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Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt

Oh yeah, also?

Just because you want to use Emps to buy stuff doesn't mean you can't also use Astrals.

By the time you get 25 Emps to buy a glowy armor piece? You can also buy another piece with the 100 Astrals you earned along the way.

So it'd only take 25 days of three trials/day to get the full set of glowy armor.

Originally Posted by TonyV

I'll say it again: long-term content. Plus, once you've put in those 134 days (or 250, or 365, or whatever), you never have to do it again. Not for any of your other characters, ever, period.

Plus, speaking of strawmen, it's not like you have to put in 134 days to see any progress. That's 134 days to completely earn everything, starting immediately after it's added to the game.

For perspective, how long did it take someone immediately after Issue 11 launched to completely "purple out" their character? Keep in mind, a lot of those recipes and/or enhancements didn't show up on the market for a while. And once you were done, how long did it take you to "purple out" your second character?

I'm thinking 134 days, even of constant farming, would have been generous at the time. And, of course, then if you wanted more purples on other characters, that would have been even more time sunk into the system, where as here, it's immediately unlocked.

Plus, I'm not a mechanics guru, but does that 134 days calculation take into account the fact that you can earn both Empyrian and Astral merits during trials, plus any conversions of Shards/Thread/whatevers you earn along the way too? Or is it based on one trial = one and only one reward?

Originally Posted by El_Furioso

Just logged in. Beta Server (Beta Server 01) is wiped. All GR beta characters are gone (at least, on my account).

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

Its faster for me as well. But as I specifically said in that post, what you or I can do is essentially irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

Similarly, saying that the invention system had no barriers to progress is a theoretically true but practically false statement. Which is to say, its obviously possible to reach basically the limits of the invention system through invention slotting: people have done it. I've done it. But I suspect you'll find if you datamine the players, the vast majority of the players have never done that, or come close to doing that. The effort is simply too high: its outside what they consider to be reasonable. So they progress only so far, and no farther - if at all. Does this mean the invention system is flawed, because the vast majority of players never see or partake of its full potential? Some might say yes, but the devs disagree: its an optional avenue of progress, so its working as intended if everyone decides to tap it to a different extent.

Originally Posted by LISAR

*shrug* Was this bug recently added?

Originally Posted by LISAR

I've never noticed lag in the BAF myself, not sure why you think something being fixed hampers everyone just because a developer said it's being fixed.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

I've been having no trouble at all finding teams to do other stuff.

Truth be told, people on my server are getting bored with the Incarnate trials. It's easier to put together a TFC TF than it is a BAF or Lambda right now.

Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood

Or you could do both at once and accept a slower rate. Run the trials and use the components to get incarnate powers and use the merits to buy other stuff.

Originally Posted by Arilou

But they don't actually do that. You NEVER get bupkiss at the end. (At absolute worst you'll get 10 threads, half a common, and that's the "You were AFK for most of the trial weren't you?" consolation prize, I've never gotten it on any of my chars, including the MM) They have offered a slow but steady (albeit time-gated) path via empyreal merits *for that very reason*.

Which btw. I think is one of the lessons the devs have learned that's a good thing: You'll always get *something*.

Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

Really? Then why did it take me an hour to get a treespec going at 7 pm? Organizing a WST is pretty easy when a popular TF is WST. If you're trying to organize a redside WST, it's often not so easy.

Originally Posted by SinisterDirge

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Trust me I know this. When I am playing at off peak times, which is most of the time actually, I solo tips or whatever and keep an eye on the channels to see if a trial is starting up.



Possibly, although I cant wait to see the boarding party from victory and freedom crash an ITF on justice.

Why not just allow the LFG que to pull you out of an instance if you choose so you dont have to stand around outside waiting for the league to fill.



Agreed. There isn't a carrot big enough to get me to wait around outside and do nothing while waiting for the league to fill.

Originally Posted by docbuzzard

I have to agree, I don't much care for how the current LFG system works, and I don't really see the i20.5 changes fixing it. It would be nice if you could do something else instead of waiting around for a trial to happen. The amount of time I have burned standing around in Pocket D with my thumb up my butt hoping for the trial I want (like Lambda over BAF) is rather larger than I like.

If it could yank you out of a mission, that would be nice. You could at least get something done instead of just waiting. I wonder if there's a technical issue to it or something?

Originally Posted by Mr. DJ

Don't think he was implying that for every server.

Originally Posted by SinisterDirge

One of the reasons why I love the trials is that they can be done easily in less that 45 mins. Right around the time it takes my sons to nap. Fancy that.

Originally Posted by Clouded

I can haz RAM? I'm running 2 GB on my laptop with intergrated video. It's so awesome!

Originally Posted by Chaos Creator

Oddly I'm more impressed that you have 8 accounts than that you can log all 8 in.

Originally Posted by MTS

If the component conversion costs are any indication, I think you'll find that the rate of transfer will be so incredibly inefficient compared to just running the trials on the character you want to progress, that no one will seriously use it. i.e. the progress you get from converting another character's merits is so glacially slow that it's only a "last resort" use for extra merits once you already have everything else you could possibly want to spend them on.

I mean like in the 1 Astral to 1 Thread, 1 Empyrean to 5 Thread range. With as punishing as all the other incarnate-related conversions are, I just can't see them going with anything more than that.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

But isn't that what people already do? Like they mail millions of Inf to their new avatars, or send purple recipes to alts?

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

I don't claim any percentage numbers

But the amount of 50s being played compared to pre-Incarnate times suggests that quite a few people are enjoying what the devs have offered us from I19 onwards

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Thank you, Bladesnow. That's some nice info. I don't experience any crashing during BAF and can generally get through that one bad spot with nothing more than a "oh goody, three minutes of boredom and ugliness" running through my head, but I did not know that this feature had been added to the game.

I will certainly give nuking the buff data a try should I find myself in a BAF again.

Originally Posted by TonyV

Heh, need I point out that TonyV isn't in any particular need of help? I'm the one who's , even . It seems to me that the people who are and are the ones who need to be worried about helping themselves.