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  1. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl View Post
    I said that "those (Consumables) are per character" meaning that when you use one, it's gone, it's not "per account" meaning that all your characters on an account get to use one before it's gone. I can see how you're correcting what I said to keep people from getting confused, and that's fine, but I know what I meant when i said it :P
    I'm trying to avoid having to debunk things that weren't said.

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    Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl View Post
    Let me try it again:

    Consumables work once, on one character, and then they are used up/gone, etc. You do not get to use them once on EACH of your characters. I.e. if you get the "5 Dual/Team Inspirations" from the PR Chart, you have 5 total to use, if you blow them all on one character, they're gone. You'd have to wait until more are granted or buy some to get more.
    Again, from my personal perspective, I think that stinks. The every Paragon Reward should be a certificate or auto-granted to all characters (existing past/present/future) on an account.
  2. Snow Globe
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    Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl View Post
    Posi and SM did say though that the consumables that are granted from Vet Rewards (Dual/Team Insps etc.) are Vouchers, not certificates. That's fine, as I figured that's how those would work. In other words, those are per-character. Merits and Respecs are still up in the air though.
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    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    Voucher = 1 per account.
    Certificates = 1 per character (existing and new) for the entire account.
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    Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl View Post
    Right. That's what I said.
    You said vouchers were per character. At which point someone will come along and claim that every character, past, present, and future on the account will get a voucher for the consumable. Personally, I think any reward earned through this should have been a certificate, and not able to be traded.

    Matt answered the first part, Nate answered the second after consulting Matt.
  3. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl View Post
    Posi and SM did say though that the consumables that are granted from Vet Rewards (Dual/Team Insps etc.) are Vouchers, not certificates. That's fine, as I figured that's how those would work. In other words, those are per-character. Merits and Respecs are still up in the air though.
    Voucher = 1 per account.
    Certificates = 1 per character (existing and new) for the entire account.
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    Thanks for posting this, Von Krieger.
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    Originally Posted by StratoNexus View Post
    I got all pacified and was throwing myself into wholly believing this, then I saw someone talking about Enhancement Unslotters and Vouchers instead of Certificates (and I understand that those vouchers could have been from the store, while the Paragon Rewards may be account wide).

    So once again, I hope the devs could clarify. When you choose the option to get Unslotters or Boosters, does each character gain them or do you just get them once per account? What about rewards like respecs, are they still for each and every character (including ones not yet made) or are they one per account?
    On today's ustream (sadly not recorded), the Paragon Rewards are account wide. The costumes/emotes/non-consumables are going to be certificates. How they are handling consumables (like respecs) is up in the air though. I have the sense that even they aren't sure of how they are going to be handled at the moment.

    Edit:
    Second Measure, after a brief confirmation with Positron had this to say:

    Paragon Rewards Respecs: "They MIGHT be vouchers. But I thought they were automatic granted things. We keep trying different things and I can't remember what we’re currently doing. I'm living in the future and getting meetings about things to come. I'm working on Issue 22 and 23. The team has done such a good job with Freedom I feel comfortable doing what comes next."
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    Originally Posted by Baba_Kanoosh View Post
    The devs hate archery:
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    Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
    I don't think league size is an issue.. It's all about the moron to non-moron ratio.
    Pretty much this. The leagues that fail have people that don't listen on them.
  8. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    Quote:
    Q: Are there any incentives to maintaining my subscription or reactivating my subscription before City of Heroes Freedom launches?
    A: Current subscribers and former subscribers that reactivate their accounts earn 400 Paragon Points per month beginning July 1, 2011. Any active subscriber also earns Reward Tokens in our new Paragon Rewards program.
    From here: http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/fre...eedom_faq.html
    Yes, you earn Reward Tokens before launch. How they are earned is differently than Paragon Points:
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    Originally Posted by Black Pebble
    What is a Reward Token?
    • A way for you to unlock rewards in the Paragon Rewards program
    • 1 Reward Token unlocks 1 Paragon Reward
    • A Paragon Reward is similar to a Veteran Reward
    How can you get a Reward Token today?
    • 1 for every Veteran Badge
    • 1 for every 12 month of subscription
    How can you get a Reward Token once City of Heroes Freedom Iaunches?
    • 1 for every month of Freedom VIP Subscription
    • 1 for every 12 months of Subscription
    • 1 for every cumulative 1,200 Paragon Points purchased in tha store
    If you have ANY source that specifically states that we will earn 1 EXTRA (beyond what is specified by Black Pebble/Zwillinger in Wednesday's UStream chat) reward token from July to Issue 21 launch, provide it.
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    Originally Posted by Avatea View Post
    Patch notes for build 2050.201106210214.1.

    Emotes awarded from Praetorian Zone Events and Astral and Empyrean Merit Vendors are now accessible via the quickchat menu.
    Costume change emotes (and the Facepalm emote) are no longer accessible due to someone putting an extra } on line 716 of the quickchat menu. *edit* The } on line 715 closes the Quickchat menu starting on line 58. It needs to be moved to the end of the costume change emotes.

    I won't say how I know this is the exact line the error happened.

    Additionally, none of the Astral/Empyrean Merit costume change emotes (Fireworks, Ice Block, Nuke, Pure Energy, Stone Block) are present in the quickchat menu as well.
  10. Snow Globe
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    Originally Posted by Celica View Post
    In terms of costume pieces your most recent example is, what, three years old?

    It's extremely hard to believe they'd add costume sets that deep in the vet reward tree now. The "choicest" stuff was earned within 18 months, Tech Sleek being iffy at 27 months (perhaps on your server the boxing set is wildly popular?). The Arachnos Helmets were strangley past due compared to the pre-order sprints (and more likely drudged up when they sat around stumped for ideas), but they are not heavily used - especially not compared to trench coats and wings and samurai armor bits.
    Actually, I find it hard to find most of the vet reward costume bits on people these days (a lot of Ascension sets), though I did see someone with the Boxing Set 2 days ago. At any rate, the Celestial set is exactly what I would have expected for one of the 87+ month Vet Rewards. I know I would have been interested in keeping up my subscription if it were.

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    Originally Posted by Celica View Post
    There are less examples of costume sets being given as vet reward as they are simply being given along with new boxes (5 full sets vs 3 full sets, and this is discounting the huge number of sets that came with CoV).
    As people keep telling me... You need a larger sample size. I could flip a coin once and say that it has a 100% chance to come up heads. It doesn't make it anywhere near the truth.

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    Originally Posted by Celica View Post
    They have added costumes in boxed editions every time (excepting Architect Edition, which let you choose a Booster) - pre-order sprints and helmets, Justice, Sinister, Valkyrie, Resistance, Praetorian, too numerous to list Villain sets, DVD Edition capes for both COH and COV, DVD Edition Arachnos logo, etc.
    Of course they add costumes to Expansions. The costume editor is one of the main draws of the game. How else do you entice existing players to buy what they already have?

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    Originally Posted by Celica View Post
    They have just added costume bits as in-game purchasable with one of our myriad in-game currencies
    What better means to test if the new store delivery system works?

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    Originally Posted by Celica View Post
    That's disingenuous, especially when being so dismissive of other people's opinions and lines of thought when your own are lacking in substance.
    Pot, meet kettle. Oh, hey!

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    Originally Posted by Celica View Post
    Have a peachy day! I'm sure you'll enjoy the last word.
    Insulting much?
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    Originally Posted by Heartbreaker View Post


    I suppose its not terribly relevant, as Tier 9 / Tier 9 VIP are actually the same tier and don't need to be purchased in any particular order, but am I the only person seeing "96 Months" twice on your chart?
    I just took the chart to the 99 month badge. In reality I don't expect anyone to have more than the 84 or 87 badge at Issue 21 launch. As others have said, the second red badge is the free reward token for the year.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    It's on purpose.

    You get an extra token every year. So every multiple of 12 months is repeated twice. In red.
    Exactly.

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    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    Also the chart isn't quite accurate it seems, since it also seems we'll be getting one Paragon Rewards token every month leading up to the release of Freedom.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...dator/pr05.jpg

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    Originally Posted by Shadow State View Post
    Is this accurate? I keep hear conflicting information on whether or not tier one costs a token.
    So each white square represents 1 vet badge (the badge stated), and the red 12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72, 84, and 96 represents the extra token.

    Tier 1 is Free to play without buying anything (brand new subscribers).
    Tier 2 costs 1 reward token or premium account.
    Tier 3 costs 3 reward tokens to complete.
    Tier 4 costs 3 reward tokens to complete.
    Tier 5 costs 5 reward tokens to complete.
    Tier 6 costs 7 reward tokens to complete.
    Tier 7 costs 7 reward tokens to complete.
    Tier 8 costs 7 reward tokens to complete.
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    Originally Posted by Atomic_Saint View Post
    Yesterday I finally got the all of the villain mayhem exploration badges, but did not receive the accolade. And before you ask, I checked and rechecked to ensure that I did indeedy have them all.

    I am currently in "Rogue" status. do I have to be a full fledged villain for that sucker to reward?
    See this post:
    http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?p=3105559
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    Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit View Post
    I have now given up on this badge for the foreseeable future. Having a badge depending on my performance while doing something is one thing. Having it depend on a bunch of people who can't read/follow instructions/or don't care about what their actions do to others is something altogether different. Here's hoping these kind of badge shenanigans do not rear their ugly heads again in I21.
    If what I found out in issue 20 prebeta holds, you aren't going to get your wish.
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    Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
    That wouldn't be surprising even if IE were equally as secure as the other browsers. It would be like saying most fuel-related accidents with automobiles involve gasoline. That doesn't indicate that hydrogen is safer, so much as it indicates more automobiles use gasoline.
    Let me clarify: I've not seen any virus related to any other browser BUT IE. The only other vector I had to deal with was Outlook. Funny that. Admittedly I've seen a potential threat on Firefox and Chrome (to the point I had to invoke the task manager) from redirect hijacks.
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    Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
    Hey, again, I logged in and didn't see the emotes in the quickchat emote list... It's been mentioned by others that they are there.
    Color me confused...

    If anyone can tell me where they are listed, I will gladly do a facepalm in response to my inability to have figured that out myself.

    I really did look through the entire list and every submenu in my quickchat menu though, so I'm not sure what the deal is here.

    Thanks for any help!
    They are in the file, however due to an error in the game files they are not actively shown. (please don't ask how I know this)
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    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Avatea View Post
    Patch notes for build 2050.201106210214.1.

    Emotes awarded from Praetorian Zone Events and Astral and Empyrean Merit Vendors are now accessible via the quickchat menu.
    Costume change emotes are no longer accessible due to someone putting a } on line 716 of the quickchat menu instead of the end of the file.

    I won't say how I know that is the exact line the error happened.

    Additionally, none of the Astral/Empyrean Merit costume change emotes (Fireworks, Ice Block, Nuke, Pure Energy, Stone Block) are present either.
    I use a modified quickchat menu as discussed in this guide:
    http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=127186

    The command for the facepalm emote is "e facepalm". The command for the inactive doublefacepalm is "e doublefacepalm".
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    Originally Posted by Rabid_M View Post
    Personally, I don't mind that it's being given out this way. I just want to know that I can get it later without doing something that I'm morally opposed to. (And yes, I know this is an odd thing to get morally stuck on, but stuck on it I am.)

    Given that I work 12 hour work days, I'm not fond of contests to get things because I'm often WAY too late to get a shot at them. Again, I don't mind there being contests that give them out first, just so long as I can get them later.
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    Originally Posted by mousedroid View Post
    Hopefully these will be offered again after this weekend. I'm at SDCC (sitting in the CoH panel now), and FB won't let me log into my account from my smartphone.
    Contest rules:
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    3. DURATION

    The contest period begins at 9:00 AM (CST) on Thursday, July 21, 2011 and ends at 11:59 PM (CST) on Monday, August 29, 2011 (the "Promotion Period").

    4. SELECTION OF WINNING ENTRIES

    All eligible entrants will receive one code for an in-game facepalm emote until the earlier of (i) supplies run out, or (ii) the end of the Promotion Period. Winners will be notified via e-mail and announced on the [Game] web site on or about [Monday, November 7th, 2011].
    You might have time. Besides, Beastyle said they'll do it again.
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    Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
    Bam! Got one! Alpha finally has the most fitting of emotes

    So, how do you use them? /e facepalm and /e doublefacepalm? (Seen two variants in screenshots now, and not got the game on my laptop to test )
    They are in the emotes menu, but doublefacepalm doesn't work.
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    Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
    And if you want to 'buy out' the rest of the Reward Tier Tree, you can pay $15 per Token needed (and also get 1,200 Points for each $15 you spend) by means of buying Points, OR... You can pay your subscription ahead of time and get 1 Paragon Point immediate for each future month you pay for.
    Yeah, that makes it likely that I'm going to be in tier 9 immediately. Unless they wait until December to launch.
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    Originally Posted by Zem View Post
    Strange. I know the Raptor Pack I purchased in Grandville worked fine on a mini-BAF last night because I was using it to hover/Assassin-Strike Nightstar a few times. Is it just the ones built from temp recipes that don't work?
    Funny story about that. Initially in pre-beta all temp powers, including microtransaction (MTX) powers like ninja run were disabled during the trials. After many complaints (and several months) it was fixed just before Issue 20 launched, but didn't include all travel powers until the 4/26 patch.

    Ok, I guess it wasn't that funny. However that is how it came about.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
    So my original thought of indirectly buying badges was correct

    A New player can sign up to the site, purchase points thus earning Reward Tokens for each 1200 points they purchase, allowing them to use to unlock the Vet rewards and badges. So if the new member wanted to spend the money he/she can purchase enough Points to earn enough Reward Tokens to unlock all the Vet badges in the Tiered Tree.
    Or... They could break the connection between the Veteran Reward Badges and the rewards...

    So every three months subscribed you still get vet badges, every year subscribed you get one of the new year badges, and the rewards are tracked instead with the charity rewards thermometer. The only thing they'll likely remove is the place holder badges for claiming the powers (making them certificates instead), and they never counted.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    */e facepalm* I'm not calling them liars, I never called them liars. If YOU saw that, YOU read the bias in.
    That is how I read it.

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    I am saying that it hasn't been specifically addressed in a way that was clear to people who are especially concerned about it. Because it hasn't been specifically addressed, people who are especially concerned about the availability of the Celestial costumes don't know how aware the devs are of their concerns. Thus, I'm stating, they should speak up if it's that important to them. I'm not saying that they will necessarily get a response, but that they should make the effort. Why? Because the dev team is pretty good about monitoring the boards & making note of people's concerns. Sometimes they even respond.
    I'm sure that they are already getting this feedback in Beta.

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    So now we have the tier 9 VIP rewards which have been announced to offer rewards on a limited-time basis. AFAIK, it hasn't been specifically stated what refresh means. AFAIK it also hasn't been specifically stated the the tier 9 rewards will be made available again at a later date.
    So panic is justified if, in early announcements, not everything is revealed? Give me a break.

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    Now some of these things are fixed & can't be changed based on design decisions made long ago, but other things are still in flux & might be changeable. Not being privy to what's going on behind the scenes, the people who have concerns should say something now.
    I going to give you some advice as to what happens in betas. First there is planning. That probably took place last year, if not earlier. Then they had a team starting the general shape of the rewards program and made some mock-ups. They then got a small focus group (actually there was a focus group before this beta) to see if they were on the right track. This happened in May. The developers explained what they were planning to this group. At this point most of the overall features were set. The developers then continued working to get it closer to actual production. Late June they started with a small group of beta testers. They are possibly on the third wave of beta testers at this point, if my guess is right (based on past betas). The features, unless they are horribly broken, are set at this point.

    What you are talking about (refreshing top tier rewards) will not happen for 3-4 months after Issue 21 launch. The thing is that the rewards might be rotated in quarterly. So Q4 is the Celestial Set, Q1 is a Tier 9 VIP only powerset, Q2 is a special Mission Pack, Q3 a special IO set only available to Tier 9 VIP. We won't know until they give us more information. Throwing oneself into a panic won't get the information faster.

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    Again, no. I'm saying that they are many people working on a project that has lots of details. They get most things right, but they can also make oversights & mistakes. They try very hard not to overlook anything & to not make mistakes, but sometimes things do slip between the cracks. I'm saying that people who have particular concerns SHOULD raise those concerns if they have reason to believe, or see direct evidence that those concerns haven't been addressed.
    In every case that they've made that mistake, they have corrected it. There is only a small set of badges that are one-shots: The anniversary badges, passport, and efficiency expert.

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    By doing so, they give the devs the opportunity to see both what the concerns of their community are, and where their current communications may not be doing as good a job as they'd have liked. Based on the feedback they get, they improve their communications by addressing the issues they didn't communicate as well as they would have liked and are of concern to the community.
    You don't come to these forums often, huh? What you are saying hasn't happened in past, and I'm sure it will continue into the future.

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    Something appears to have happened & your thought here did not get expressed completely. (Evidence that even the most thorough people can have slip-ups)
    Dyslexia, actually. Sometimes I don't realize I haven't completed my sentences because of it. That should be:

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. The rednames have consistently stated that they are aware of players not wanting "one shot" rewards of any stripe. Players complaining, yet again, that they don't want one shot costume sets or other rewards is saying that "perhaps in this case the developers are insane and will forget."

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    Originally Posted by Red_Gren View Post
    And I expect it would have been released as a booster pack, or been made unlockable in-game. I think it only became acceptable to have a costume set as a subscriber reward because they moved to this new reward system. I think the lack of costume sets in the later Veteran Rewards supports my position better than it does yours.
    I can cite several veteran rewards, when added caused uproar because they were "too far", including wings, Samurai Armor, Tech Sleek, shoulder capes, chest emblems (groups), the boxing set, the Arachnos Helmets (51 month reward). We were likely to get the GR enhancements (at a guess they would have been 87 or 90).
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    Originally Posted by Djeannie View Post
    Just like the "Free" 150pp/month for just being a tier 9 subscriber? I don't see that on the pyramid and wouldn't expect that or the costumes to cost a token to unlock but we'll just have to wait and see, until the devs actually clarify what they mean and say.
    I believe the following explains my thought process:

    They just forgot the asterisks.
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    Originally Posted by Djeannie View Post
    thanks for the timestamp.

    Either they're free or they cost tokens. If they're free then the page is fine. If they cost tokens then the devs need to stop throwing the word "Free" around because they're not "Free" and the website needs to be changed.
    I've yet to find a marketer that hasn't abused the word "free".

    They are giving you a free reward token each month and each year. By the twisty language marketers have, they can claim that they are free.
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    Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
    I disagree. I have 'Avoids The Green Stuff' on multiple toons due to helping others get it, but have not been able to get 'Loves A Challenge' on ANY yet.
    I can't even get people that will listen enough to get Bunker Buster...
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    Originally Posted by Djeannie View Post
    Must have missed that in the ustream. Even if it were vip only I'm sure they could gate the market to not sell things to non vip members, thus making it available for vips only to purchase. They seem quite capable of having the ability to gate everything else now based on account status so I doubt this is a stretch.
    The above ustream time index 32:40-34:00.