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Liquid...no mention of me in there? I'm shocked.

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well i see that i have drawn you out too lol

and that ur the # 1 manticore fanboy.... i assume that u have his location for my villian to defeat him :P

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I could tell you, but then our little game of "hide the banana" would be over...and I never want that game over.

*curls up near Manticore and purrs*

Liquid...no mention of me in there? I'm shocked.

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Hammy B-day Celt

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Thanks

*sits in his throne, and looks about a long table with people sitting around, awaiting his instructions*

Celtic: Men, what we have here is an epidemic. There is chaos in the streets, chaos below our feet, and chaos coming from the skies. We need a way to stop it once...and forever.

LiquidX: Sir! I know of a way to stop them all, but first I'll need a 10 million dollar grant, five interns (three Chinese), and 10-year.

*Celtic glares at Liquid, raises his hand, and snaps. Catwhoorg suddenly throws Liquid out of the room, into the depths of space.*

Lady Athyna: Sir! My idea is quite a bit better than that.

Celtic: ...Go on...

*Lady Athyna raises her hand with a card in it*
Lady Athyna: What I have here is the keycard to the Orbital Laser Platform...

Celtic: ...Do it.

Right on, Sweet Thang.

Here's Paddy Whacked.

Here he is from the back.

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BRB = MOB - attacks - knockback resist + 100% dam resist

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Which I like...

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That was pretty much my reaction, too.

All the physics are client side only, and no information about them is passed from client to server -- so, it's strictly a visual on your machine. That means, there is no way for people to play volleyball, or kickball. We could put one in that only you, the player, would see, but I imagine that isn't what everyone would like.

Sorry, folks.

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At this point, you cannot stop the momentum with your sorry's and your high-falutin clientside physics jibber-jabber!

Seriously, though, I get it and accept it. You can make the ouchie feel better by making a couple of 'red ball' emotes: <ul type="square">[*]one using the snowball animation[*]one with the two-handed forward lunge (re: Power Blast) so we can fake a four-square match.[/list]Both must have that special red rubber ball sound. Must!

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Clintonian, I love you.

*Pushes aside Manticore and curls up near Clint*

Raise a pint to the ball!

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I just went over everything in this thread, and I have to say that all doubts I may have had about the CoX community are long gone.

The folks here have done an amazing job with the characters, and I want to put it out there that Rox, Daven, Celtic, and Gill have made me want to pick up animating again. Thank you!

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Wait.....you made yourself wanna animate. LOL I'm so confused.

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I guess I should've said Celtic Bolt.

I just went over everything in this thread, and I have to say that all doubts I may have had about the CoX community are long gone.

The folks here have done an amazing job with the characters, and I want to put it out there that Rox, Daven, Celtic, and Gill have made me want to pick up animating again. Thank you!

Oh thank God...this is going to be much more helpful.

God Wills Ball!

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Go to Amazon.com guys you can see the real cover there. I'm looking forward to this, I was a bit Disappointed with Web of Arachnos...mainly because of the writing style....but I think this one will be a much better read.

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Oh, good. The real cover is a ZILLION times better.

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Although Manticore looks like he runs REALLY painfully.

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*whistles innocently while walking away*

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Can I ask something, seriously? No arguing, no flaming each other for replies, just a legit question.

Is all the pro/anti bickering/arguing really solving anything?

The pro's got what they want, the anti's at least have the satisfaction that it's going to be a bigger pain in the nads to get than illusionist... this has become a:

"Things not to discuss at dinner parties, religion, politics, abortion and Isolator."

You're NOT going to convince each other. So... aside from buffing post count and wanting to get your oppinion out is there a NEED for the bickering?

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Nope...that's why I've repeatedly said to let the topic die, and that the topic is dead.

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Now you’re finally starting to catch on LiquidX – I knew you were a reasonably bright person. Maybe had the Devs not been stupid enough to implement a badge that was only earnable in a place that the current playerbase at the start of I2 couldn’t even get to we wouldn’t even have had an Isolator problem in the first place…

Nothing was set in stone that -required- Isolator to be limited to Outbreak in the beginning or ever for that matter as RV Isolator has proven...

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Except for the fact that it was intended as an easter egg, as stated before. This isn't a case of the Dev's being stupid, or lack of foresight, or anything else... This is a case of certain people blowing the whole thing way out of proportion, and twisting it into something they can take offense out of.

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If you take your Easter Egg argument to its natural conclusion, all badges are Easter Eggs. Where in the game does it even talk about earning any of them at all?

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In the tab under you NAV bar labeled "Badges"...

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And that tab tells you what to do to start earning them how exactly?

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"Earn this badge by healing your teammates"
"Earn this badge by defeating Skull bosses"
"Earn this badge by defeating Tsoo Sorcerers"
"Taking out those pesky creatures will earn you The Mongoose badge"

Want me to continue?

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No your proved my point... Badges -aren't- Easter Eggs. If you followed LiquidXs assertion you'd have to argue that...

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No...I proved that THOSE badges are not Easter Eggs. Isolator has absolutely no bar, no progress confirmation, and no hint that it is in the game. Therefore, it is an Easter Egg.

Likewise, Jail Bird has no hint towards it being in the game...it doesn't even have an Exploration badge symbol, and thus, it is also an Easter Egg.

[/ QUOTE ] So by your logic a vast subset of badges are Easter Eggs? (Easter Egg = badge with no progress bar or entry in the badge tab?) Define them how you will... but to be clear I don't consider any badge in this game to be an Easter Egg and thus don't think any of them are justified to be limited by location based on 'Easter Egg ness'.

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Yes, I consider all Gladiator badges to be gifts/Easter Eggs, Jail Bird to be an Easter Egg, and Isolator to be an Easter Egg.

If you don't view any of the badges as Easter Eggs, then I don't know what to say other than we have to agree to disagree.

Isolator is in the game for anyone who doesn't have it, but has already made a character. You don't have to like how it is in the game, but it is in there never-the-less, and it is in there as Positron said it would be (annoying and irritating to get).

The topic is dead.

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Now you’re finally starting to catch on LiquidX – I knew you were a reasonably bright person. Maybe had the Devs not been stupid enough to implement a badge that was only earnable in a place that the current playerbase at the start of I2 couldn’t even get to we wouldn’t even have had an Isolator problem in the first place…

Nothing was set in stone that -required- Isolator to be limited to Outbreak in the beginning or ever for that matter as RV Isolator has proven...

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Except for the fact that it was intended as an easter egg, as stated before. This isn't a case of the Dev's being stupid, or lack of foresight, or anything else... This is a case of certain people blowing the whole thing way out of proportion, and twisting it into something they can take offense out of.

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If you take your Easter Egg argument to its natural conclusion, all badges are Easter Eggs. Where in the game does it even talk about earning any of them at all?

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In the tab under you NAV bar labeled "Badges"...

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And that tab tells you what to do to start earning them how exactly?

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"Earn this badge by healing your teammates"
"Earn this badge by defeating Skull bosses"
"Earn this badge by defeating Tsoo Sorcerers"
"Taking out those pesky creatures will earn you The Mongoose badge"

Want me to continue?

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No your proved my point... Badges -aren't- Easter Eggs. If you followed LiquidXs assertion you'd have to argue that...

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No...I proved that THOSE badges are not Easter Eggs. Isolator has absolutely no bar, no progress confirmation, and no hint that it is in the game. Therefore, it is an Easter Egg.

Likewise, Jail Bird has no hint towards it being in the game...it doesn't even have an Exploration badge symbol, and thus, it is also an Easter Egg.

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Now you’re finally starting to catch on LiquidX – I knew you were a reasonably bright person. Maybe had the Devs not been stupid enough to implement a badge that was only earnable in a place that the current playerbase at the start of I2 couldn’t even get to we wouldn’t even have had an Isolator problem in the first place…

Nothing was set in stone that -required- Isolator to be limited to Outbreak in the beginning or ever for that matter as RV Isolator has proven...

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Except for the fact that it was intended as an easter egg, as stated before. This isn't a case of the Dev's being stupid, or lack of foresight, or anything else... This is a case of certain people blowing the whole thing way out of proportion, and twisting it into something they can take offense out of.

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If you take your Easter Egg argument to its natural conclusion, all badges are Easter Eggs. Where in the game does it even talk about earning any of them at all?

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In the tab under you NAV bar labeled "Badges"...

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And that tab tells you what to do to start earning them how exactly?

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"Earn this badge by healing your teammates"
"Earn this badge by defeating Skull bosses"
"Earn this badge by defeating Tsoo Sorcerers"
"Taking out those pesky creatures will earn you The Mongoose badge"

Want me to continue?

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Now you’re finally starting to catch on LiquidX – I knew you were a reasonably bright person. Maybe had the Devs not been stupid enough to implement a badge that was only earnable in a place that the current playerbase at the start of I2 couldn’t even get to we wouldn’t even have had an Isolator problem in the first place…

Nothing was set in stone that -required- Isolator to be limited to Outbreak in the beginning or ever for that matter as RV Isolator has proven...

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Except for the fact that it was intended as an easter egg, as stated before. This isn't a case of the Dev's being stupid, or lack of foresight, or anything else... This is a case of certain people blowing the whole thing way out of proportion, and twisting it into something they can take offense out of.

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If you take your Easter Egg argument to its natural conclusion, all badges are Easter Eggs. Where in the game does it even talk about earning any of them at all?

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In the tab under you NAV bar labeled "Badges"...

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Those people who had toons pre-I2, as has been stated many times, could have re-rolled. Their choice not to, but still the complaints come in. They made a choice not to re-roll for a badge which, by the complaints, is obviously of game-breaking importance to them. The devs are offering that badge now, but making it difficult. Big deal. Like I said, no sympathy at all for them. If they truly thought it was that big a deal they would have re-rolled.

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Yes pre-I2 toons "could have re-rolled", so from that point of view I've never had much sympathy for Isolator whiners either.

But I think the point you've missed is -why- were pre-I2 toon players forced to even make that choice?
Why were they barred from a badge simply because they were in the game prior to badges being introduced?
What good purpose did it end up serving that couldn't otherwise have been easily avoided by the Devs?
Why did the Devs take so long to give us a fix that amounts to a big 'screw you' to the player base?

The only big deal I've ever had was the real answers to these questions... And I'm still waiting...

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The game didn't keep track of who took out 100 isolators at the time, so it would have either been impossible to find out who "deserved" the badge, and who just earned it for making the character before issue 2, or hard as hell.

And even if the game did keep track, Positron has stated that datamining is very time consuming to do.

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As for the villains wanting another pop at Jail Bird - everyone knew about Jail Bird when CoV went live. The badge had been in there during Beta... I wasn't even involved in any part of the beta testing, and knew where it was. On day 1 of the CoV public release I got the badge. This makes the Jail Bird example a load of crap - it was available for months before the game even went live.

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Everyone knew about Jailbird? Where's your indication that badges even exist in the CoV tutorial for those people who had never played CoH, but thought being a Villain sounded cool?

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Because your not supposed to know the badge is there. They are "Easter Eggs", intended to reward those willing to explore (In CoV) or crazy enough to see what happens if you whack 100 contaminated (In CoH). So, much like the law, ignorance of the badges is not a good excuse.

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No one knew that thier was a tutorial badge in break out durring cov beta, my geuss is that everyone assumed it diddnt exist at the time like isolator.

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Just because you didn't know does not mean that nobody knew. I knew, and I'm sure a few others knew as well.

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Fell behind schedual eh?

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Which is ironic when looking at his three laws of writing...

Thanks, Artic!

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Yes, I know where she is IN game. But I hadn't seen the dev War Witch in quite a while. Sorry about the mixup

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You haven't seen War Witch? Well I haven't seen Manticore or Capt. Mako! How do you think this makes me feel?!

Isn't he that English transvestite comedian?