Chieta_Corps

Yep, I've totally done it now... I've killed my drive to level.

I can't bring myself to go from 49 to 50. Between the long animations(just about 3 secs on EACH power), weak damage, long recharge, and high endurance use I just don't see a reason to bother anymore.

I'm REALLY dissapointed but I'll still do more testing, at lvl 50 I'll devote my last 3 slots to School of sharks making the slotting 2acc 2 immob.

But I'm going to force myself to get this lvl by tomorrow to get more testing data, I'll post rough immob times on different level enemies, slotted and unslotted, when I get the chance.

Spirit Shark: Uses Combustion animation(3 secs)
School of Sharks: Uses Twilight Grasp/Electron Haze animation(2.37 secs)
Chum Spray: Uses Shout/Neurotoxic Breath Animation(2.67 secs)
Summon Guardian: Uses Animate Stone/Spectral Terror Summoning animation(3.2 secs)

Immob time for School of Sharks(1 lvl 50 acc) on +2 longbow(lvl 51) minions is around 14-15 seconds.

Its better just to believe Iakona. I was skeptical too until I lost my right index finger in an "accident".

*Looks around fearfully*

Seriously though, I'm not gonna ask questions about how he got the data, I just know that it is correct, I've even managed to confirm the no recharge thing on Mako's Pet(which should be the same for all the other pets).

So I'm pretty confident in all his data he's posted.

Hit lvl 49 and grabbed school of sharks. Combos pretty well with Chum spray.

Pet's HP went up to 1070, yawn.

I think I've finally burned myself out... I figured the PPPs would be so cool but alas I was overcome by by the sheer newness of them. They all had that new power appeal to them that greatly overshadowed just how mediocre they were.

I've even given up on chum spray

Once I hit lvl 50 I'll determine which patron powers to keep and which to do without but for now, I sorta wish I didn't push myself to level this fast.

On the upside I still have faith in the devs, I know they'll do something about this.

roger that, i'll head to nerva and go pick on some family. They're around the docks all the time, they should be used to it



CHUM SPRAY(Bile Spray)

Test subject: Button Man Buckshot [Family Minion]; Level 25 (-23)
Fury: None
Enhancements: 1 accuracy 3 Power 2 recharge(level 50)

Initial damage: 129.29 (log) / 129 (on screen) Toxic Damage
DoT (per hit): 18.46 (log) / 18 (on screen) [5 DoT ticks total] Toxic Damage

Total damage (log): 129.29 + (18.46*5) = 52.04 Toxic Damage
Total damage (screen): 129 + (18*5) = 50 Toxic Damage

Air Superiority [2 accuracy 1 recharge(level 50)] - Died before use.
Brawl [1 accuracy(level 50)] - 50.76


Test subject: Underboss [Family Boss]; Level 25 (-23)
Fury: None
Enhancements: 1 accuracy 3 Power 2 recharge(level 50)


Initial damage: 129.29 (log) / 129 (on screen) Toxic Damage
DoT (per hit): 18.46 (log) / 18 (on screen) [5 DoT ticks total] Toxic Damage

Total damage (log): 129.29 + (18.46*5) = 52.04 Toxic Damage
Total damage (screen): 129 + (18*5) = 50 Toxic Damage

Air Superiority [2 accuracy 1 recharge(level 50)] - EXACTLY 141(suprised me)
Brawl [1 accuracy(level 50)] - 50.76

ahh i knew i forgot something. When i tested chum spray at lvl 47 on those 50s and 49s I had lvl 50 enhancements in it.

Sorry about not being clear.

Level 48.

Pet slotting will be 1acc 3 dam

Pet HP is now 1065...

What is up wit THAT!? 5 hp from a lvl up?

ALSO:

Has anyone noticed that the lk distance is noticably shorter now? You can barely get cross the big room in warehouse map before you travel too far.

For the Brute pet:

Enhance Slow Movement
Reduce Endurance Cost
Enhance Range
Enhance Knockback
Enhance Immobilization
Enhance Damage
Enhance Accuracy

Can't slot recharge in thar. Now to the test numbers.

Edit: At lvl 47 he cons yellow to me and has 1060 hp and has an auto power that makes him resistant to smashing and lethal



CHUM SPRAY(Bile Spray)

Test subject: Longbow Rifleman [Longbow Minion]; Level 50 (+3)
Fury: None or extremely minimal
Enhancements: 1 accuracy 3 Power 2 recharge

Initial damage: 24.69 (log) / 25 (on screen) Toxic Damage
DoT (per hit): 3.52 (log) / 4 (on screen) [5 DoT ticks total] Toxic Damage

Total damage (log): 24.69 + (3.52*5) = 42.29 Toxic Damage
Total damage (screen): 25 + (4*5) = 45 Toxic Damage

Air Superiority [2 accuracy 1 recharge] - 22.96 Smashing
Brawl [1 accuracy] - 8.11 Smashing


CHUM SPRAY(Bile Spray)

Test subject: Longbow Flamethrower [Longbow Minion]; Level 49 (+2)
Fury: None or extremely minimal
Enhancements: 1 accuracy 3 Power 2 recharge

Initial damage: 30.39 (log) / 30 (on screen) Toxic Damage
DoT (per hit): 4.33 (log) / 4 (on screen) [5 DoT ticks total] Toxic Damage

Total damage (log): 30.39 + (4.33*5) = 52.04 Toxic Damage
Total damage (screen): 30 + (4*5) = 50 Toxic Damage

Air Superiority [2 accuracy 1 recharge] - 31.17 Smashing
Brawl [1 accuracy] - 9.5 Smashing


Its widely known that Longbow resist smashing/lethal.

BUG: The Bile Spray DoT reports its damage as being done to you(the player character)

instead of the enemy.The initial damage is reported correctly.

Did more testing, the pet can ALMOST outdamage me unslotted when i'm out little fury, when fury builds his damage is pretty much dwarfed. 3 damages should put him at an accpetable level.

Also I need to stop goofing off and get more numbers on chum spray. Gonna throw it at some +2 and +3 longbow to see how it turns out. Of course I'll be using IBM Ref's Data format.

I'll start as soon as test comes back up.

Also:

Devs please make scrolling through the tabs easier, its really hard to find old numbers cuz the scrolling is so erratic.

as per usual i'm starting to have second thoughts about my previous comments, but I'll hold my judgement till i've slotted it with atleast 1 acc and 3 dam.

That recharge is a definate put off to the pet powers though. I hope the feedback we provide promotes a positive change in this PPP.

nope he's sorta like a troller pet. I wish he's stay around longer...

Out of all the stuff I've fought he only managed to get kill by Mynx during a mayhem mish. So if he's that strong then the corruptor and dom pets must be insane.

Yeah, soon as I die...

Here are a few pics of him. He's level 47(same as me) hits like a truck, uses stone cage, has a hammer(like me) and can keep up and just about do as much damage as me, probably more. So this is probably why all our other powers seem so... bleh(cept for chum spray CHUM YOUR LIIIFE1!!) tho i'd like a recharge cut on the pet, that much awesome shouldn't have a 15min recharge time.

I unleashed him on some lvl 40s, caaarnage.

Summoning

Size comparison and dance contest, I won.

ZOMG!! HOMERUN!!111!!

He's my buddy and I'll definately use him on mayhem missions to help me with the end boss/hero. I wanna show him to everyone!

Hit lvl 47, I'll have pics of my pet up as soon as test stops Mapservering.

i'm like 6.4 bars off lvl 47 and the brute pet, I hope it turns out good because the more I use my patron powers the more I begin to compare their damage to non slotted for damage Air Superiority and weep.

I need to do more tests...

excellent, very very awesome. Hmmm but what kind of testing data can we get for this?

Ehhh, i'm gonna leave that alone, I'm mainly here to give everyone who reads this topic information on the patron powers, and testing data.

Those who partake of the data can then determine how they feel about them but I really don't want a PPP vs EPP situation to arise in this topic, we've kept this topic pretty much clean for 4 pages(50 posts per page).

Just give those testing a little time to post numbers and scaling information, the devs might pull something amazing.

excellent, all we need now is a stalker to come in here and give us the info we want on water spout(pics as well).

Wanna see what Doms are capable of as wellll.

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Hehe - nice!

Dare I ask what the sound effect for "TEH CHUM" is? I was really hoping for the nice 'sploshy' sound the Corolax Hybrids make with their water attack, but I s'pose a nice throaty puke is quite possible...

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Sounds like a flowy sound slike the corolax Hybrids, cept no water splash towards the end.

The cone is INSANELY HUGE. If you step back a bit you can cover a entire small room with it hitting just about every enemy inside.

I put 1acc 3dam in it last night but it still feels like it's unslotted, maybe I was too sleepy... I'll get some pics of me using it on longbow and pics of just how much it can hit after I get back on.

Edit: oh crap forgot, i'm always fighting +2 and +3s so thats why it may feel that way. I'm try something diff as well, i'm gonna get some PvP testing. TO THE ARENA!!!

Level 45

Chum spray is now slotted 1 accuracy 3 power

I'll get some numbers up on different enemies when i'm not asleep

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Devs I know I'm asking for a bit much but could Bile Spray have a secondary effect? Something like -def or -res.

PLEASE OH PLEASE DEVS! I'M ON MY KNEES!!!

*Begs for a REALLY long time*

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brutes running around with cone based def/resis debuff is pretty broken..

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Comon it fits in with the whole CHUM SPRAY theme. You're spitting up acidic spray, its gotta atleast debuff defense or resistance. A modest number will do. something like 10-15%

Devs I know I'm asking for a bit much but could Bile Spray have a secondary effect? Something like -def or -res.

PLEASE OH PLEASE DEVS! I'M ON MY KNEES!!!

*Begs for a REALLY long time*

its all toxic damage, and it has KICKASS range, and a bearable animation time.

Chum spray -> School of sharks -> Fault -> Tremor

Thats gonna be the new powercombo trust me

All I have to do now is spec into school of sharks. See you guys at lvl 44 so we can do the 3rd respec

EDIT: Also I know you don't mean to but please don't bring whatever is happening in the other PPP topics here. After checking the others I just don't see much testing data at all just bickering...

And here are some pics of the SEXY Tek SE-2 Bodyguard Android Firing off CHUM SPRAAAY!!

CHUM SPRAY!!

CHUM SPRAY!!

CHUM SPRAY!!

CHUM SPRAY!!

CHUM SPRAY!!

CHUM SPRAY(Bile Spray)

Test subject: Mu Striker [Arachnos Minion] Level 40 [-4]
Fury: None or extremely minimal
Enhancements: 1 accuracy

Initial damage: 29.78 (log) 30 (screen) Toxic Damage
DoT (per hit): 4.25 (log) 4 (screen) [5 DoT ticks Total] Toxic Damage

Total damage (log): 29.78 + (4.25*5) = 51.03 Toxic Damage
Total damage (screen): 30 + (4*5) = 50 Toxic Damage

Air Superiority [2 accuracy] - 63.84 Smashing
Brawl [1 accuracy] - 25.06 Smashing

CHUM SPRAY FOREVA!

i'm one bar away from CHUM SPRAY!!!!!, I'll post pics when i can.

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For those of you who are dissatisfied with the amount of hard numbers given to us by the devs about these powers, here are some of the numbers I've collected:
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Power Shark Spirit Spirit School Bile Water Summon Summon Summon Summon
Skin Shark Shark of Spray Spout Guardia Coralax Coralax Guardian
Jaws Sharks (Brute) (Corr.) (Dom.) (Stalk)
BaseAcc 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Target single single single cone cone Summon Summon Summon Summon Summon
MaxTrgt 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0
Radius 0 0 0 50 60 0 0 0 0 0
Angle 0 0 0 30 30 0 0 0 0 0
Range 0 80 80 50 60 60 60 60 60 60
Activat 0.67 3 1.87 2.37 2.67 1.17 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2
Recharg 4 9 32 20 32 180 900 900 900 900
s/Tick 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
EndCost 0.1625 8.58 10.66 12.74 18.98 26 26 26 26 26
Enhance resdam endredu hold endredu endredu endredu slow slow slow hold
endredu range endredu range range range endredu endredu endredu slow
recharg recharg range recharg recharg stun range range range endredu
knockbk recharg immobil damage recharg knockbk stun knockbk range
damage damage damage accurac knockbk immobil knockbk damage knockbk
accurac accurac accurac defdbuf damage immobil accurac damage
damage accurac damage accurac
accurac </pre><hr />
I'll soon be posting the numbers I have for each pet's individual powers.

NOTE: Before you ask--yes, what I've shown here states that recharge enhancements are NOT allowed in the 15 minute recharge pet powers.

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how'd you manage to get ahold of all this?

Hmm if thats the case we might as well not bother testing, see you losers on live!

Naw i'm kidding, i'm still gonna do extensive testing