wins right?
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Ok I went ahead and posted the fight schedule. Of course if any teams join tomorrow before midnight I will edit it.
This Saturday marks the halfway point for the season, all teams will have fought at least once. I will eliminate the 2 retired teams from the schedule so there won't be any bye weeks unless others drop. We all know that no one likes to have weeks of no pvp. :-) -
Ok scores have been updated.
Now on to answer some questions in regards to the retired teams Broken Chains and GDHRT.
When a team retires themselves from the event the team facing them that week must show up for fight night just in case the other team changed their minds. Once a team actually misses their first fight night then I officially retire them. From that point on all teams scheduled against them for the remainder of the season do not have to show up on fight night. Just enjoy your free points.
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Yeah hard to fight with only 2 people competitively so completely understandable.
Quote:Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu
GDHRT officially withdraws from the league. -
I plan on being there however I have been dealing with some pretty major RL crap the past few days so no guarantees. I really want to see this match so I will do my best though.
Quote:Originally Posted by Neuronia
I don't know, hopefully Kat will be there or we can just rope someone into it. Arts & Crafts is gonna die, devs please make nukes good again in PvP.
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If the ladder's main reason for crumbling on test was due to the inconsistent copy tool then I can't see how any one could possibly still think that is the best option for organized pvp. Not like that was the first time a ladder crumbled on test due to the pvp community not having access to it when needed.
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o.0 That almost sounded like a compliment. Me a *****? Never that.
4 years clean on the nicotine thankfully. I am blonde, not dense. No comment on the calmness of our pvp community.
Quote:Originally Posted by Ra_Ra
Kat maybe dense, sounds like she smokes too much and bitchy at times but she's a nice a person that put a lot of time and effort into this. It takes a lot to run a league; especially with our highly intelligent and calm pvp community.
As far as what everybody is complaining about... I'll leave it to you board ninjas to figure it out. -
Stop! Next thing you know people will be making signs saying "Cool Story, Philly" being they have nothing more original to do than copy OZ. Enough is enough!
Quote:Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu
Cool story, Philly. -
Funny thing is I planned on saving this match for you guys for the last week but then after all the nice things you said about me earlier tonight in the thread I had to go ahead and give in and treat you to the ultimate battle. <3
Quote:Originally Posted by Neuronia
It's ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
We'd potentially like to do this Sunday at 9 or 10 if possible. Need to check with Exit, Philly and Joe to make sure.
Pumpup music:
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Lol I remember when certain people used to do this about 5 seconds before hami dropped to pay them back for griefing raids.
Then again I know of several LES members that to this day have gifts turned off due to a hippety hoppity culprit as well. -
Oops just saw this or I would have responded earlier. No I wasn't referring to you at all in fact. Was referring to people who come out of matches screaming "omg kat change rules nao not fair we lost" crap that has been going on.
I agree that the matches last night sucked. Both teams were within the rules but no fun pvp was to be had. There are rules that potentially could be changed to keep that from happening again which I already stated I was open to taking motions on. That being said though changing that rule won't stop the drama because next week it will just be some other rule that omfg kat needs to change nao because some team lost or tied and is crying about it. That is pretty much what I am referring to, people wanting rules changed based on emotions and self preservation rather than wanting them to be changed because its necessary overall for all teams across the league to make the event better or more fun or fair. I know that was not your intentions in fact to be honest dUmb is the most unselfish and easy going team ever in existence in COH, I swear.
Quote:Originally Posted by Psoma
I hope you're not thinking that I'm guilty of mindlessly screaming for rule changes. I don't like spending time on rules, etc. at all, but if there is something that can change the league for the better, I'm okay with it. From what I had read, it seemed like there was a legitimate problem that came up because of 2 teams doing their best while not breaking rules, and the result was a craptastic match with teams quitting. I was just trying to offer a suggestion. -
Match schedule is up a day early. I am not sure if I will be here tomorrow night to post them so they are up early. "IF" any team signs up before tomorrow night then I will change them, if not then they are as is.
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Ok so basically first you have a problem with "one person having almighty power over it" but then you have a problem and want me to play almighty when you bombard me to suddenly make rule changes out of the air because it suits your needs at the time?
Lets see, second match (which I watched) you come out of the match. You didn't explain what was going on (and you didn't know I had watched the match) and just bombarded me with demands on a ruling to DQ them for playing an all stalker team. I told you they didn't break any rules, 2 stalkers are allowed and they played 2 stalkers. DUH?? If your memory is any good you will remember that all stalker lineups or any other type of lineup was allowed in the rules and that you guys voted to limit it to 2. The Captains of this League made that rule decision, not me. If it was left up to me all stalker teams would still be allowed because I don't particularly like limiting AT's and if I was going to limit any it would be healers because 3 therms in a 3v3 is lame. Anyways.
Last week it was all about a team getting their lineups in late (which they didn't) because they supposedly lied to you and told you someone wasn't going to play that night and set you up to thinking your lineup was safe then threw that person in at the last minute messing you up.
Couple weeks before that it was a temper tantrum over the 3 ties against Hell's team.
The consistent thing here is every time you lose, or don't win its Kat's fault or the other teams fault rather than it being your fault. Every one on this server knows this is a habitual problem of yours. You want to quit the league, cool saves me an assload of weekly aggravation of having to deal with all the crying and bombarding of tells in game of complaints. You want to start another league, go for it. The only reason I started this one was because a few of you had already tried very unsuccessfully to do that before. I don't participate, I don't get any prizes and it is absolutely no sweat for me to not volunteer my time. Don't think for a minute though that the rules being different in another league are going to change the fact that you are a sore loser and exercise bad sportsmanship and THAT is what the problem is. Not my rules or me not giving in to your demands all the time.
Quote:Originally Posted by XxBudweiser8xX
I thank you for trying to play mediator, But We have no second thoughts at all. We already have, and will not reconsider withdrawing from Kats league. There are numerous reasons, but the final straw was, if a rule states no 3 stalker teams, doesnt it make sence that if a team drops to 2 people, that a 2 stalker team wouldnt be legal either? Asked Kat for a ruling and was laughed at because "we were being ****** bags for not dropping to a 2v2 team" sorry, we were following what the rules state. Everyone was against ANYONE intentionally trying for TIES, yet when its done to 0utcast, Its completely acceptable and applauded.
I think we'll take our chances with the new league thanks.
So I would also take Mebs post as a decline to the panel position? Please let me know asap. -
Of course I would allow a motion to make teams have to play 3v3 and have to take a forfeit if they don't have 3. However lets take something in to consideration. We have 1 team that dropped due to not having enough to show up among other things. We have 2 other teams having the same exact issues. I wish those teams would all get together and maybe try to just make 1 or 2 solid teams of people showing up. However I doubt that is likely. So if they don't by limiting teams with less than 3 being able to play we might as well say bye to 2 more teams right now.
The real solution to it all is for people to be playing for fun and if a team is short then the other team match them person for person. Not like out of 3 matches every one wouldn't still get a chance to play. The first week we had teams that fought 1v1 because a team was short. They didn't have to but they did. They also had fun. Fun is not what its all about so the next best thing is to scream for rule changes. AFK while I figure out why I still do this again.
Quote:Originally Posted by Psoma
I haven't heard from a couple from our team, but I think this is a safe assumption:
dUmb would like to throw out that we'd prefer to play future matches on either Monday, Tuesday (which is my favorite), or Thursday...with Sundays coming in next if those 3 aren't good. Wednesdays are bad, along with Fridays...and Saturdays aren't the best, though we'll likely always have at least 3 on Saturdays when needed. This isn't like an official request for a league day/time change, but we're much more likely to field 4v4 and 5v5 on those other 3 days.
Also, know that we never play for ties. There isn't an available prize that would force me to play for a tie, and I'm pretty sure the others on our team feel the same way. That being said, I hate rule changes, but I'd be inclined at this point to say that fighting with less than 3 people just shouldn't be allowed.
I'm trying to look at the previous posts without any bias: Team A comes with 2 players and they want to PvP, and they hope that Team B agrees to fight at 2v2 to keep the match fair. Team B comes with 3 people (at least), and those people want to PvP, so they see forcing someone to sit as unfair to them. Team A will typically have no chance of winning a round going 2v3 against a team that's remotely similar in skill level; their only chance will usually be a very unlikely, double-AS. Similarly, Team B will typically have next to no chance of taking out an evading stalker. The match just seems rather pointless to me, and it seems like the most likely result is going to be animosity generated from teams (technically) following the rules.
From what it sounds like to me, neither team did anything wrong last night, but the match sucked. A rule change is the only thing that could assure it from happening again, so if a captain wants to propose a rule change about minimum team player match requirement numbers or some other rule that fixes this issue, feel free to PM me for support. If it's a logical, thought-out proposal, I'll be on board.
Edit: Just for clarity, I posted this before reading Kat's post. Also, I've thought about the emp/pain/thermal issue, and I suppose I'd be more inclined to support limits on toons with "heal other" types of powers than anything else, and it would need to be dependent on match size. Basically, I'd be supportive of ideas that prevent ties, but I typically rule in favor of AT non-limits when something is questionable. -
I was hoping letting teams join throughout the season would help ease that problem. The problem isn't the rules or lack of rules. The problem is pvp is dead in this game, sadly. Or a tleast as far as organized arena pvp. The ladder crumbled, the attempt of starting a 4v4 ladder on freedom doesn't seem to be working. Not sure how the ladder on Pinnacle is going after the drama and the reestablishing it but besides that Champions League is the only solid organized pvp across 11 servers right now. Already seeing it falter with teams not having enough people to show up. I sent a couple of teams emails today suggesting they consolidate in to 1 team being they are both short but not sure how that will work out or not.
Quote:Originally Posted by Neuronia
. Even then, there might just not be enough interest left in November for the ladder to sustain itself. Which is sad, because this had the potential to be fun for the most part. We'll see what happens but I'd be shocked if any more than 3 or 4 teams were left when December rolled around.
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Actually they did not play stalkers to get a tie. They asked nicely for good sportsmanship and for you guys to 2v2 them instead. Even after denied they still played the first match with a regular lineup. Personally if I asked another team to be good sports and equal us on match size to make it fun and fair and they didn't I would probably play 2 stalkers too. I was impressed they even tried to get any kills because most teams would have just stayed in hide and got their lulz on watching you hop around.
Not only did you guys refuse to down the match sizes which is your priority but then you smack talked during the second 2 matches and then thought "hey guys atleast give us the win being its same points for you to lose or tie" in broadcast was supposed to make them want to help you out.
Now I really hope you guys cool off this week and show up for Saturdays matches. However karma is a ***** and your own decisions is what brought that lineup to the matches to begin with. Because I truly believe you would have never seen a double stalker lineup from them had you just been nice and agreed to the 2v2 and you probably would have won all the matches and everyone would have had fun instead.
I can say this in regards to the therm lineups. If I was to reopen allowing motions on that I can almost guarantee you that the vote to limit them to 1 per match would pass. There are a few teams that voted no that have expressed they are changing their minds that facing all therm lineups is gai. So before making a big deal about the 2 stalkers I would take that in to consideration. As frustrating as 2 stalkers are, 2-3 therms in a 3v3 is equally frustrating.
Quote:Originally Posted by ELF_STALKER
They played for a tie cause they were man short. Not our problem give you all what have and go from there. Some team wont reschedule hoping to get advantage like you did. Not giving Artic's team the match on Friday. Cause you knew there main player would be out on Saturday. -
Scores have been updated. Some fun matches to watch tonight guise. GG!
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Again, I don't care what night it is on just realize I won't be there. That means the chances of any favorable intervention in regards to rules infractions isn't going to happen. If you guys trust each other to not be dueche bags and play fairly then go for it. Make a motion and I will take a vote. Do not however go in to it thinking some other PvPEC rep will be available. Also do not go in to it thinking some other PvPEC rep can intervene in the case of problems, because they can't. You guys may have to handle lineups by P.m.s the way the rules allow for. I will even be ok with other Captains taking lineups for matches they are not in as well. We used to do it in the Freedom League when occasionally necessary and besides the one tank was a brute issue (smiles at psoma) it was fine. If team X switches out lineups, doesn't show up, shows up half an hour late, spawn caps etc there is no way to prove it and it is what it is and I wont be intervening based on heresay after the fact. IF you guys are cool with that it works for me to have my Saturday nights free again. :-)
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I don't care what nights personally however Saturdays are the only night I can commit to being here. That means if no other PvPEC rep is available on another night if it was voted on then lineups would have to be handled by email. That also means there will be no immediate intervention if needed as far as rules violations, dq requests ect.
Quote:Originally Posted by Artic_Chill_44
I agree with Oz and I agree with what psoma says also maybe saturdays really arent the best days -
The entrance fee shouldn't be a problem. I have ran events for 500mil entrance fees that consistently had good turnout. Probably just the too early factor IMHO. I am sure you will have a huge turnout. :-) I would join and support your event but the only thing I enjoy pvp'n lately is my rad/psy which would make me a handicap to most people being they would have to play a similar self healing toon to make it work.
Quote:Originally Posted by Berserk Frost
Haven't gotten much feedback on this. Not sure if it's cause it's early or if no one is interested. Let me know what the case is so I can adjust the event. I've heard some things about the entrance being too high. If that's the case I'll lower it. Let me know what you think here please. Thanks. -
If you as a Captain would like the rules changed then get the required support from other Captains and make an appropriate motion. Other than that the rules are what they are and enforced as written.
On a side note the way I posted was me being my normal sarcastic self, not encouraging any deuchebaggery, just me being irritated at teams being petty and retarded. I thought every one here was pretty familiar with the fact that I am a sarcastic *****. :-)
Quote:Originally Posted by Neuronia
Kat,
I didn't call you that name at all, that's too much.
I'm just worried about teams losing standing points and so on over this.
If you really, honestly feel this is an issue, dock a team 1 point or a half point or something. Losing two points out of 4, or 4 points seems excessive from this point of view. Or make them play with what they have loaded in Pocket D at the time. There are better options than assigning game losses over this.
Another solution would be for you to have people PM their lineups before the match on the boards. You paste them in Broadcast, people have to play as such.
Sorry if I came off as being aggressive, but the way your post was worded seemed to me to be encouraging people to call time etc. to force a forfeit.
The point is we're all friends here on Champion, the important thing is keeping the matches rolling.
How about this:
Line-ups expected by 9:45 PM EST
Line-ups aren't in by 9:55, 1 point penalty or loss of map pick.
Line-ups aren't in by 10:00, forfeit or play what you have.
No line-ups submitted at all, you're out of luck.
Anyway, you're the manager and respect for your rulings.
Just got a bad feeling about this one.
