Celtic_NA

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As far as I know - the devs have no plans for including an alternate method to get isolator if you did not get it in outbreak.

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In other words:

If you were with us from the beginning and put your faith in us at launch this is our way of saying you're SOL. For those of you that didn't have faith in us and hesitated til badges were created, you're in luck.

Thanks guys...

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You know what? They should take the damn badge out of the game and just be done with it.

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Now THIS is an idea I can get behind!

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Please, if you disagree with someone - state your opinion and leave it at that. No need to bash people for their thoughts/ideas. Some people want X - others don't. Agree to disagree. Thanks.


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No kidding. The venom in this thread is really disturbing.

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I'm thinking about bottling it and selling it as a cure all elixer. I'll call it "Dr. LiquidX's Heal-All juice".

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Why ain't my name on that bottle? I was the first to go all hostile-like.

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People get kinda edgy when they see a tombstone on a bottle of stuff.

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Well...it could be a cross, I guess...

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Please, if you disagree with someone - state your opinion and leave it at that. No need to bash people for their thoughts/ideas. Some people want X - others don't. Agree to disagree. Thanks.


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No kidding. The venom in this thread is really disturbing.

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I'm thinking about bottling it and selling it as a cure all elixer. I'll call it "Dr. LiquidX's Heal-All juice".

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Why ain't my name on that bottle? I was the first to go all hostile-like.

Note: CuppaJo has been informed of this thread, and hopefully it will get some official answers, and will be locked. Seriously...we've taken an innocent suggestion and made it into a flame war.


...I guess that makes us big damn heroes.

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Though at this point I would take anything.

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Good...here's an act of me bidding you [censored] adieu.

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YOu have a right to your opinions, you do not have the right to swear and yell at people who dissagree with you. Argue yes. Vent no.

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I'll take the blame for the swearing...he did it much less than I did.

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I dont' get why you guys are so mad about it. It is just one small thing that many people really want.

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While I can't speak for Liquid, I'm not mad at the suggestion, just that some people feel that they "deserve" something for being a customer, when in reality, you're paying for a service, and nothing more.

It would just be like if I were to go into McDonalds, ordered a cheese burger, and then claimed that I deserved fries with that for free. It's money out of their pocket, not helping them at all, and in fact hurting them, but it helps me because I get a dancing plethora of hot tasty french fries in my mouth screaming "Hallelujah". I ordered the cheeseburger, paid for the cheeseburger, and then I asked for more without any show for it.

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YOu have a right to your opinions, you do not have the right to swear and yell at people who dissagree with you. Argue yes. Vent no.

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I'll take the blame for the swearing...he did it much less than I did.

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Uhm I wasn't trying for insulting when I said Fanboi. It is just well known on the forums that that is what you guys are and Friggin taser. No offense that's just the way it is.

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I'm not a "fanboi". I'd have the exact same stance if this was WoW, EQ2, or even Horizons (A game I loathe). A "Fanboi" is a person who blindly defends the Dev's ragardless of what they do. I, myself, dislike (and have stated my dislike in the past) several things the Dev's have done in the past. (Like selling the Hero Gear kit, the repetitious nature of Task Forces, and the stated intent to give players of CoV access to the Pre-Order helmets without having actually pre-ordered the game).

"Fanboi" is just a convenient little title you decided to label me with simply because it gives you an easy way to dismiss my opinions.



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Yeah..this upset me a bit, too.

Things the devs have done that I hate:

Endurance changes to mobs enemies.
Vigilance.
Defiance, to a point.
The buff of damage from 400% to 500% for Blasters/Scrappers.
Some more things, but I'm too tired and in the middle of a mission.

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They already said they don't intend for every badge to be attainable by a single character. Right around the time people first noticed that anycharacter made after badges were introduced couldn't get Isolator.

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*points to his post earlier in the thread*

Celtic, do your search-fu. I believe it was Positron who initially posted that reasoning regarding Isolator when it was first released.

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Badges that are "one chance" deals (like isolator)...

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Search-Fu

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It's funny that neither of you can present actual arguments as to why someone who has supported this game from the beginning shouldn't be aloud to get a chance at the Isolator badge.

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asking for something that takes resources, money, and time away from things that need it more (eg: bugs, powers, content)

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So whats to keep someone from signing onto the game right now, and then demanding that there should be a way for them to get things like the Celebrant Badge, the Halloween Badges, or all the Winterlord badges? *THEY* never knew about them, and *they* never had the chance to get them...

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Nothing. Nothing is here to stop them and that is the point.

This is the suggestion forum. It is where people go to request things and suggest things.

But for the record this is my opinion on the subject. It is not the same your comparison is flawed.

I did not miss a badge because I was not playing this game when those badges were awarded. (Like the holiday badges)
I missed getting a badge because I was a loyal customer and played and supported this game from the very beginning.
To me that is a huge difference. Customers should be rewarded for staying with a game and not punished.

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A loyal cutomer, eh? Then why the [censored] are you asking for meaningless [censored] to complete you little collection when they could spend their resources on things that actually help this game and make it better?

I'm tired of this crap about being loyal when all you do is act like a BMW: [censored], moan, and whine. What about the prestige power sprint? New people can't get that, but if you were a "loyal customer", then you could have gotten it by being in the [censored] beta.

How about the Celebrant badge? Or the Calvin Scott TF? Those things were only able to be obtained/completed if you were a "loyal customer" and played at that time.

Don't [censored] talk about being loyal if you aren't helping this community and the company out.

Edit: Too quick for me, Liquid.

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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.

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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.

The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...

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But we want it on our MAIN badge [censored]. Why is that so hard to understand? Why is it that just because you don't care about getting Isolator you think we shouldn't be allowed to get it?

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And why is it so hard for YOU to understand that if you don't fullfill the requirements to get the badge (Even if you had no way of doing so previously) that you should *NOT* be able to get the badge, or be able to go back and get it?

Y'know, I am getting so [censored] tired of people wanting to whine or twist the system just so they can get their way. Get the [censored] over it.

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BECAUSE. we (I) was never given the chance to get it. I play one toon. I was 50 before I2 and I still play him everyday. I have 315 badges. and the ONLY reason I don't have Isolator is because it did not exist when I started after beta.
Not only that but I DID kill well over 100 contaminated, because we were just learning about the game at the time and it was fun; But because they weren't tracking kills back then I still don't get the badge, even though technicaly I DID EARN IT.
That is why we need something (at the very least for any toon started before I2) to allow us the chance to get that badge.

You may not understand why it is important to us. You may not understand why we dont just roll up another badge toon (though personaly it is because I wouldn't have any of the holiday badges if I did)
But just because you don't get it is no reason to deny it to us.

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We [censored] get it...we have the same [censored] situation. My badge collector has almost every badge but Isolator, too. He was made in before issue 1 came out. He's level 42. The only difference is that we accept that we can't get everything, and we're fine with that.

Seriously, you're acting like a child...just stop asking for what you can't have, and accept the slap and the wrist.

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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.

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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.

The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...

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I suppose I'm in a weird mood today. The three name thing always threw me though. I suppose there are a few people who do genuinely want to be called by three names, but I'd wager they were few and far between.

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I've known a couple people who like to have their entire name used. And a few that wanted to completely ignore either their first or middle name. People can be odd.

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People often call me Coop or Cooper...I just want to be called Ryan, damn it.

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Hmmm...John Wayne Gacy...Lee Harvey Oswald...Mark David Chapman...

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This may also describe why I go by Ryan Dean Cooper.

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This is just one person thinking [referring to Celtic]
what about everyone else? what if they want it?
Just because your obnoxious means nothing.

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Wait...I'm being obnoxious by giving evidence as to why it *shouldn't* be in the game? Don't you think that you're the one that is being obnoxious be A) insulting me, B) asking for something that takes resources, money, and time away from things that need it more (eg: bugs, powers, content)?

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I was looking for a cool, simple way to get Isolator badge for those that don't have it. Didn't expect to see resistance to the idea. However there's a comic-book explanation for everything right?

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Not really, because that would mean that the Lost which are sending the drug have to increase their supply, and that isn't happening in CoV yet.

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Because the hero did nothing the first time through the drug made it's way into the watersupply contaminating even more civilians!

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Also, if there's an outbreak, wouldn't they just send in the currect heroes to take them on? It'd be faster to send in someone that could take out all of them in a matter of minutes than a to send them back in time to an issue in the present.

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Because the hero failed to take care of the contamination the first time, Ms Liberty felt it was right to give the hero this one opportunity to correct their mistake personally!

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The water supply? I can dig that.

The correcting of a mistake? Now you're just being insulted by Statesman's grand daughter. Why would her grand father give you the medal 'Hero of the City' if you made a mistake causing so many people such strife?

My answer to this is no. It's one simple badge that, as a person playing since beta, I can say is not important at all. My badge [censored] of a character doesn't have it, and if I could get it, I wouldn't plan on wearing it either.

Simply put, it's more time and effort put into something that is not needed.

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So, the hero is not sent to the exact point he left, but a short time later when their numbers had grown significantly enough to cause the zone to be overrun in the future.

Feel better now?

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Not really, because that would mean that the Lost which are sending the drug have to increase their supply, and that isn't happening in CoV yet.

Also, if there's an outbreak, wouldn't they just send in the currect heroes to take them on? It'd be faster to send in someone that could take out all of them in a matter of minutes than a to send them back in time to an issue in the present.

So...the contaminated are overunning that part of the city in the present? And you want to use a time-travelling device to send a hero to the past, yet in the past, the enemies were still at a normal level...


Can you say "plot hole"?

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Never felt that this was the case, as Manticore actually does seem to be a "Follow the Rules" kind of guy, most of the time. He only breaks the rules only when his deep personal convictions get in the way.

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Oddly, I never got that impression. From his info (which is, admittedly, ambiguous), I thought that he was the loner who does things His Way. The comics portrayals certainly don't help.

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I dunno, maybe it was Hickman's arc that made me think of him this way. He seemed like a nice, law-abiding guy in Issues 4-6.

HICKMAAAN, where is he, dammit? *shields his eyes and looks around*

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Manticore is a man who thinks justice should be handled differently for different people.

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...Firm believers in the notion that the ends justify the means...

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...the dark arm of Manticore’s crusade for justice...

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While firmly on the side of good, Manticore’s own past has given him a different perspective on the nature of evil. After watching Protean murder his parents in cold blood, Manticore became convinced that there are times when evil must be confronted in a way they can understand, with cold, calculating force.

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This is why I'm known as Manticore's #1 Fan.

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I blame Mind Control, or Manticore is just an idiot. Of course, I think Manticore is an idiot anyways so I'm biased.

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I'LL [censored] KILL YOU!

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Thank Manticore for the cool mythology....



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Thanks, Manticore.

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No-one seems to have pointed it out publicly yet, probably because it just went online yesterday, but Comic #10 is up.

Now, page 6. I ask you, my fellow Co*-ites, [censored]? Am I just misunderstanding panel 3 on page 6? That's Numina talking, not Sister Psyche!

Also, page 13. Breasts don't look like that. Especially Swan's. That poor girl appears to be rather bizarrely deformed. I mean, yay for the Vindicators finally showing up, but that panel's got problems.

All in all? 3/5

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I agree with you on all the topics.

And I hope Manticore dies.
Don't tell Celtic I said that though.
Or don't tell Manticore.
Or Statesman.
Or any Dev.
Crap.
I'm screwed.

I should edit the post while I can.
But I'm too stupid too.
<Insert DOOOOOM!™ cry here>

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What...what the [censored] is this?!

Do you *want* me to [censored] kill you?

I'll [censored] kill you.

[censored]! I'M-A-GONNA KILL YOU!

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Don't worry I'm still around.
Thanks for the holiday wishes.

Cheers,

~M

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And way to totally blow off and ignore Celtic.



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It was enough to see him post from a 2 months and 10 day absence.

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Don't bother, Manticore a damn dirty teamkiller....

Just when you drop your guard..... BAM! An arrow in your chest. Or back. Or an enema arrow. Or if you're unlucky, an enema arrow while he's plugging his new book.

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Damn your blasphemous words!

May you get shot with a thousand enema arrows from the Bow of the Exalted!