Chanio

The initial base cost does not put me off that much, I am in a very small SG, just 3 of us left regularly playing now. But although I have a mastermind on the go I prefer the heroes at the moment. So I will be levelling my alts after my main, which is lvl 44, gets to 50. My other members well play their alts a lot too, and hopefully we will get more people to help us. So eventually we will have enough to buy a base, my problem is the fact that you have rent too, so you work for months getting your base then go play on CoV for a week or so and cant afford the rent.

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The worst thing about ED for DM/DA is that I now have eight bleedin' toggles!

Im not going anywhere near PvP zones if theres even a hint of toggle droppers being in the vicinity.

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Every class has its big disadvantages, you just have to learn to live with it, many tanks rely on toggle powers. Controllers rely on getting you under control before you start hitting them. Team work will fill any gaps, a good defender will TP you out when toggles your held or some else that drops toggles, in mass PvP team work is all, every class has huge gaps in his defence so you will need team work.

It’s a bit defeatist to say that you are already doomed just because of one thing, Dm/DA has many advantages in PvP that should see us through.

Just like to say Gratz to Juni hitting lvl 50, first of the Tzu warriors SG to do so.

From Mr Chan

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OK, I went into Warburg last night with 4 tanks and a scrapper from my sg. I proceeded to egt held and killed, tp'd and killed or just plain killed.

Are we doomed to have to avoid PvP zones or is there hope. The free for all nature just made it suicidal to leave the safe area.

I have never PvP before so I am thinking that some of the clever and Arena hardened Empaths out there may have some suggestions for me.

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In large groups you will be just fine, obviously your one of the main targets being weak in defence and useful to a group while standing.

Team with a few controllers and you will become 2nd or 3rd on hit list rather than 1st.

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I would. but my characters are newbies as i got the game two days ago, is that any help?

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I am happy to take Newbies, the fact is PvP will not take off until some of the villians start to hit lvl 50. So you have plenty of time to level.

Hi I plan on creating a PvP Hero group, very soon. Although I think that it will be small for a while due to the amount of people going over to the villians.

My aim is to get the most PvP heroes that I can in One SG.

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Does anyone know how 3 slotted Tough & Murky cloud compare to 6 slotted Murky cloud in terms of both Dam Res AND endurance cost? Would be nice to know!

Cheers!

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Dark Embrace gives 22.5% base six slotted gives 49.5.

If I remember rightly Tough gives 11.25% bases (could be 11.5% which is why I will show workings for you to replace number if I am wrong)

11.25 + 22.5 = Base without slotting = 33.75

Then 3 slot damage resist in each gives

33.75 * 1.56 (1 for base 56% for 3 slots) = 52.65% resistance,

But remeber this is only for S\L

Hope this helps.

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You know, if you read my post in this very thread you'd see that I am picking up Tough. I didn't think /DA needed it before but with ED it does.

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Sorry Mate I simply misread your post, and I totally agree with what you said.

It's a pity we need it as it's another power pool that I have to pick up to be effective. We also need Super jump or Hover to get over our Knockback problem and Fitness for our high End problem, not a great room for diversity in DM\DA builds.

I have gone for presence as my 4th pool power (was a close call with leadership), I am going to see how mass fear effects help my team out in PvP. Would of liked to take leadership as well but no real room.

My apologies again for misreading your post, I should be more careful especially if I am going to use you as an example of a different point of view. We are all friends here so one or two mistakes is not a cgreat crime.

Hi Just a few of my thoughts have not had a chance to test anything out lately so they are initial thoughts ouly, take with a pinch of salt.

First thing is with the loss of so much Resistance I think Toughness is needed. (I know "the Question" does not think so perhaps he is better at not getting aggro than me so playing style will matter here).

I have decided to keep The body Epic power, but will only take FA, as conserve power is practically useless now.

If you only play PvE and have FA your best bet is to slot 3 damage and 3 recharge time enhancements, for all you single target damages. This will work out as being Faster than Hasten so you will make up for some of the lost damage.
Although I plan to PvP alot so I will not only need to 3 slot FA with ToHit Buffs (other 3 slots for EndRed, obviously) but I will need to slot an extra accuracy so for PvP 3 damage and 2 recharge time and 1 Acc.
Again please note I have not done any PvP yet just speculation from what I have heard.

With the extra slots you gain from ED try to put a few EndRed in the AoE powers as they cost.

Still not sure if Syphon Life is worth it but if anyone has opinions on this would be good to hear.

I plan to drop Death shroud, due to not being able to fully slot it for damage I dont now think it is worth it. This means that I can pick up CoF (as shroud was the only reason I did not have it). I plan to slot this with 3 EndRed, 1 acc and 2 fear duration. With the base ToHit debuff being only 10% not worth slotting enhancements to boost this.

I have not give my full build as I plan to be Mass PvP based and somethings I am trying may not actually work out, I'd hate to think I gave bad information to someone and ruined their build.

All in all I am noyt overly happy with ED but out of the scrappers at least we have a few tricks to fall back on (CoF, Disoriante aura forgot name) so it may have totalled our armours but we can manage.
Because DM\DA was a challanging class before ED I am sure that everyone who was successful with it before will be again. If you don't think whilst usuing DM\DA then you faceplant, this has not changed just more true.

Thats it from me but I am sure I will share more thoughts with you guys soon, like it or not .

Good Luck my fellow DM\DA Heroes.

Hi does anyone know FA numbers, if FA was unslotted what would the bonus to accuracy be?

I was wondering how many people would be interested in a PvP orientated guild? I am thinking about starting one.
The idea is to get all those heroes who want to PvP in one place.