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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by the_fox_Rox View Post
    that would be perfect for sister but she is on another server...>_> mayhaps hitomi
    They're other servers????
  2. Video 1 - Chick is cute, and there's a dog that walks past at the end, so ok, sure

    Video 2 - Dude was lame, wasn't funny, and really needs some cardio work if he can't dance for 30 seconds without being winded.

    Video 3 - Sorry, unless you're dancing in public you really didn't deserve to make the cut this week - Sorry, but you lose!
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
    That's never been how the new operates and this type of stuff DOES influence peoples' lives. Comic, music, movie, etc is culture and are important and are part of what is happening and effecting the people and events around us.
    Sorry but the News once was actually about news and not just pushing agendas. Not to say agendas didn't have some influence, whenever people are involved of course there will be, but there once was a goal and ideal of impartiality, something which all but has ceased to exist...

    As for entertainment, it can of course influence lives and culture. However, I would argue that the race if an alternative world Spider-Man is more reflective of culture than changing of it... Now change the Real Spider-Man and stick with the change, make a major superhero a man of color that everyone can love and look up to... Mow that would have a chance if changing things if that happened... But an Ultimate Spidey who's staying power us highly doubtful? Not so much, and to me, not worthy of national news...
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
    It's more important than most of the news the news organizations report on as Spider-Man is part of the American mythos and as such is important.
    Ok, but that too is kind of the point... The news should really go back to being news and not all agenda based partisan bickering. Cover issues. Investigate stuff. Talk about stuff that REALLY matters, that REALLY influences peoples lives, their living conditions...

    *sigh*

    Then again, I doubt most of the viewing public has the attention span to handle real news anymore anyway.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    While I'm sure Lou Dobbs' probably had an overreacting rant, I find Jon Stewarts statement to be pretty stupid as well.

    "And still fictional"

    Well duh.

    So obviously because it's fiction people should be okay with every and all changes made to the fictional media they care to partake in.

    I think the point is that it probably not a big enough deal to not only make it onto national news but also to be something one of the main talking heads needs to rant on about...

    Really, doe sthis change to an alternate version of Spider-Man really qualify as news? Isn't this what the Entertainment News shows are for?
  6. Really? If they try to have her Selina Kyle but not Catwoman that'll be just stupid enough to keep me at home.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suichiro View Post
    For considering yourselves "nice" folks...

    I've never really considered myself very nice.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
    In a way, I think this hits the nail on the head in terms of how I feel about this contest.
    I think the voting in general tends to be capricious. There is always an element of popularity contest going into it, but even worse is the tendency to vote for things out of...I don't know..novelty?
    Because they're fun or lighthearted?
    Often in spite of how the thing was actually executed. In some ways I think a polished execution has actually been a detriment to succeeding.
    Ok, here I think we may have a legitimate difference of opinion. I think the art, no matter how well executed, needs to be targeted at the audience in order to have that certain appeal that garners attention and votes. Yes, sometimes it will be T&A, others a sense of whimsey, others just a recognizable anchor to the source material - the game. I personally don't care how amazing art submitted to this contest is, if it doesn't also have another appeal it's probably not getting my vote...

    So yeah, I totally think a piece less technically correct, even far less so, should win over a marvelous art piece which doesn't immediately scream CoH or such. Because I don't think this is an "Art Contest" but rather a "Fan Art Contest". As such, my view is that the "Fan" part is pretty important.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
    You said you voted purely on the art and didn't read the trailers.
    Why? That was part of the competition. I lost by one point.
    If you had read the trailers and voted on them as well maybe I woul'dve picked up a point or two.
    Couple reasons. 1) I am lazy. 2) I've only been half paying attention to the contest anyway and never saw that we were technically supposed to use the written portion until after I cast my vote. If I had noticed I may have obstained, or argued or something as I don't think a written portion is exactly fair since there is no rule that all competitors need be native English speakers and thus forcing a part of the contest to be in what may not be someones native tongue seems unjust... Specially since written entries are barred from competition the rest of the time.

    Once I did see that pointed out, I made it clear that I ignored that part so that my vote could be voided if deemed invalid.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
    Regardless, I spent a lot of time and thought on my trailer. I actually wrote the trailer first in the hopes that I could refer to it while I was working on the painting so that they would share the same sort of vibe.
    I spent a day just writing the trailer. How would you feel if you were in a cooking competition and the judge came up and scraped some of your food into the garbage without even tasting it?
    I'm not blaming you for the loss, but it's indicative of the frustration I've felt watching these entries fail.
    I get your point... Kind of (but not quite) like last year when they decided written entries didn't qualify the month after I submitted one and thus barred that avenue from me.

    Anyway, it's the problem with the whole "whoever wanders by judges" system. Nobody feels very compelled to uphold any kind of judging standard or the like, nobody is worried about the integrity of the contest... They just vote on what appeals to them based on whatever criteria they decide. There's no way to stop that with the current judging system...

    But that, I think, becomes part of the contest. I think part of the art is not just the technical, the talent, but the mental... In getting a feel for the audience and what appeals to them, on what they are looking for.

    And unless someone is looking to be a broke, starving artist with their integrity 100% in tact, I don't want to hear that n artist shouldn't have to cater... Of course they should. Specially if they are trying to make a buck or win a contest.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
    Go back and look at February's winners. Lousy's entry was the overwhelming winner. That's a joke. Lousy is a good artist and I don't doubt that he could win a contest like this, but it shouldn't be for something like that.
    I talked to him in Siren's Call shortly before that deadline. He hadn't started his entry and wasn't even sure he was going to continue. He threw that sketch together at the last minute to stay in the running.
    But I think people looked at it and thought "Wow how cool would it be to have snow in the game!" and voted it the win.
    Despite the fact that it was clearly a sketch and had virtually no detail in it whatsoever.
    Sorry, too lazy to go back and find the thread but I get your point anyway... Again, I do not think it's all about the art, I really think a contest like this is hugely about the Fan portion, the subject matter portion... And I think if an artist is unwilling to concede to that to some extent then they probably don't have much chance of winning.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
    I think Dee Dee did a good job on her entry, but since it beat mine by the whole early bird mechanic I think it deserves comment.
    First of all, it's a photomanipulation. You can see the figure ref here: http://www.wallpaperweb.org/wallpape...90719_0028.jpg

    I don't know if Dee simply used it as ref or did some sort of paint-over directly on the source image.
    The background looks "raw". Like the sky and the burnt-out buildings were directly taken from another source. I also used some stock reference in my picture, which is linked to the stock provider on my page, but everything is painted.
    There is no direct manipulation of other people's images.

    She was well within her rights to do so, as Bubba's rules allow for photomanipulation.
    But my problem with the voting is that I don't think people are taking that into consideration.
    I think a lot of people are viewing this image as if she had sat down and sketched it out herself.
    And in terms of the whole early bird thing--yeah it's a lot easier to get work done quickly when you're dealing with pre-existing imagery.
    Again I'm not trying to disparage her or her entry, but it beat mine by a game mechanic that favors things being done quickly.
    I started on mine as soon as I found out the theme for the month, it simply took that long for me to research and settle on a poster design and then paint it.
    I'm not a fan of the early bird points but then again I'm not competing so *shrug*. The rule was in place and known before this month so by competing, in my opinion, one agreed to the rule and as such doesn't have much a leg to stand on complaining after the fact. Them's the breaks.

    I say similiarly about the photomanip, if it was such. Personally I think if the written word doesn't qualify as art for the contest, neither should screenshots or (maybe, I am on the fence about) photomanips - specially if its the majority of the piece. But again, they've been allowed from the start so *shrug*

    Not to say I disregard your thoughts here entirely though. I totally get where you are coming from but, as I think I stated last year during a similair row, the point kind of loses a lot of it's strength when it's not brought up before the results...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
    Thanks, but I think there's been strong indication that I'm barking up the wrong tree here. Part of it is also I'm tired. I spent a solid week on the entry this month and had eyestrain at the end of it.
    At that point I pretty much decided that if it didn't win, I couldn't keep sustaining that level of effort and keep rolling the dice on the voting.
    And I am truly sorry to see you leave the contest. Personally I had you as one of two likeliest to win the whole shebang.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
    Now I feel awful. If it weren't for the additional factor of the 'trailer description' borking things up, the voting might have gone very differently. I'm really, really sorry if that caused problems for the artists - I just offered to contribute something in the hopes that more people would take notice of the work you guys do.

    Michelle
    aka
    Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
    You have nothing to feel awful about... It's not a FArt contest until there is a big bruhaha over one controversy or another so *shrug*

    Besides, your offer was supremely generous and was not the cause of the controversy... Really it's more about early bird points, how individuals decide to judge, and why individuals compete than it is about trailers....



    By the way, since I fear I forgot to state this earlier, and since it really should be the point now and not this extraneous stuff....

    CONGRATULATIONS
    DARTHDELICIOUS!!!
  9. Yeah! Anyone who doesn't agree with Suichiro is obviously an illiterate, boob obsessed moron who doesn't know a thing about art! And don't give any crap about differing tastes or opinions being valid, that's just proof you're a moron!!
  10. For all the faults I have personally found with the contest this year, I do not think it being a popularity contest was in the top 80%.

    I think if anything this year has shown that humor, fun and light heartedness can really be rewarded even if the piece lacks technical precision or even real talent.

    I think this year has also shown that people can come out of the blue and really make an impact on the results.

    I ALSO think there were just 4 people left before this latest departure... And that it was easily anyone's title to capture. I don't believe winning a previous month gives anyone an advantage on winning the last month, and really winning the last month is all that matters. (ok, getting there matters to but... Well hell, you can't get there is you kick yourself out. *shrug*)


    Anyway, whatever.... Sorry to see you exit BW, I think you were definitely amongst the most consistantly solid entries each and every month. I think you would have had a better than even chance of winning if you had stayed in but one must do what they must, I guess.
  11. Luckily I rated all the trailer outlines equal... So the fact I voted based solely on the art doesn't matter! (Having read none of the trailers, I find them all equally magnificent.)
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sapphic_Neko View Post
    You mean spanking?
    When you're involved, I think spanking is always a safe bet!
  13. Probably true... but then it would be all about the monkey's!
  14. Based purely on the art...

    1 Darth
    2 Syrusb
    3 BW

    As to what order I'd want to see the movies in, that's a different story! :P
  15. So.... Are we in the mood tonight???

  16. Full sized image will be up on me DA page... soonishly.
  17. Why for did you make Amerikatt yarn doll then blow it up with a Ritki dropship???
  18. What for your wanting to blow up Amerikatt with a Ritki spaceship? What Amerikatt ever do to you??????
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheJazMan View Post
    How do you change your log in screen?? I hate the ancient ones we have now. I'd love to use almost anything else!
    Honestly, I do not know. My comp came with it like that.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mellissandria View Post
    I can has log in screen?

    I wouldn't get in trouble for it?
    Once again, I really don't know if it violates something or not My comp came with CoH and that log in installed direct from the manufacturer....
  20. Caemgen

    Black Radiance

    I'm Caemgen, and I approve of that artwork! :P


    (Dunno, guess I'm looking forward to 2012 campaign ads?)
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by OminousVoice View Post
    If any one else has custom login screens, share 'em cause I'd like to see 'em.



    Was made for me by someone from artwork I commissioned from Androsm...
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShadowWings View Post
    I'd rather have a random villain be duking it out with Statesman (or a random hero) then have some fetish splash screen..

    That is Just. Plain. Wrong.

    I most definitely support the idea of Minx/bobcat fetish material anywhere they wish to put it!!
  23. Trailer looks pretty cool to me...

    Does it look like the exact same thing as I remember from comics back in the day? Nope.

    Good! Because I have been there and done that. I have absolutely no problem with a new take on the old story as long as it's good... And this looks like it has the potential to be interesting and entertaining, thus good.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarthDelicious View Post
    *agrees with Caemgen*
    All the smart people do!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Amerikatt View Post
    (*agrees with Caemgen and Miss DeeDee!*)

    And all the cutest, bravest, most intelligent kitties do!!