Coyote_Seven
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Quote:Well, a dog has no hands, so the only way they can hold things is with their mouth. So if they were going to wield a weapon at all (as opposed to just having one mounted on them somewhere), it would probably have to be with a "mouth-handle". It would also have to be something more effective than their own teeth in order to be worth it, though.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Well, the Soviets experimented with anti-tank dogs, but I don't think players would like that sort of powerset very much.
Other than that, you hit the nail on the head - how would a dog (or a cat or a bear) use a weapon in a way that appears practical? I know the trickery of video game special effects can make a lot of thing seem plausible when they really aren't (that's every attack in Dual Pistols, for instance), but I honestly lack the imagination to even picture this concept. Still images are easy enough to make, but it's the idea in motion where my brain draws a blank.
So probably when the dog uses this weapon it has in its mouth, it's gonna have to swing its head around. I'm pretty sure that will make it a lot more difficult to keep a lock on its target though, seeing as a dog's eyes are also in its head! Perhaps if the weapon was always oriented forward. You'd have to imagine something like a blade shooting directly out from its muzzle, so basically it can stab with its snout by lunging forward with it.
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Quote:Yeah, I was thinking more about how a dog could wield a weapon in a practical way, assuming a dog could know to use it as an extension of his or herself.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That's what I mean - this would make more sense in terms of what something with a dog's body shape could do and still look good doing it. But then you run into the problem of being unable to reuse any of the existing assets, and that's very unlikely to happen.
I tried Googling 'dog weapon' for a quick search to see if anyone anywhere at any time ever pondered this idea. Apparently not. Using dogs as weapons though... -
Quote:A dog would require a melee weapon designed specifically for it. It might be possible to make, say, a double bladed weapon that's meant to be held in the middle by a dog's mouth, which it would use in lieu of biting. You'd have to assume that a dog could be intelligent enough to know to use it as effectively as their own teeth.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
On topic: I honestly find dogs with swords in their mouths just very goofy. I don't so much find the concept implausible as I have a hard time accepting the mechanics behind it. A human with a sword in hand looks good because the human hand is capable of performing a wide swing arc - it has a great range of motion. A dog's head has nowhere near the same range of motion, thus a dog with a katana held in its mouth sideways just doesn't feel like it has the same "oomph" behind it. I've often said that melee weapons often just need to be longer to look bigger, because that makes their swings appear to hit harder.
Dogs and melee weapons, to my mind at least, don't really mix, at least no in a way that's anatomically logical for a dog to wield them. Dogs and other powersets, though, that I could see. I have no problem with a dog spitting missiles or having chainguns mounted on its back. None of that stuff relies on physics that just look plain wrong.
Maybe it would make more sense though to have something like metal claws on their front paws? -
BTW, it's not really that far to go from this:
Quote:To this:Originally Posted by Leo_G
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Quote:Because it looked like a sparkledog to me and so I asked?Originally Posted by Leo_G
No fantasy of mine. I posted what I'd want from a katana or broadsword wielding animal...for them to be using a katana or broadsword. Where the 'sparkledogs' thing came from is all on you.
Well ok, I apprehensively asked if it wasn't a sparkledog, because those things are kinda spooky, especially when they start showing up in large numbers! I'm surprised that you can't just go back to that post and read what I wrote, but... what-ev!
This whole bit about me stomping on your ideas though, that was entirely in your head. If you had just said "haha, no!" that would have been the end of it. I figured maybe you like to be crucified or something, IDK. *shrugs* -
Quote:Why yes, yes I do!Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
And where the giant pitfalls are, I'd imagine
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Quote:I might as well own up to the fact that I actively participated in Furry fandom from 1994 to 2001, and I've kept close tabs with it since. So I think I got a pretty good idea what it's about.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I do, actually. That's a subject matter where one must have some degree of standards and some degree of selectiveness, granted, but it's not as bad as SomethingAwful would have people at large believe.
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Quote:OOOOOkay, that explains absolutely zero about your little fantasies about me stomping on things just because you found them on a site that talks about memes, even though I wasn't even thinking about that when I first brought it up. But whatever. You keep on... doing... that thing you do.Originally Posted by Leo_G
Google Sparkledogs and the 1st result is:
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Quote:Wait, what? You're the one that first brought up the whole thing about it being a meme. How did... I don't... HUH?Originally Posted by Leo_G
And why can't people just do what they want without being pointed at, laughed at and made a joke of? Let those kids do what the **** they want. But you can't, because it's a meme! Now he have to point and laugh at them!
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Quote:Furry things in video games can be T rated, as Sly Cooper and Fox McCloud can attest! I can make no guarantees about their fans, however...Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
I think they just need to keep in mind the T rating when doing anything furry. We cannot even post a picture of a real dead horse here so a lot of that furry action would be banned.
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Quote:You know not the horror that you would unleash upon an unsuspecting world!Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Quote:No actually, I was wrong about it being a sparkledog. The gothy sparkledogs that are dark and have pointy things are called gloomdogs. I stand corrected!Originally Posted by Leo_G
PS: if you couldn't tell, that black wolf was photoshopped to add a katana in its mouth. So before, it was just a wolf with a chain. *OBVIOUSLY* it was a meme before. Adding a katana just solidifies that point. Infallible Logic!
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Quote:You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.Originally Posted by Leo_G
Because memes are stupid.
This isn't merely some cat that can haz a cheeseburger. There's plenty of kids on the net out there who portray themselves as sparkledogs. Well, not as many now since MLP:FiM went on the air, but it's still pretty freaking huge. -
For everyone else who didn't bother to look it up. Imagine two years from now, the streets of Paragon City are littered with fancy talking canines trailing sparkly rainbow streaks behind them, and they all generally look like this:
Maybe Furries aren't the worst thing that could happen?
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Also, you obviously didn't look up any sparkledogs of the goth variety. Those ones are also very dark and very black, and also very moody and sometimes seen with sharp things. It's only the multicolored sparkledogs that are seen with iPods and sometimes having wings.
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Quote:Dang, I had no idea you trained your dog how to fight with a katana in its mouth. When did this teaching dogs to fight with swords and knives become a thing?Originally Posted by Leo_G
How could the second be a sparkle dog? It's *ONE* color with practically no extra design besides it being a black wolf with a chain and bracelets. Unless you think animals can't have accessories, I guess I'd better throw my lab's spiked collar away...
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Are those first two sparkledogs? Please tell me they're not sparkledogs!
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If they gave us player characters that could look like Puss in Boots, very soon we'd have players clamoring for player characters that could look like Carmelita Fox...
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Quote:Behold, the precedent for my request. I wish the devs would commission some comics where the heroes halt havoc by confounding their foes with delicious confections!Originally Posted by Xzero45
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Quote:Also, make sure each and every arc ends with the words "You get a big delight in every bite of Hostess..." fruit pies, Twinkies, cupcakes, etc.Originally Posted by Olantern
I remember both these things, because they are ridiculous and enjoyable.
P.S. Make sure to check if your arc is still playable, and please fix it if it isn't, because I have several heroes who could use a pie interlude.
P.P.S. Ghost Widow, after being thrown a delicious baked good, ought to say, "The dead do not change ... nor does the delicious taste of Hostess (R) Cupcakes." -
Quote:I don't know, it certainly felt that way for a while! South Park is like this as well. It just keeps going and going...Originally Posted by Lothic
I think it's probably just another hint that the Simpson's era is coming to a close.
It's been a great franchise but it's not going to last forever...
For me, The Simpsons stopped being relevant some time in 1997, about two years after the movie should have come out, seriously! -
Quote:Oh yeah, Sean Baby. That site's been around for over a decade now, I think!Originally Posted by Battlerock_X
FUNNY you should mention that... someone recently pointed me to a website that has those old ads.
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I want to see Lord Recluse distracted by a box full of fruit pies!
And Ghost Widow. "Even ghosts can appreciate the deliciousness of Twinkies cakes!" -
Any of you remember those Hostess ads in Marvel and DC comic books? The ones where the villains would be thwarted by the strategic use of Twinkies, Ding-Dongs and Fruit Pies.
We could really use a CoH version of those, I think. -
In his honor, the devs should make versions of the CoH client for Atari ST and Amiga.