Zombie Man

And for those who work at home, or the night shift, or home from school? If it's not useful *for you*, then it shouldn't exist for anyone else?


So, every mass communication stream is exactly the same?


Or, add different streams for different purposes. If you read the thread, which is seems you have not, there are multiple suggestions for an *extra* communication stream which is limited to timely alerts that can be pushed to mobile devices. That in no way takes away from all the other communication streams... unless you keep on with your rather bizarre assumption that all communication streams should carry all possible content with no limits.

Would love to see Nemmie's face (well, his exasperated puffs of steam) when his sub surfaces in IP right next to Statesman.

Not to mentions the clanging of all the mechanical beings clamoring all over the ship.

Or the whirring of mechanical engines.

Or the freaking huge plumes of steam coming out of the surface of the water.

I got Feb 17...

Whadya you got?



IOW: Anyone who was reading the forums about how powerful the new PPMs were had selective eyesight that they didn't see all the posts from players saying this was obviously broken. And then selective deductive reasoning to not assume they'd get nerfed (or as known in the industry... 'fixed').

I should program my bugs to search for key phrases and send me cell phone notifications...

Well, get you, moneybags, with a level 50 IO Run in Sprint! An SO would only get you 1.6 mph. You should boost it +5 for 2.6 mph!!

Well, OCR would have to commit themselves to using those tags. In that case, if I can filter such Tweets and have just them notify my cell, I'd love that. But they'd have to avoid the temptation to misuse tags to bypass people using filters.

#VitalCoHNews Today's ice cream sundae friday at the studio!


True. But when a business has a Twitter feed, what was expected? Should I have been Tweeting back to their channel telling them how my day was and what I'm wearing? It's only fair if I have to read about meat on a stick.

I put a strong boundary with family and friends over splurge email and re-re-forwards and hoax virus alerts so as not to deal with email saturation. I have no problem setting the same boundaries with business associates.

If you're chasing IOs for speed, you have to also deal with what kind of speed: run, jump, or fly -- and there's precious little of each. My suggestion, pitched several times, is to change all the extra speed IOs to Universal Extra Speed and then buff them a bit.



Every extra slot in Swift past the first is relatively as worthless as a +Speed IO. Allowing players to put extra slots in Swift is.....

<get your shot glasses out>

... a slap in the face!!


Oopah!

So nice of you to say since you're so indifferently good.


Anyway, terminology:

The backronym of Programed Random Occurrence comes from the WoW community. There is no evidence of that phrase existing before Procs were introduced in WoW. Meanwhile, Positron, who introduced us to 'procs' was used to that term from Everquest days which predated WoW and he defined it as a procedure.

But that term and others like 'Uniques' got applied to all the Special Single-acting IOs... incorrectly... or correctly... depending on how Positron and Castle defined 'procedure.'

What we players have determined is that there are three categories of Special Single-acting IOs which we (and be 'we', I mean 'me' since I cleaned up the terminological chaos in the Wiki and mostly everyone has accepted it ) have called them:

1. Global IOs: Act like Global Set Bonuses (always on). Obey the -3 level minimum cut off rule.

2. Procs: Chance to fire off when the power is used. Doesn't obey the -3 level minimum cut off rule.

3. Proc120s: Just like Procs, except they last 120 seconds in clicks and pulse 10 seconds in toggles/autos, and their 'chance' to go off is 100%.

Whether that third category should be called a proc or not has been debated. But it's a widely accepted name to get a handle on what it does in apparent effect regardless of actual mechanics.



As to my opinions for my one fan:

• I believe that if just one single 'proc' -- whether legacy or PPM -- is being relied upon by an AT to make a *significant* jump in 'power' or to make the AT 'playable'; then it is Overpowered. That may be the case with some of the new PPMs and if a cap is needed, cap 'em. A proc should be as good or slightly better than a Level 50 Damage IO in effect. If it's several orders better... that's not good.

• I also believe too many of the Legacy procs are underpowered and worthless and need a buff.

• I have guarded optimism this will all be worked out satisfactorily by I24.

• I also believe the powers team should have heeded previous warnings and not brought this to Live so quickly.

• I also believe that the level ranges of Enhancement Sets needed more of the Powers Team attention than the procs ever did. Level 10-20 Sets? Useless and ridiculous.

• Also, the Powers Team should have focused on new Sets for categories that are short on options.

But what does someone so badly indifferent know?

Stop! I can't take it any more!

later_k, I need to tell you.. no must! I must tell you...

I'm bearing your child!!! <breaks down weeping>

Waitasec. Are you saying people are *relying* on procs to make a Stalker fun to play?

Because it's not optimization that some are defending. It's clearly overpowered mechanics that they leveraged that they're defending. And they throw the term 'nerf!' against what is a valid fix/rebalance and are implacable at any change to that.

I get angry at those who do that. I'm sorry you get angry when I get angry when I call them out for doing so.

I've always wondered... what do you Devs call them, then?

All we ever got in terminology was Positron who mentioned 'procs' as a procedure with a chance to happen. But then we got three classes of Special IOs that work by themselves rather than in a set:

1. Special IOs with a Global-like bonus: These follow the -3 minimum rule to 'work' and work even if the power is not used or even greyed out.

2. Special IOs with a 'proc': These do not follow the -3 minimum rule to 'work' but only work when the power is activated and have a chance to happen that is less than 100%.

3. Special IOs with a 100% chance to 'proc' and a 120 minute duration in click powers. These are more like 'procs' then the Global bonus Special IOs.

So... what do *you* call them?

I wouldn't go that far.

In the end, I have full confidence that any SBE PPM proc will be as good or better than its current Legacy Proc analogue. That should be satisfactory to most folk.

However, if you're chasing SBE PPM procs because they're *way better* than any Legacy Proc... then you might be disappointed if that is eventually balanced back (i.e. 'nerfed') to something more reasonable.

People have a lot of valid concerns in this thread. However, one particularly invalid concern is that a SBE PPM which is currently way overpowered should be kept in its current overpowered state because they paid money for it. That won't fly. A policy of Paragon Studios stated by several different devs over the years is that no matter how long or established a bug or mechanical imbalance may be, the devs reserve the right to fix/balance it at any time. People who chase edge cases for unusually large gains should learn not to become attached to their overpowered niches.

Again, this point doesn't take away other valid concerns for getting PPMs implemented reasonably.

Hosting it from the private section of my photobucket account.

Also, could have been tinyurl'd, but hotlinking in any case is not netiquette friendly (considered stealing bandwidth) and can get you in trouble if the host changes the picture associated with the link to something that is NSFW.

If you mean the Health and Stealth procs, I can pretty much guarantee they won't be touched. And if they are, then I will carve my own pitchfork.

Yes, there is. It's called not letting something become overpowering.