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Quote:With pain, cursing and occasional keyboard brutalising.Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
On a tangentially related note: now that I have a reason to send emails, I'm getting freshly acquainted with just how utterly terrible the multi-line text box widget is. It's shamefully bad. I have no idea how people manage to write mission architect arcs using this thing.
...Oh, and thats just the Character detail box. Dont get me STARTED on writing AE arcs.
Whoever is responsible for that little nugget in I14 this is for you. To quote BaBs;
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Quote:Trust me, it's more than possible. Maybe not in PvP, but one shotting does, can and will occur in PvE. Thats what makes snipers such a pain to face in certain zones. Its what makes Bosses with certain powers in AE really hard to balance (Build up and Headsplitter, Energy Transfer, Total Focus, anything ST and high damage. Still one hit.)Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Admittedly my recollection might be a little off, but I can't recall ever being one hitted by anything, even GM's and bosses even when trying to do level 1 runs to Crotoa for double the costume goodness.
Been group one shotted though where a spawn turns on you and WTF owns you in a wave of hits. -
Good Points: It's really fast
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Bad Points: Uhm....everything else?
Chalk me up for 'prefered the old UI, even if it was a three legged mule.' It worked. Why change the bit that worked great to fix the one thing (albeit the thing that was very crippling for people with slower connections, I know it used to be the same for me) that didn't work?
Devs, please...can we have this changed back? -
Good luck, and may life be long and happy =]
(Pssst! Whatever you do, don't forget the birthdays/anniversarys! Or you'll be eating cold dinners for a fortnight, or something! ;>_> ) -
Quote:I can let you fight the bugger if you like, once I add Build up back onto him. Katana/Regen Scrapper, level 32. One shot, one kill. It was just the boss. Trust me on this one, it was a rather distinct Oo moment.Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Are you sure there were no other sources of damage? A minion or LT attack at the same time? You were at 100% HP when the fight began?
I'm pretty sure all attacks in the game are incapable of reducing a players HP by 100%
I think the same mechanic is why you can plummet and drop down to 1hp, but never be killed no matter how long the fall is.
I suspect this is more to balance Giant Monsters, how unfair would it to be one shotted by a giant monster as you're loading out a mission? -
Quote:That depends wholly on your character.Originally Posted by Omega_Chief
Just to counter the Game Mechanics vs RP, I hate that so gods damn much, if we go off game mechanics we can have a street gng member fill us with lead from a machine gun and not have to worry about it until burst number six, so personally I don't think basing what you can do in RP soley off 'I can do it in game though!' is a good idea.
IC vs Game Mechanic, Chief, Vixen, Wolf and Fox shouldnt have to take ANY damage from simple machine guns (except the sort of anti-everything ammunition folks like Malta would pack), due to armour and being made out of metal. Sure, they worry about other things, like flamethrowers, sonic cannons and giant, super-strength wieldeding claws, blades and massive missile launchers.
Some things we just have to hand wave, hate them though we may.
Like the fact im coming to realise, that it's impossible to make the Chief properly in game until they give us a PPD hardsuit powerset with guns/armour combo =[ -
Quote:Not true, actaully.Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Still couldn't one hit you, player characters can not be one hit.
It's possible that some how you could be hit hard enough that the D.O.T component of an attack could take you down, but that mechanically counts as two hits.
In an in character sense, I've always explained it as the medical systems stabilizing a person prior to teleporting them.
Of course that's just my opinion on the IC/GP mesh, others are likely to disagree.
Otherwise the custom boss in the AE mish I was testing out wouldnt have been able to use BU+Headsplitter to one shot me. Which he msot definately did.
Unless PvP mechanics stop one-shotting, which is more than possible, given how wierded up they are. -
I'd just like the options for Slicer, Longfang or Webmaster (the one we get atm) backpacks.
And yes, they are different. If you haven't noticed, let me show you;
Slicer. No glowy bits, longer spikes;
Longfang. Short/next to no spikes, glowy laser parts.
Webmaster. Spikes and laser parts. What we get atm.
Even those choices would be cool.
Hmm...those pics make me tempted to go and replace a lot of the really old pictures on the wiki... -
The look of the new one, from the little I saw on test (havent gone back to it on Live yet) reminds me of the EVE interface...
And, believe me, EVE warped my head something awful >< -
Quote:If it has a backside that can be kicked, Jen for one will do her damnedest. Physically and mentallyOriginally Posted by Fanservice
It can on rare occasions be a good thing though. Cerridwyn can show how justice driven she really is when she's basically putting a living god on notice, fully aware she has no real chance of beating them. No one's above the law! Even if her version of it is ridiculously unbending.
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Quote:"Great, just what we need; Mad Science and Fascist nutjobs duking it on the streets."Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
TV screens across the land flickered, replaced by the now infamous skull and cog logo. This was no advert, the standard old school method of Mechano was showing true.
Edward appeared on screen and he looked angry, really angry, possibly angrier than anyone had seem he before...a righteous fury etched onto his face.
"This is a warning to those heroes of Paragon City, stay out of our way...this is far more personal than you could imagine...since you have failed at cleaning up this Humanity First filth, who preach hate and lies within your own city, to ignorant, uniformed citizens who have no right to decide on ANYTHING!"
Edward took a deep breath, "People of Paragon, by now you know of Project Chimera, I will say this...Project Chimera is Alpha and the Omega. She will be the start of a new breed of superhumans and she will be the end of Humanity First..."
"Ordinary citizens, you have nothing to fear, you will not be harmed this is personal business...the same goes for you caped crusaders out there, as I said before...stay out of her way and the only ones that will be hurt are those faschists in Humanity First."
"If there's one thing I cannot stand...it is bigots...whether they discriminate against gender, age, skin colour, religion or the empowered...I am a fair man, I have no bias against those wishing to partake in the New You program...any and all are welcome at the Toasty Dreams private hospital, I never turn a soul away because of who they are...I am empowering those who are informed enough to make the right choice...to choose freedom..."
"Paragon City...consider yourself warned...."
With that the signal cut out, returning to your scheduled programming.
"You know that's not going to happen."
"I like the way you think, Chief."
"So, I take it that means we're turning up?"
"You can try and stop me keeping an eye on it if you want..."
"Enough." The figures took a step back from the monitor they had been watching. The largest, a towering being of silver steel and red markings, the robotic extraterrestrial hero Chief Centurion Z1, folded his arms.
"We will be going. First, I'm curious to hear what these goons have to say. Second, personal or not, this is Paragon City. Edward Mechano is a wanted criminal. And we will not stand idly by and let chaos over-run the place.
The two power armoured brothers, Z22 Pyre Fox and X21 Ice Wolf, known to most by their fire red and icey blue armour and as Fox and Wolf to most, exchanged a glance, before nodding.
"I'll keep up high. You know me and crowds," Wolf said quietly, shifting the redding rifle that was strapped over his back.
"Heh, I've got a few questions to pose to the fascist fanbois," Fox chuckled, making a show of cracking the knuckles of his suit. "And a few burning responses if needs be."
The last figure, a slim and shapely young woman with firey red hair and, more eye catching, brick red fur and pointed fox ears, sighed as she pushed her round glasses back up her nose.
"In that case, I'd better be on damage control," Kitsune Vixen quipped, giving Fox a wry smirk. Doctor at Chiron Centre in Atlas, field Lieutenant and medical officer for Vanguard, she was no slouch in a firefight, but her psychic powers and empathic aura were also put to good use when it came to healing. "Make sure you lot don't get carried away."
"We'll have the crowd and the conflict to deal with," the Chief pointed out, giving the screen a long look. "One can only hope we're not the only ones to take note of this...And hope no one acts too rashly, either." -
If I could have done this with my first Tanker, I would have made him Energy/SS with Invul...Just Invulnerability, I think. Its more his attacks that have never sat so well with me.
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I think this is also why I picture Recluse very much like Lord Vetinari, of Terry Pratchett's Discworld;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havelock_Vetinari
He's not popular with everyone. Some people loathe every breath he takes. He's a politcal genius, a mastermind, a trained master assassin in his own right, has an army of attack clerks and ninja lawyers at his disposal (I kid you not. Think of Oddjobs hat...) and a self declared Tyrant and Dictator.
And he's utterly indispensible. The times where people have made attempts on his life or attempts to replace him have shown this in no uncertain terms. The city bends and creaks when the man who keeps the cogs oiled smooth is taken away. Everyone says 'Oh, things were better before all this', but they are rich, organised and prosper BECAUSE of the Patrician.
All he has to do is BE. And thats where Arachnos fails, because they interfere and take far too much of a hand in things. If they were more like the City Authorities under Vetinari, intervening where necessary, and with suitable wheel greasing (troop movements, mercenary contracts or making offers to reknowned Villains, e.g. us lot) then it would read, sit and play a lot smoother.
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This is why I utterly, utterly despise 'Patron' pools being locked away behind an arc.
This is why I was actually cussing when I found out that, to do the end level content, I had to have bowed and scraped to Arachnos through two long and mediocre arcs.
"Oh, you cant have these better powers without kissing Arachnos' boots."
"Oh, your level 50 and are really tough and experienced, but we wont let you do the last SF because you didnt kow-tow to us."
Go to hell, Spider boy!
Why should, for example my Stalker, Von Schaden, have to do Ghost Widows arc to unlock shadow powers? She's, what? 40-ish? If she was still alive? I dont know, nor do I really care. Max Von Schaden is an 113 year old German cybernetic-super-soldier who spent his Nazi years being an assassin and shadow master, who specialised in using and killing magical techniques, heroes and beings. Why the HELL does he need 'permission' from some dead ***** to use powers that should come naturally to him?
(Sorry GW, I think your cool really :P But the mechanic sucks)
Unlocking Villain PPPs and, heck, giving them MORE would be a big move towards this, IMO. That and the LRSF. If he wants States dealt with, he can damn well cough up and hire the best. End of discussion. I shouldnt have to bow and scrape for the dubious honour of getting beaten up by the cheaty, overpowered Phalanx.
(Yes, sorry, I hate that last mission too. Its basically Jackanism in purest form, and its fail) -
Quote:GG, I'm sorry, but I'm being serious here. As other people have said, you haven't played Redside. Ever. You really don't know what the heck you are talking about when it comes to redside. Period.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But what you're asking for is for your own constant failure and imcompetence - if villains can't affect the game world, then their schemes will always have to end in total failure - your plan to take over the world, or build a moon laser to wipe out Paragon Ciity, or empty the vaults at Fort Knox will always end in 100% failure, because success would mean the game world would have to change, and failure would keep the game world as it is.
Right now, the game lets you successfully kill, kidnap, rob and destroy while working for Arachnos - you're given various evil tasks, and you carry them out with 100% success.
Would it really be more fun to swap you career of successful evil for one of failed evil just because Recluse won't say "please" or "thank you" or invite you round for a beer to watch the game?
Arachnos is a really BAD game mechnaism, shoe-horned in by Jack. Yes, they are cool. I really like Arachnos, myself. But the way you are FORCED to kow-tow to them is not, and that is what really should go. -
Quote:No...no, more like this;Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Asking "how high?" when Relcuse says "jump"
"How far do you wanted to be blasted into orbit? I'm sure you'd just looove to try that immortality schtick on, y'know, having no oxygen to breath, no food or drink, and sure as hell no minions. You hearing me, Lord Leggy? Stay the hell outta my way. Or I'm going to get myself my team, and bring all kinds of godawful technological hell to your doorstep. And you are going to reap the whirlwind.
I'm watching you... Your Lordship."
Thats pretty much what Alpha would say to Recluse if he treated him like a minion. He doesnt care about Arachnos world domination plans...so long as they stay the frag outta his way. -
Quote:....Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
True, and if we must do filthy, let's have a Zozo themed area! It's still the same grim and filth, but a different enough interpretation to be a change in pace.
(Zozo: The town in Final Fantasy VI where it always rained, virtually everything was broken and all but literally held together with spit, and it was expected of virtually every citizen to be a pickpocket and con artist.)
Sounds a little like this...
Part of that reminds me of The Pink Panther theme tune... Oo -
Quote:If Statesman can nearly die from a nuke, then my main character should be able to give him something to cry about. Alpha is an Army of Seven, him and his team. They pack enough firepower to phases Statesman. So the LRSF is really a big 'F U' from the Jackanist era that I really hate. I will re-run it and beat it this time (Got mah nukes ready...) for the hell of it...then probably never touch it again.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You can actually see a tolerable version of him in Mender Silos' villain arc. He scales down to EB there, and he spawns player level, so it's a good place to take him on without having to beat the game at its own game. Not like Statesman the ARCHVILLAIN in To Save a Hero, where spawns as a level 54 Archvillain and proceeds to hit people for 5000 hit points per punch. Jack's subtle way of reminding us that the Statesman is and always will be better than us.
That's I1, though. In I11, you can slap the guy around on your own, which shows me, at least, that the development team is leaning our way, at least a bit. The Statesman is still tough as nails and he still cheats, but he's beatable with enough bravado. And that, really, is all I can ask for. -
Quote:Yeah, I don't mind Arachnos being the big-bad. IMO, it does work, and fits with the 'So long as you dont mess with them, they dont care about you' thing.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I don't see them actually controlling any large areas of the city
I think it's the most reasonable way to explain why you can't go visit the other side - if there's no open world PvP, then there has to be some reason for heroes and villains to be kept apart - and Arachnos works just fine for explaining why we can go over to the Rogue Isles and force the villains underground.Quote:I know that that is in part due to game mechanics, and the Jackanist way the game was built (I love that turn of phrase) but even so.
The problem is, they then go and ruin it by tying nearly all your contacts into Arachnos. Project Destiny, the Arbiters, the Quatermasters, all that schtick. Thats not 'Go, be a great Villain, just dont mess with my plans!' and more 'Go, do as I say, and dont question me, or you die! Mwahah /e moustache twirl'
Last I checked, Recluse didnt have room for a moustache. I always imagine him being much more enigmatic, a bit like Lord Vetinari or Dr Doom. He certainly sounds it in the CoV CGI trailer. Then they go and ruin it a bit in game, which is a shame.
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Quote:Every street corner, in broad daylight, is back foot?Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But while crime's still a problem in Paragon City, the villains there are very much on the back foot - like apart from a few areas...
I know that that is in part due to game mechanics, and the Jackanist way the game was built (I love that turn of phrase) but even so. -
Teams of all DS MMs are really rather destructive. I was out Bruted, out Dommed, out everything. Heck, it was hard to get to the mobs sometimes.
And yeah, FotM dies down, every time It can be funny while it lasts though.
Although I am getting a tad sick of the Ember demon roar sound. Its...really a bit too loud, IMO. Cool ,but a bit grating after the umpteenth time >< -
Quote:Hrm...I think maybe they should tie a LOT more importance to the choice of trainer at the beginning.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Basically, that's what I personally want. My choices don't have to have long-lasting consequences as long as what I do feels like my own choice. Basically, I want contacts to feel like a source of informations, at most partners in crime, not my bosses. I want to, when threatened or blackmailed, to have my reaction be to slap the guy in the mouth and still come out victorious DESPITE what he may want me to do. If defying someone is going to have consequences, then put me through the consequences. I don't mind. I'd sooner get the crap beaten out of my and snag a victory by the skin of my theeth than kowtow to Daos because he said so.
You know what? I feel it was a capital mistake to tie CoV's infrastructure to Arachnos so completely. We rez at their reclimators, we shop at their Quartermasters, we train at their Arbiters, we fly on their choppers, we confer in their Fortunatas... This is not good, people! Why can't I train with some underground unofficial sensei down in the sewers? Why can't I shop for enhancements from the "connected" neighbourhood bartender? Why can't I resurrect in the shanty town illegal reclimator? Just ANYTHING that doesn't tie me to Arachnso! Then we wouldn't have stupid arguments like "Yeah, well they can just turn off the reclimators and you're dead!" Now that's a narrative cop-out if ever I saw one.
How's about this: I give Daos the finger and next mission I walk into an ambush mission. I walk into a door, fade to black and I wake up in an Arachnos cell. O noes! Whatever will I do? Well, kick down the door, to start, then carve a path through their base big enough to sink ships in, and pinch my way through back topside. Then I waltz back to Daos and see him try not to sweat bullets. Good times
Point is, let me defy Arachnos, let me walk into trouble, let me get myself cursed. Let me do STUPID things, and just slap me with severe consequences that I can eventually fight my way out of. That way, it still feels like everything is my choice, because when people try to act tough with me, I defy them. Even if defiance is the only option, it still assumes my character can think for himself.
Kalinda = Loyalist. You are willing to be a part in the machine. Sure, you may scrape a big something off the top and the sides where you can, but Arachnos seem like a decent way to make a mint, get to who you want to get at, or whatever diabolical (or not) goals you have in mind.
Burke = Army of One. The system? The system is what you say it is. Arachnos can have their Darwinism alright, on the recieving end of your boot. They get in your way, you crush 'em. Anyone gets in your way, you crush 'em. Heck, anyone looks at you wrong, you crush 'em! Rules are something other people abide by! Let the rise begin! -
Hence my like of the new missions.
You still end up doing the same things. You still end up beting on x number of enemies, you still fight certain groups, and you have the same end boss.
But you PICK how many X is, you can do things in slightly different ways, you can choose bits of the aftermath. It might not be 'huge' choice, but its enough to really add enjoyment to it. -
Quote:Knockdown I can see happening. But the Devs had said there are reasons, both technical and otherwise, why EATs aren't getting power customisation.Originally Posted by SoilentGreen
That change should be made...and while they are at it, might as well give us an alternate animation option like Footstomp. Oh, and power/color customization.
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Suggestion;
Rikti AT. Unique, side specific storylines (Options of Lineage of War (Evil) and Traditionalists (Good). Branching AT much like VEATs.
Rikti Earth zone. More in depth on the backstory. Maybe allow the treaty to go through (although that would require more rewriting.)