Blpup

Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg

I don't see how paying for the IOs makes them free but maybe I'm old-fashioned.

Originally Posted by Lohenien

This is a nice simple concept to IO toons for free:

Find the IO you want and then look up it's recipe. Let's say you pick something that costs 20 million crafted and say 8 million for the recipe. With salvage thrown in the IO costs say, 11 million.

Next, bid on 10 of the recipes and 10 of each of the salvage ( should total 110 million in this example). Come back later that day or the next day ( or when ever they all fill) and craft all 10 of the IOs. Now sell 9 of the IOs for 14,xxx,xxx so that any bids at 15 million or higher should buy your IO. 9 x 15 = 135 million, 135 - 13.5 = 121 million influence. 121 - 110 = 11 million profit PLUS the IO you saved for yourself. ( note any sales above 15 million that you get would be even more profit).

Using this method you can get most of your IOs for free and even make influence on top of that to eventually buy the ones that don't have huge margins between crafted and recipe.

Originally Posted by DarkJack

Is it worthwhile to slot damage procs (ex: Eradication: change for energy damage) or other procs (ex: energy manipulator: chance to stun) into damage fields like lightning field? I thought I heard somewhere that they only have a chance to proc every ten seconds? I have damage procs in my /traps MM's caltrops and poison trap and they work well.

As a side note, is there a good resource to look up this kind of thing? I didn't see any details like this on paragonwiki. For example, I'm interested in what causes Performance shifter: chance for +end to proc.

Thanks,

-DJ

Originally Posted by McBoo

That was sarcasm Blpup, NCSoft is a 10 year old company with several games under it's belt so I can't see them not doing the needful when it comes to insuring the success of one of their properties. Also bear in mind that CoX still has the core development team that has been here since the beginning and have always proven that they are willing to work hard to make the game fun and successful.


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Originally Posted by Steampunkette

Heh. Don't worry about that! The only things stored on your computer will be the updated textures, some character models, the new music, and other "Resources"

All the maps, mission text, contacts, and other huge tracts of data will be stored on the server side. That's what it's for.

-Rachel-

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

... and even then, realize you're not seeing all subscribers, or even all people online. (For instance, I'll be in full hide while in a PVP zone, and may forget to take it off. I have friends who are subscribed, but haven't been on in a bit due to, say, one year old children and new work schedules.)

Even for all the work, you're not going to get an accurate picture.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

GR is not "half out." People that prepurchased have two of the powersets coming out. They do not have that first incarnate slot, they cannot start praetorians, they cannot run any praetorian content, they cannot switch sides, etc, etc, etc.

GR is maybe - *maybe* - "5% out. " And that only for prepurchasers.

Originally Posted by PumBumbler

lol @ GM_Lloyd's search comment.

Best way to show d000m is by grabbing numbers from this thread.

Advertising and marketing suggestions probably best viewed here.

Originally Posted by McBoo

One would hazard a guess that NCSoft is already doing this and making decisions about things like advertising, new patches, expansions, possibly an engine upgrade, etc. based on what they find.


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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn

GR will increase game population, especially in the sense that people will be in the same area for a while, trying to do the same content.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

Very well, helpful suggestions:

Prove that population is declining. This would require months of study, with samples taken at varying time in the day.

Revisit your assumption that population is declining when you find you cannot prove said assumption.

Prove that advertising will bring in more population. Do a study or some analysis and try to prove that advertising is a more cost effective way of bringing in population than spending resources on a new boxed expansion that will be advertised by game stores.

This one's a suggestion just for you, so that you'll be taken more seriously: Get an education. Use proper punctuation and grammar. Spell correctly. Don't come in here with an attitude that you are right and everyone who questions your opinion and assumptions are wrong.

Originally Posted by McBoo

You would be better served to check the numbers during a more classically busy time for every day over the next quarter to verify if there really is a downward trend or if it's just one man's perspective. You also might take into consideration that Freedom will always have a larger population because of the fact that it was the original test server from when CoH was in beta therefore a large percentage of the veterans will be playing primarily on that server. The numbers that you have presented thus far even support the idea that Freedom would probably be a better choice for sampling.

Also bear in mind that CoV has had an effect on the population as folks will be playing red side, which is still viable population for the game.


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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn

Useless data is useless. Not only are some of the lists truncated, you give us no mention of what times these were taken, both in terms of the day and the calendar.

Also, you have two points of 'proof':

1) Level 50s don't stand around in Atlas any more.

2) Can't find teams easily in the Hollows.



To counter point 1:

There is more for level 50s to do now, not only at level 50, but also in Ouroborus at any level, and the fact that exemped level 50s retain more of their powers, so they're more useful at lower levels. Add to that the desire to get merits for IO rolls, and more of them are likely on Task Forces.

Also, before IOs, there was VERY little to do with your influence on your 50s other than give it to lowbies. As such, costume contests were much more frequent, since it was a good way to give a useless currency to somebody that could find it useful.


To counter point 2:

The Hollows were seen for a long time as the only place to go for the level 5-15 level range. Now, with radio missions, the ninja pack making low-level travel easier, and the fact that the Hollows just got old to many people, you don't find as many people there. Also, while much of this game is instanced, a lot of the missions in the Hollows were not, which led to more people in the zone being out for you to see. In other zones, there are less hunt missions (usually), so more people are "indoors."

Spread out population + more of the population indoors = worse chance of finding a team by broadcasting.



Again, NOBODY is here saying that they shouldn't advertise more. However, basing that desire off of shaky facts and opinions doesn't make your point stronger. It makes it weaker.

IF you had come here and just said that you think that NCSoft should advertise the game more, you'd have likely gotten no challenge to that. But basing it off of population, which you have no idea of, or the player's desire to stay or join the game, means that you then have to defend that assumption, which you can't do.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

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Originally Posted by McBoo

What day was this?

What time of day was it?

What other things were going on outside of the game that could explain the lower numbers? *cough*World Cup*cough*

Are you basing your numbers on a sample from a single day or a group of samples over a period of 3 or 4 months that supports a downward trend?


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Originally Posted by Nethergoat

what point are you trying to make?

because your numbers are meaningless.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

You just took those pictures now? During off peak hours? While everyone's at work or school?

I happen to see plenty of people hanging out under Atlas when I occasionally fly by.

You are forgetting the large number of vets that are smart enough to hide from searches.

Also, just judging by your general attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you aren't on a lot of ignore lists and have trouble teaming yourself because of your reputation. This is just an assumption, of course.

Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint

then you should have emailed one of the devs or mods. just because this game does not have the numbers of WoW or other MMO's does not mean it is failing. look at the time of year it is. schools getting out, parents taking vacation time and all sorts of other things that affect the population just like during school start up and christmas and every other holiday out there where the pop seems to dip for a little bit.

of course it would help if maybe they fixed the bugs and other problems with the game before going live rather then just pushing things through.

Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint

just because it wouldn't be me if i didn't do this once a week.....

where is your "proof" that the game is loosing people because they don't advertise? while i agree that they should look at doing something, i find your assumption false.

as for where this section belongs, here is good. there is a very good reason why this section is where it is.

Originally Posted by Decorum

**snorts** You quoted a post that was not aimed at you nor mentioned you in any way. You might want to edit that.