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I just think that it shouldn't cost more then $15 for a costume set. And I've bought the 24 pack for over that and only received 4 of the 11 items. I gave it a chance, but as this is obviously based on "luck" other players will obviously have a better advantage if the dice roll in their favor. I like buying things that are absolute when it comes to data items. If it is a real life item that I can touch and resell it is of much more value and use to me. I hate gambling or going on an uncertainty, and this is indeed a gamble. If this develops without change as I predict, then things will get much worse. If ever, two of these packs come out in a month plus costumes, I'm out.
I work 2 part-time jobs because it's all that is available right now, that's with college education. And I get minimum wage. I live on my own and I use 50% of the money left over after bills and food on this, that's $30. The economy simply doesn't have the money to support such a system, nor is it morally correct. Having people get into gambling is not a good idea, but if you're a casino... I guess that's what CoH is becoming. -
Quote:Define gambling: gam·ble (gOriginally Posted by warden_de_dios
What country has a legal code that defines this Super pack system as gambling?
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l)v. gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles
v.intr.1. a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
b. To play a game of chance for stakes.
2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.
3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.
v.tr.1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.
2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.
n.1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.
2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise.
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Quote:It may not be to you. But everyone plays for a different reason. And I'm a girl. I happen to like my clothing choices. To boot, it should -not- be impossible to get all items. I want to be able to make my hero or villain as I see fit. So yes. It -is- a deep part of the game. And yah, a lot of people want certain items, so it still has merit. We should get what we want.Originally Posted by Tyger42
First, the point of the game is most certainly NOT to have all the costume pieces. Seriously, that statement is just plain idiotic.
What is with people getting so offended by a BUSINESS offering a purely optional but desirable product to entice people to spend their money? The whole point of a business is to do just that, you know. Welcome to this little thing we call "capitalism".
Also: Business Offering? Are you kidding me? This is a -game- Why do I want to spend $100 a month on something like this? I think you need a trip to reality
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Quote:Not true. As stated, do your researchOriginally Posted by Dark Energon
Well, if NCsoft doesn't make a profit, they'll have to start with cutting personnel, and if that doesn't help, the end of this great game will be in sight.
A company that only gives gives and gives, will never last long.
Again as a mentioned, i 'bought' 8 packs with the Points THEY gave me, so i didn't spend any cash on Points or the packs at all, yet i have almost the entire costume set. You have no idea how much money they're actually making, which is quite a bit. As I've said. I've seen this before, look at Gaia Online. So don't worry about losing your game due to people losing their jobs
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Quote:This is true. Different countries do have such laws. So before anyone bashes him. Do your research. ^_^Originally Posted by Badaxe
Actually in some states in my country, it's not only unethical it's also illegal.
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Quote:I've seen this before and I don't support the opinion. Because really, look at how much money they are making already off of the VIP players, and there are a lot of them. Not many actually stopped paying that price when the game went free, and they likely gained more when it did go free. To add to that, there is far more content that people have been buying lately then they did before it went free. And, you know. Guild Wars is standing up just fine and it has -no- VIP or subscription fee and only has one or two $10 items a year. With the exception of a few actually useful in-game items like the PvP skill, pet, and item unlock packs. Overall, you don't wind up spending anywhere near as much as you do on this game, and they're -still- able to afford making GW2. So, do your research good sirOriginally Posted by Barabeast
This is one of those topics that will go and go, so while it's here ... here's my 2 cent's.
As player's we believe that all that happens should happen for us and us only. What many of us tend to forget is, this is also a business and should be run as such. Are they aware of the other free2play games that are no longer out there? Of course they are! Have they done their research to find out if they will make more money? Again, business. Many of us have talk about the economic issue's we all face and how we can't afford this, we can't afford that and yet here we are, still buying. That my friends is the American way, it's what we do. Your dollars make this game last as long as it has. The more player base, the more time and effort it takes for this to continue ... which cost. Also, yah. They are making enough money as is without these packs, and people -would- buy them and be -more- inclined to buy them had they been in a set pack for around $10. I know I would, because I would know that I'm getting what I want, not gambling on items I might get. Not to mention could not get any other way.
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Quote:Gotcha ^_^ No offense takenOriginally Posted by Puppycrusader
Ah, I wasn't aiming that at you; sorry for the misunderstanding. You were giving directed
feedback and responses(as are others.) That's a lot different.
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Quote:Lol very true ^_^Originally Posted by Puppycrusader
Though I guess the promo shot on the front page *does* look unfortunatly more like a slot
machine display instead of trading cards. :P I'm not sure that was a good design choice. -
Quote:Well, I like my long-winded opinions. This is who I am. I don't like to be misunderstood, and I like to voice my thoughts however I have them. It wasn't for a sense of satisfaction that I voice my thoughts either. I do not want to give up such a great game, but I do not wish to be a victim again either, nor do I wish to not have the ability to not get every item in the game, which, up until now, has not happened. So, I guess you can dislike me Lol, Everyone's different.Originally Posted by Puppycrusader
It's not confusing. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word, with how often
and quick you are to throw it out in response to everything challenging.
I'm just saying, if you're writing for yourself, you can do that in a text editor locally
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Quote:Actually I have, and I love them. Magic: The Gathering, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, etc. But the difference between them and this? We -cannot- trade for the items. We -have- to obtain all costume pieces ourselves. And even trading items like that in this game is a -highly- discouraging idea. If I spend that much money on a -game- I want my money's worth period. I work, I have a life, I have other options more important to do and spend that much money on. And if you hadn't noticed, as someone made a comment about this actually not making us "morally bankrupt" it is, in fact, "Financially Bankrupt", today's economy doesn't exactly give room for that much money's worth. Most people have part-time jobs or minimum wage. Before I bought these packs I'd spent $35 this month on this game, now it's up to $50. I usually don't spend that much on anything unless I need it.Originally Posted by mousedroid
I'm guessing the people who don't like these things also don't like, or never collected trading cards, because that's the closest, most obvious analog I can think of to these superpacks.
As someone who spent too much of his allowance as a kid on Wacky Packages, and Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back trading cards, and too much of his income as an adult on Buffy, and Star Wars Galaxy trading cards, I think these are a fun idea. I'll probably buy a 24 pack on each of my accounts and be done with it.
Does anyone know what the actual odds of any given item are? In the first pack I opened, I got 1 common, 3 uncommon and 1 very rare item.
The point is, is that it tricks you into spending more money then you have. "Oh! It's on sale!" "Oh! It's only $15" but do you notice how much this month that's added up already? Watch what you spend. Actually spend, and you'll see the difference. -
Btw, my original response to this new set was as follows:
"Well, I am inherently unhappy with this new "Item Pack". I have played Gaia Online and quit due to an exact replica of this money-pit scam. I'm a VIP player, and have been paying to play for years. I was good enough to continue my subscription not only to support the game, but for the features granted by said privileged accounts when it went free, and I still pay $15 and up per month for the new items that come out. I am not a money-pit however.
Seeing this new "Item Pack" sent my heart into my feet, I may have to stop playing. I love collecting the costume sets, and I -want- to get them if I spend the money to get them. But after spending over $15 on the "sale pack" of 24 of these sets and I did not receive all of the items, needless to say, I was upset. I already spent $15 on my VIP membership this month + $15 more on the previous item release last week, adding -another- $15 this week, that is -far- too much for the average -working- citizen. Yet, I gave it a chance.
I am afraid that this new "advancement" will have to cease, or you will lose valuable players. I don't want to spend $100 a month to get all of the items that are released for my characters, and I know that soon enough, like Gaia, this will turn into not just one pack at a time, but 2 then 3, and already you have lost my interest at one. Random packs are -not- a good solution to gaining money. The people who are already paying for the game monthly should not be a target of this either, but it seems that there is no reward. Because unlike Gaia, these items are account based, therefore, we can not simply trade to get these items, we -must- spend the money to get them. So there is nothing for even the working person to fall on.
This particular update has made me wonder where exactly the game is going, and if they really have the player's best interests in mind. Do not go the way to gain infinite money, cater to the players and make these options gain-able at a reasonable price. You may have lost a paying player, I am not going to be victim to this scam again. I had fun while it lasted, but as someone who loves the character options and customization in the game most, I feel very disappointed.
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Well, as it seems my thread has been closed I will post my reply here.
To the person who said "You simply do not have to buy the boxes and miss out on the set."
Are you -kidding- me? The whole thing about the game is to have all the pieces to create unique superheroes. -Why- do I, a -paying- customer, want to miss out on something I pay over $15 for? I am sorry again, but that is -not- satisfactory. I like completeness, I like having all of my costume pieces, I don't even play the game as much as I fiddle around with the character builder, this is where I find the most fun. So again, no. I am -not- happy with this.
I find these armour pieces to be very cool, and perfect for some of my hero designs, I do want them. But to have to spend -another- $15 to get them? I'm giving you a big -NO-. -
Well, I am inherently unhappy with this new "Item Pack". I have played Gaia Online and quit due to an exact replica of this money-pit scam. I'm a VIP player, and have been paying to play for years. I was good enough to continue my subscription not only to support the game, but for the features granted by said privileged accounts when it went free, and I still pay $15 and up per month for the new items that come out. I am not a money-pit however.
Seeing this new "Item Pack" sent my heart into my feet, I may have to stop playing. I love collecting the costume sets, and I -want- to get them if I spend the money to get them. But after spending over $15 on the "sale pack" of 24 of these sets and I did not receive all of the items, needless to say, I was upset. I already spent $15 on my VIP membership this month + $15 more on the previous item release last week, adding -another- $15 this week, that is -far- too much for the average -working- citizen. Yet, I gave it a chance.
I am afraid that this new "advancement" will have to cease, or you will lose valuable players. I don't want to spend $100 a month to get all of the items that are released for my characters, and I know that soon enough, like Gaia, this will turn into not just one pack at a time, but 2 then 3, and already you have lost my interest at one. Random packs are -not- a good solution to gaining money. The people who are already paying for the game monthly should not be a target of this either, but it seems that there is no reward. Because unlike Gaia, these items are account based, therefore, we can not simply trade to get these items, we -must- spend the money to get them. So there is nothing for even the working person to fall on.
This particular update has made me wonder where exactly the game is going, and if they really have the player's best interests in mind. Do not go the way to gain infinite money, cater to the players and make these options gain-able at a reasonable price. You may have lost a paying player, I am not going to be victim to this scam again. I had fun while it lasted, but as someone who loves the character options and customization in the game most, I feel very disappointed.
Best regards:
Astraica