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20% Perception is identical to the "Empowerment Station" +Perception buff.

So the Perc IOs currently add 100 Feet +Perception, and Stealth IOs currently add 300 feet of +Stealth.

I might as well post a complete breakdown of how this affects Perception-versus-Stealth in zones here...

*** Stealth Caps are as follows: ***
@25: 968 (Stalker) 484.0 (Non Stalker) - Bloody Bay
@30: 1003 (Stalker) 501.5 (Non Stalker) - Siren's Call
@38: 1059 (Stalker) 529.5 (Non Stalker) - Warburg
@50: 1143 (Stalker) 571.5 (Non Stalker) - Recluse's Victory
The Perception cap is always Stalker Stealth Cap +10 feet.

*** Stalker Stealth Powers: ***
Stalker Hide + Stealth is -889 Feet.
Stalker Hide + Invis is -1111 Feet.
Stalker Hide + Stealth + Stealth IO is -1189 Feet.

*** Non-Stalker Stealth Powers ***
Most "Stealth" Powers are -389 Feet.
Stealth Power + Stealth IO is -689 Feet.
Invisibility is -611 Feet.
Superior Invisibility is -1000 Feet.

A Stalker with Hide + Stealth + Stealth IO is always at the Stalker Stealth cap, regardless of level.
A Non-Stalker with a Stealth Power + Stealth IO is always at the Non-Stalker Stealth Cap, regardless of level.
ONE PERCEPTION BUFF WILL ALWAYS LET ANY TOON SEE A NON-STALKER.

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*** Perception values: ***
+ Normal inherent "Perception" range is 500 Feet.
+ Powerset Self-Perception Buffs except Tactics all give +300 feet.
+ Clear Mind/Clarity buffs vary by level (Controller @ 25 is 307.5 Feet), two applications always hits the cap.
+ Empowerment Station Buff grants 100 Feet
+ New Perception IO grants 100 Feet

Tactics Value buffs in feet:
+ 172.2 (Blaster/Tanker/Scrapper/Stalker/Brute, Bloody Bay)
+ 186.2 (Blaster/Tanker/Scrapper/Stalker/Brute, Siren's Call)
+ 208.6 (Blaster/Tanker/Scrapper/Stalker/Brute, Warburg)
+ 242.2 (Blaster/Tanker/Scrapper/Stalker/Brute, Recluse's Victory)
+ 307.5 (Defender, Bloody Bay)
+ 332.5 (Defender, Siren's Call)
+ 372.5 (Defender, Warburg)
+ 432.5 (Defender, Recluse's Victory)
+ 246.0 (Controller/Corruptor, Bloody Bay)
+ 266.0 (Controller/Corruptor, Siren's Call)
+ 298.0 (Controller/Corruptor, Warburg)
+ 346.0 (Controller/Corruptor, Recluse's Victory)
+ 184.5 (Dominator/Mastermind, Bloody Bay)
+ 199.5 (Dominator/Mastermind, Siren's Call)
+ 223.5 (Dominator/Mastermind, Warburg)
+ 259.5 (Dominator/Mastermind, Recluse's Victory)
+ 221.4 (Kheldian, Bloody Bay)
+ 239.4 (Kheldian, Siren's Call)
+ 268.2 (Kheldian, Warburg)
+ 311.4 (Kheldian, Recluse's Victory)

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*** So, who can hit the Perception Cap solo? (AKA "Who can see a maxxed-Stealth Stalker?") ***

+++ Bloody Bay: (Level 25, Cap of 978 feet)

Tankers/Scrappers/Blasters - Yes, Need Empowerment buff OR Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
172.2 (Tanker/Scrapper/Blaster/Stalker/Brute Tactics @25)
300 (Powerset self +Perception like Focussed Senses/Targetting Drone)
= 972.2 Feet, 4.2 Feet over the Stealth Cap. Not quite enough to see a Stalker within melee range.
A Perception IO or Empowerment buff will cover the last 5.8 feet.

Defenders - Yes, Need Empowerment buff AND Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
307.5 (Defender Tactics @25)
= 807.5 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will cover the last 170.5 feet.

Controllers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
246.0 (Controller/Corruptor Tactics @25)
= 746.0 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 232 feet.

Warshades - Yes, need no extras.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
221.4 (Kheldian Tactics @25)
300 (Powerset self +Perception - Shadow Cloak)
= 1021.4 Feet

Peacebringers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
221.4 (Kheldian Tactics @25)
= 721.4 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 256.6 feet.


+++ Siren's Call: (Level 30, Cap of 1013 feet)

Tankers/Scrappers/Blasters - Yes, Need Empowerment buff OR Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
186.2 (Tanker/Scrapper/Blaster/Stalker/Brute Tactics @30)
300 (Powerset self +Perception like Focussed Senses/Targetting Drone)
= 986.2 Feet.
A Perception IO or Empowerment buff will cover the last 26.8 feet.

Defenders - Yes, Need Empowerment buff AND Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
332.5 (Defender Tactics @30)
= 832.5 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will cover the last 180.5 feet.

Controllers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
266.0 (Controller/Corruptor Tactics @30)
= 766.0 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 247 feet.

Warshades - Yes, need no extras.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
239.4 (Kheldian Tactics @30)
300 (Powerset self +Perception - Shadow Cloak)
= 1039.4 Feet

Peacebringers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
239.4 (Kheldian Tactics @30)
= 739.4 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 273.6 feet.


+++ Warburg: (Level 38, Cap of 1069 feet)[/color]

Tankers/Scrappers/Blasters/Stalkers/Brutes - Yes, Need Empowerment buff OR Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
208.6 (Tanker/Scrapper/Blaster/Stalker/Brute Tactics @38)
300 (Powerset self +Perception like Focussed Senses/Targetting Drone)
= 1008.6 Feet.
A Perception IO or Empowerment buff will cover the last 60.4 feet.

Defenders - Yes, Need Empowerment buff AND Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
372.5 (Defender Tactics @38)
= 872.5 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will cover the last 196.5 feet.

Controllers/Corruptors - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
298.0 (Controller/Corruptor Tactics @38)
= 798.0 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 271 feet.

Dominators/Masterminds - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
223.5 (Dominator/Mastermind Tactics @38)
= 723.5 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 345.5 feet.

Warshades - Yes. (It's 0.8 feet short without buffs)
500 (Normal Base Perception)
268.2 (Kheldian Tactics @38)
300 (Powerset self +Perception - Shadow Cloak)
= 1086.2 Feet, 0.8 Feet short of the cap.

Peacebringers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
268.2 (Kheldian Tactics @38)
= 768.2 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 300.8 feet.


+++ Recluse's Victory: (Level 50, Cap of 1153 feet)

Tankers/Scrappers/Blasters - Yes, Need Empowerment buff AND Perception IO, or Focussed Accuracy.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
242.2 (Tanker/Scrapper/Blaster/Stalker/Brute Tactics @50)
300 (Powerset self +Perception like Focussed Senses/Targetting Drone)
= 1042.2 Feet.
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will cover the last 110.8 feet.
FOCUSSED ACCURACY from the Tanker/Scrapper Epic Pools also adds another 300 Feet.

Defenders - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
432.5 (Defender Tactics @50)
= 932.5 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT the last 220.5 feet.

Controllers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
346.0 (Controller/Corruptor Tactics @50)
= 846.0 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 307 feet.

Warshades - Yes, Need Empowerment buff OR Perception IO.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
311.4 (Kheldian Tactics @50)
300 (Powerset self +Perception - Shadow Cloak)
= 1111.4 Feet
A Perception IO or Empowerment buff will cover the last 41.6 feet.

Peacebringers - No.
500 (Normal Base Perception)
311.4 (Kheldian Tactics @50)
= 811.4 Feet
A Perception IO combined with an Empowerment buff will NOT cover the last 341.6 feet.

Main source for all these numbers is the US board thread here.

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Very nice, thanks for that Mael, now i know im safe

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<3 Total Inertia (Ice/Kin)

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The perc+ IO is only 20% percep buff. Which means stalkers are safe.

Shoop da w000000000p! Hay Dark-ness!

There are NO ultimate builds when you can have Thermal and kinetics in team, instead of thermal only or kinetics only. When i saw this thread name i thought exactly Mael's first lines. Depends what type. Mael pretty much said sum it up for me. So it pretty much depends what you wanna do. I wouldnt make a zonal corruptor for solo. Either teams or solo/team arena. In this case it depends again on what you wanna do in teams or arena.

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Why should a stalker without stealth and stealth io not be able to leave the villain base, when dominators can, trollers, blasters, corruptors.

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BECAUSE THEY ARE A STEALTH ARCHETYPE? [caps lock off jeje]

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I think you dont read what he already said.He dont want a dedicated healer set but he wants to be more controlerish.For which the build is fine provided a few rearranging is done with the slots.

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Is that even possible with mind/empath?

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Ok... A blaster in zone PvP needs: 3 powers for stamina, 3 powers for accro, 2 powers for aid self, 2 powers for superspeed, 2 powers for tactics = 12 powers

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According to WHOM?


Have you ever seen TG in warburg? He doesnt have heal or tactics and i believe he is one of the best zonal blasters.


Except if you mean tactics for Devices blasters which i still dont find a must anymore.

I'd go with Psydock's build of your empath, i think that Heal+ bonuses are the most important in an empath.

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As for a duel'n mind/empath i see nothing wrong in it, granted it's never going to be a fotm like the fire/kin or ill/rad but he still manages to get his fair share of victory's regardless of his bo**ocks damage output

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I wouldn't consider fire/kin or ill/rad to be fotm in duels, mate

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lol

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Blasters with mez protection would be a silly add on to PvP... but well, we already got stalkers, so who knows

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Thats why you got 2 of them

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I'm just affraid that when they will "fix" defiance, it will have some sort of mez protection, which will destroy the whole glass cannon thing.

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They wont.

So, any other events planned for this weekend guys?

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TBH a buffed blaster might be strong but doesnt mean he is unkillable if the blaster doesn't kite etc no ammount of heals will save him.

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Yup, thats why i made the definition of a bad and an experienced blaster

I agree Mael and i dissagree by far that Blasters > Stalkers in easy difficulty. Although seeing buffed blasters shouting about stalkers is a complete joke. Playing an EM stalker and a buffed blaster is completely the same thing, and the blaster would even survive more. Another thing is that a bad player on a buffed blaster wont kill anything at all, while an experienced player will kill more stuff solo. A bad stalker solo will do so-so things in pvp. An experienced player will do crazy things with a stalker in pvp. In PvE stalkers are pretty much, solo ATs. I had no problem doing paper missions on relentless with my stalkers at all (solo)and it was fast xp. While a blaster would die easily in solo unless he has break frees, because the biggest problem of blaster's in both pvp and pve is Mez's.

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spag biffed them in the face

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Is that a sexual term?

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sound the big hammer on halo 3 makes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEy6IdG1sTI

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sorry guyz i tro fir n kin.

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I swear when match started i could smell the need Zaldor had for pampers!

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Damn, you got it

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Maturity has no place on PVP boards or /arena chat. This has been proven on several occations.



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True story

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^

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zaldor pwned

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As i pwned, or i got pwned?

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Lol Zaldor corruptor

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Ignore them, they're being dumb.

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Link

Thoughts? Mind you that there was like 3 Stalkers vs blasters threads all locked at US, but some people claim that blasters are easier to play overall.

Discuss...

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OMG INSPIS IN REENR R H4X

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Good luck on your superteam guys

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PVP on COH should be amazing, but the immaturity of most of the players amazes me. TBH, I reckon it has even gone far enough for the Devs to take a page out of WoW's book, and stop all communication between enemies in PVP Zones. Stops the endless rants that go on whenever you're inside.

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God damn WB would be like

Randomvillain: qwrwtq
Randomhero: noob
randomvillain: fdgl

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1) Delete broadcast at pvp zones.
2) Remove the names from the head of the characters so no-one know who each other is.