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Thank you. After dusting out my computer. (which had a whole lot more dust in it than I care to admit) I went in and tried maxfps 20. I got about twice the "good playing" time and half the "laggy" time. So I tried it at maxfps12 and played for over an hour wit no noticeable difference. So I think that solved it. So...if I understand the post that means I am justified in telling my wife I need to get a newer, better, computer....right?

I am experiencing dramatic cycling fps rate dropping. I can play at a normal 30-60 fps rate for 5-8 minutes. Then it will drop to 3 or less for roughly 5 minutes. It will then snap back into full fledged playable mode for another 5-8 minutes...rinse repeat. Even in safe mode It follows the same cycle, but with higher numbers. It doesn't seem to matter whether I am in a mission, or on the map, nor does it matter whether I am in paragon city, or rogue islands. I used showfps 1 & my watch to determine the timing.

I used to play city of heroes on this computer (2+ years ago) and didn't have any troubles, I have not added any hardware (so far as I know.) I am using a cable modem through a router over an ethernet cable. When I noticed the problem I tried connecting my computer directly to the modem and I had the same cycling lag problem.

I have searched these (and a few other) forum reading every fps/lag related post I could find, and tried to implement some of the suggestions. I have made sure my drivers & virus scanner is up to date. I removed the huge mess of starting programs. The problem still persists.

I am fairly certain (read hopeful) that this is some simple thing that I am completely overlooking and somebody will point it out and we will all laugh. I cannot figure out what it is, but the game is almost unplayable in this manner, and also lonely since I can't team with people knowing that in less than 10 minutes I will be lagging for 5 minutes.

My COH helper & hijack this:

---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.8---

DxDiag gathered at April 29, 2010 10:38 (-07:00)
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.100218-0019)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: GM5626
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Central Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2180 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 3070MB
.Net Memory Report: 2230MB out of 3069MB available
Page File: 4002MB (993MB currently in use)
C Drive: (ST3500630AS) 234416MB out of 466473MB (50%) free
D Drive: (ST3500630AS) 4531MB out of 10464MB (43%) free
E Drive: (Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A ATA Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 11
DirectX Diag version: 7.00.6002.18107 (32-bit version)

Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.

No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.

Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce 8500 GT
Video Memory: 1520 MB
Driver Version: 8.17.0011.9713
Driver Date: 3/15/2010 11:51:59 PM
Driver Language: English

Sound Device Description: Speakers (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC)
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Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: D945GCF
Motherboard Version: AAD73937-206
BIOS Manufacturer: Intel Corp.
BIOS Name: Default System BIOS
BIOS Version: GATEWA - 3e
BIOS Release: 20070711000000.000000+000

Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1024x768
3D Resolution: 1024x768 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes

Physics Quality: Low
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Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No

Anti-aliasing: None
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Water Effects: None
Bloom: 1.000 (turned off)
Depth of Field Enabled: No
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Shader Detail: Lowest

World Texture Level: Low
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Entity Detail Level: 1.000
Shadows Enabled: No
Gamma Correction: 0.783
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Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: No
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Show Advertisements: Yes

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FX Sound Volume: 1.000
Music Sound Volume: 0.600

Show Advanced Graphics Options: Yes
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.500
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 539044 bytes/second
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Installation Directory: C:\Program Files\City of Heroes

Mod files in the Data directory
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Scan saved at 10:39:07 AM, on 4/29/2010
Platform: Windows Vista SP2 (WinNT 6.00.1906)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18904)
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Please forgive me. This is the first post ever that I have made to any city of... website (heros, villians, or unofficial sight) I know it's odd that I am not starting with a complaint, or in response to something offensive. It's just that this particular scenario grabbed me. The other problem is that I am having server problems. so I am quoting and cutting and pasting in stages. I am doing my best to get them to make sense, but if they fail in that regard, please assume the failure is in my gathering stuff rather than in my response. Thank you for your patience.



[ QUOTE ]


Worse yet, is the type of reception discussions like this usually tend to receive. Often, individuals who do not take these topics seriously (or simply do not understand them in any fashion) tend toward mockery and other forms of ignorance.

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Unfortunately I fall into this catagory. It's not so much that I don't take the topic seriously. (I am very interested, but to be honest cannot take many topics from an internet game site as actually serious.) The point is, I fall under the "do not understand" catagory. So please remember I am asking out of ignorance. Not necessarily mocking.


Please excuse/ignore any jingoism implied from the next comment. It is merely for dramatic purposes.

[ QUOTE ]

First there must be the basis to which we must appeal to give any ground to the ideas. In hopes of making a clear point, the main thing I will appeal to is the "infallible truths".

Infallible truths is not any form of worldly knowledge, but understanding of the unbending laws that construct what we know. Examples of such would be understanding the form of a cube, 1+1=2, etc.

The other two things we will appeal to is the perceivable truths and extensions of those truths based on reason.

So, starting in, the first thing to do is set aside the infallible truths for now and look at perceivable truths. There is the ever present issue that we can not prove that what we are experiencing it "real" and not just a fabricated reality caused by an external or internal force.



[/ QUOTE ]

So what we are saying here is "we hold these truths to be self evident, but we choose to ignore them anyway"? I'm sorry, but that is honestly what I am perceiving from the begining of this whole debate. We state flat out that there are self evidente presiding truths. Then the very next thing we do is to say that we are going to skip the whole presiding truth thing and base our entire philosophical reality on what we think is right rather than what is undeniably true. (I do realize that there can easily be a side argument stating that we cannot know what is undeniably true. unfortunatly this particular topic has an example of an undeniable truth. Therefor we cannot take comfort in the uncertanty of infallible truth.)

[ QUOTE ]
And as I stated, the "infallible truths" are things of intellectual absolutes that no matter who or what you are they will remain true.

For example, you can go 2+2=4, there is no way to have 2+2=5. No one would agree that it's a possibility as you are magically pulling something out of nowhere.



[/ QUOTE ]

See here is where science gets into the way of the absolute truth argument. (or perhaps I am going to be supporting it, Again please rememer I am posting out of ignorance, and seekign understanding.) I have a problem with the whole "2+2=4" thing. If you believe that logic, may I assume that you also believe that "1+1=2" also holds true? ( I believe that there is a "proof" of that theory accessible to most community college students (judgeing from my community college time) Anyway, It was in high school that a math teacher first presented me with the concept of 1+1=3. Admitedly the math teacher was teaching drivers education at the time. Nonetheless he was the first person to present the concept of synergy to me. Having fallen into a carreer as a pharmacy technician, I have seen up front the dependancy of synergy.

I believe synergy is very important in such philospophical equations, because 1) It disproves in an "unalienable" proof that 2 equal things do not necessarily add up to twice one thing. The other thing it prooves is that we don't necessarily know how math or any of the "infallible truths" work. I mean honestly if we can't ever work out "1+1" Then our whole purpose is pointless and not as sentient as we thought.


Wow if it fits. The whole point I am questioning is what exactly we are saying, and why. Please remember this is my first post, and I am posting out of my ignorance of these things. The point is I read the whole thread. I vaguely get that it is a discussion on existance. BUT...and here is where I get seriously thrown. First off we are told it is a discussion of existance that completely disregards immutable laws. Then we are told that the laws we thought were immutable, were merely rules from physics, which pretty much governe nature, except when they don't quite fit, but we ignore because as a rule they apply. Anyway...wow. okay I did the disclaimer, and the esponding to the reacions. (okay I didn't do that....it doesn't matter, how many more than 5 non CoX people will actually read these words?

The point is....Well as I said earlier I am posing out of ignorance. But rather than seeking meanign without truth. Would it not be better to seek out what the truths are, and work from there?