ConFlict

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You cant really believe people dueling want to fight you mid duel...

I dont see what is to be gained other than small chance of a pvp IO and to spoil other peoples fun.

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If i had a nickle for every time I let someone slide in a pvp zone because I respected a duel or was letting them badge/farm and had it come back to burn me I would be a rich [censored]. As it stands now and for sometime if I can attack you you better be ready because I ain't slowing down. I could give a [censored] less what the guy on the other end thinks about fun. You want to duel and not get attacked gtfo my zone.

I don't ever expect things to go back the way they were. I don't expect things to get better or the devs to listen. I do expect me to correct peoples perceptions that anything expect game speed has really changed.


All the devs really did was slow down enough that people still think they stand a chance, when in fact almost every fight now is decided by sets and numbers per side before the first attack is ever thrown.




For the record I said while testing this in i13 beta while testing this I was 100% sure this is exactly what the devs wanted for changes. While I stick around and have even been enjoying myself in pvp of late, it makes me a little sad they switched me fom finesse toons and buffers to stalkers and brutes. So much of the skills gained in the old pvp is wasted now and I believe the number one reason a good number of players who were good at i12 pvp don't like the new pvp.

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I think the new PvP requires more skill to survive since it is easier to get a kill.

It took a lot of skill for blasters to hit build up+Aim+ Fire Ball+Inferno=win in the old PvP. What I think the devs tried was to bring the OP toons down and the Weaker toons up so they are at the same lvl. I am not saying the PvP is perfect, but its on the right direction and it still needs some work. The reason I quit playing my Fire/Energy Blaster in PvP was one day I hit Force of Nature and took out a whole villain team of 2 brute, 2 corr and a dom before it dropped. Granted they might have been some real bad PvPers; however they should have killed me. I like the new PvP since there is an excitement that I can die.

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Switch force for ice and your fire blast for psi then come back and tell how much has really changed.

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Weak? Your entire counter argument is because you couldn't keep up, it had to be slowed down. That's like saying the NBA should ban people taller than 6ft because you aren't tall enough.

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Who said I couldnt keep up? Have u even read my posts? I even kept them short for you.

Anywayz, the snoring pace of pvp works despite what side you of victory u emerge. In other words, for me to kill in a few secs/hits is NOT fun. That is maybe unless u have low esteem and these weaksauce kills make u feel better abt yourself.

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The only ways you died in seconds in i12 was if you were either bad or not paying attention or got spiked. Bad news for you, those are still true in the new pvp.

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I14 is a step in the overhaul of the pvp system. Its not perfect by any means. But are more AT's in RV on freedom at least then the FOTM stalker or perma doms. If you disagree then you haven't played.

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Yup yup.

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There must be 2 freedoms then. Because about all I see in rv are tanks and scrappers with some psi blasters floating around hero side. On vills its pretty much stalkers and corrs(usually elec/therms). While its mostly different ats and sets from i12 I know I sure wouldn't call it diversity.




P.S.: there is a lot of fail in this thread, and I agree with macskull on everything.

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I killed you there a few days ago, just saying.

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*golf clap*


Reminds me of the 3 year olds playing cops and robbers...


"i killed you!"


"no huh i killed you!!"


"no huh i killed you!"


"no...lol you killed me! yay!"


Just saying..

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Thank god we have a 7 year old to judge us, ggg.



And Kor, I think you were in rv for the blink of an eye.

I killed you there a few days ago, just saying.

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low talent players taking out skilled players with ease.

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While the rest of your post was a good laugh, this one line really stands out. Since the changes it is way more about the build than the skill. While I could often take on many people at once on any build in i12 and do well with evasion and inpires no amount of anything can help in i13+ pvp.



I know there are fans of the new pvp because they don't get perma held on their rp tanks and what not. You really just could have gotten better at the old system instead of try to dumb it down enough so that you could feel adequate in pvp. 99% of the i12 complaints were solved by using inspires. Sort of odd they actually tried to make pvp less inspire oriented while at the same time adding ma which encourages people to use them more in pve.

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you had to see freedom ac yersterday.......one could think bunch of old bald picky english teachers play this game now...

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I speak American.

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Hi Con!! ASL?

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67/hermie/in bed

If you can't at least compete in this pvp you are doing something really wrong. Yes ss is better but any well built shielder should be able to be a pain in zones, even more so if you have taunt.

Mac get a new hobby. Well thought out and pretty damn dead on though.



Sad part, we had people put that kinda of effort in pre i13 and look at all the good it did .

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Do you like to swim?

So am I incorrect to be thinking this is just a giant sausgefest and we are all now flirting with each other?

Nivene seems to be the watcher of Con. She gave me my one and only warning ever, and it was for calling a guy a sitcom of all things. Mod 08 has actually been helpful when asked at keeping 'the time has come' thread alive. Its a strange world we live in.

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Con stop reviving necro threads :P

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I usually never let it go more than 2 weeks without posting in it. A few times me and Killo let it go almost a month before post ing it. This is to good not to have around for people to read.

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lolpve

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Not so fun when they pick on the part of the game you enjoy is it plas.

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It's funny that you have a dying PvP section.

It makes me smile.

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Its funny we are playing a dying game, it makes me look forward to consoles again.

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Who are these "we" of which you speak? I've not played the game for well over a year, nor have I given NCSoft a dime in said time.

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You are missed.

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Not so fun when they pick on the part of the game you enjoy is it plas.

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It's funny that you have a dying PvP section.

It makes me smile.

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Its funny we are playing a dying game, it makes me look forward to consoles again.

Looking for ma pl team, pst.

I vote for emp/psi/tk.


Spine regin is really good to.

I forgot to add,



Ma wasn't really intended when the game came out, so they can probably scrap it. It was shoehorned in and really requires to much work that may have an adverse effect on pve. They are better off removing it and leaving it for other games that it fits in better.




Man its awesome throwing this stuf back at people. I will be back as I think of more!

I have seen a few of them in rv as well. Hadn't really noticed they were clones, just know I have seen the name alot this week.

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wut

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mac, stop trolling.

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Not so fun when they pick on the part of the game you enjoy is it plas.

Shade and Posi have been on almost daily. I saw Golden Avatar about a month ago in ouro. I am no help with the rest.