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According to Mid's Hero Designer current Acc is +142,3%. I hope this will be enough. But i think real problem is HP cost of the power and if i can be able to use Aid Self while during using OG.

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I've read that you can overcome it with Health 1 slotted or something.

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There's no guides! :O i looked but found none =( Im hijacking this thread and making it to "Hey! I can PL with my stonemastery better than ur psi mastery" thread!

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_Spirit's guide to Awesome; Fire/Kin/Earth (_Spirit)[8]

That would be very very cool! The alt I've been trying with is level 15 and solos very poorly

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lol Who'd pick Earth Mastery as an epic? That is soooo last week.
(Pssst this thread is mainly for perma mez protection for fire/kin/psi, not the uberness of stone )

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He must have read one of those n00bish guides out there...

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No probs! I'll see if I can get it on one of my alts, and then have someone hold the mission so I can complete with my main.

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Buy 2x KB Prot Io's and this is teh [censored]! ^^
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,20
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Righteous Eye: Level 48 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Hover -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Speed Boost -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Cinders -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Hasten -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Assault -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Tactics -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Transference -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Fissure -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Rock Armour -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Earth's Embrace -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Increase Density -- Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment

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lol Who'd pick Earth Mastery as an epic? That is soooo last week.
(Pssst this thread is mainly for perma mez protection for fire/kin/psi, not the uberness of stone )

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Then again, the LOTG would only be up with venge, correct?

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Nope. The +rechg part is one of the special ("always on") globals. Only the +def part requires a click.

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Ah. But still, I'd have plenty of recharge anyway.

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Also, can I have peoples thoughts on swapping leadership for fighting? It'll make me sturdier, but that'll be one less LoTG IO spot. Then again, I'd get +5% from tough still...


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u wont lose the LoTG rech spot, weave gives +def not +res

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Um, I was talking about vengeance.

Then again, the LOTG would only be up with venge, correct?

Hey, just thought I'd say that I'm looking for the spelunker badge mission! If anyone's got it/is expecting to get it, please give me a global tell at @Spirit.

Thanks!

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.20
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Burn Spirit: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- G'Wdw-Acc/Hold/Rchg(A), G'Wdw-Acc/Rchg(3), HO:Perox(7), G'Wdw-Acc/EndRdx(37), G'Wdw-EndRdx/Hold(43)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Acc-I(A), Dct'dW-Heal(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(45)
Level 2: Ring of Fire -- Decim-Build%(A), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Decim-Acc/Dmg(34)
Level 4: Fire Cages -- TotHntr-Acc/Immob(A), TotHntr-Acc/EndRdx(5), TotHntr-Dam%(46)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- Sciroc-Dam%(A), ImpSwft-Dam%(9), EndRdx-I(9), EndRdx-I(34)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(11), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(15), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(13), Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(15), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(19)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 18: Boxing -- B'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Tough -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSkn-Status(23), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(23), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25)
Level 26: Weave -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(27), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(27), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- Jump-I(A)
Level 30: Smoke -- ToHitDeb-I(A), ToHitDeb-I(31)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33), EdctM'r-PetDef(43)
Level 35: Transference -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), EndMod-I(36), EndMod-I(36), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Indomitable Will -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-Status(45), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg(50), Posi-Dmg/Rng(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]+2% DamageBuff[*]+4.5% Max Endurance[*]+9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]+4% Enhancement(Heal)[*]+5% Enhancement(Immobilize)[*]+61.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]+3% Enhancement(Stun)[*]+99.2 (9.75%) HitPoints[*]+Knockback (Mag -4)[*]+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 60%)[*]+MezResist(Held) (Mag 60%)[*]+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 65%)[*]+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 64.4%)[*]+MezResist(Stun) (Mag 60%)[*]+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 62.2%)[*]+5% Recovery[*]+4.1% Resistance(Fire)[*]+4.1% Resistance(Cold)[*]+3.13% Resistance(Toxic)[*]+5% RunSpeed[*]+4% Debt Protection[*]+PBAoE (20ft) Pet +Def(All) 5%[/list]


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Thar be my build. I'm not going to get ALL of those enhancements, as I simply won't have the money. Ever. But It's a build to work towards, and I will get the recharge I require at some point. I'll not be overly fussy about enhancement levels, just as long as I get good bonuses. I'll start with the cheap ones too.

Any flaws in this build? (And no, I want to keep my fighting! )

Ah, I guess I went a bit overkill on global recharge perhaps? Mine has 63.8%, but you get on fine with 48.8%? Interesting, I'll sort out a bit of a simpler build recharge-wise (Hopefully cheaper too)

Each one of those IOs beyond the third adds around 6% recharge, which is the equivalent of one of those set bonuses. I definitely need those in IW, guess it's not as essential in hasten.

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Then carry on wasting slots, I was trying to give you advice

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I've moved those slots out anyway, 'cos I calculated that I'll have enough +rech for it with 2 siphon speeds.

Also, can I have peoples thoughts on swapping leadership for fighting? It'll make me sturdier, but that'll be one less LoTG IO spot. Then again, I'd get +5% from tough still...
(I have tough+weave atm and frankly it is handy, though in my current playstyle I don't tend to flashfire much. I guess I could adapt to using it every spawn, but the animation irritates me. I can't imagine the boredom of Flashfire followed by Psi Tornado...)

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People are too recharge focused, a little bit of downtime on hasten is nothing, people gimp builds just so they can say WOO I HAVE PERMA HASTEN! 3 slot hasten

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No, I want perma-hasten so I can keep my recharge constant, so I always get its 70% recharge buff, so I can keep mez protection up perma.

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I certainly wouldnt 6 slot hasten, slots are tight as it is on a fire/kin anyway, and in terms of recharge you are only saving like 6 seconds with the extra 3 slots. Not worth it imop.

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Might take out one or two of them to go where needed, hasten will be perma with 2 sip speeds if I take out those three extra, I guess...

Oops, meant to put kb protection in ID instead of +3% def.

Regarding Fire epic, I need mez protection!

Transference, well, I found this fine recharge wise, 10 secs is plenty, for half my end.
Tactics: Okay, I'll HO that.

Anyways, where do I pull slots from for transference, if it needs it?

All defenders should be good on teams, if you pick the right power choice. Unfortunately, alot of people are only out for heals, and so want empaths, but what can you do? It's possible to get good teams anyway with most sets.

For soloing, good primaries are Dark, Kin, Rad and maybe storm.
Most secondaries are OK, but for damage you'd be good going for sonic, psi or rad.

So, freespec comes out today! And now, after a vetspec, 2 freespecs(I think) and 3 trial respecs, I can finally respec Burn again!

Now, I thought I'd come to the thought pool that is the forums to have a brainstorm about what sort of build to go for.
It has to have(In order of want):
-PvE farming effectiveness (My basic criteria, for easy mobs like family )
-Good effectiveness against carnies (Because they drop magic salvage)
-LOTS OF ORANGE NUMBERS!!!!!!!!!11!111oneon1111!!11!onethree

I would like it:
-To have mez protection. I don't like going power hungry on a mission with council or something, and then going onto carnies and getting held first thing. This makes it look like Psi is gunna be the epic.
-To be durable. On my current build, I have tough, weave, cj, rock armour and Earth's Embrace. Very hardy. However, if some of that has to be sacrificed, so be it.
-To be cheap. My main priority is to get perma mez protection though, which will require alot of money. However, being already 50 with fire/kin, I think I can rack it up quite well.

Not really needed:
-PvP
-Exemping


So, without further ado, here is attempt one at my build. It's gunna be far from perfect, but that's why I'm asking for help!
I'm gunna update my fire/kin guide once I get the build onto my controller, and will credit people who give me a good hand.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.153
http://www.onthejazz.co.uk/hu/mhd.php

Burn Spirit: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- G'Wdw-Acc/Hold/Rchg(A), G'Wdw-Hold/Rng(3), G'Wdw-Acc/EndRdx(7), G'Wdw-Acc/Rchg(31), G'Wdw-EndRdx/Hold(31)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Acc-I(46)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 4: Ring of Fire -- Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- Sciroc-Dam%(A), ImpSwft-Dam%(9), EndRdx-I(9), ImpSwft-Dmg/Slow(43), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(15), Acc-I(37)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(13), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(15), Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(17), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFtn-EndRdx(19), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+(27)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 26: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A), ToHit-I(40), ToHit-I(50)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(31)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33)
Level 35: Transference -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), EndMod-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Indomitable Will -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- ImpSkn-Status(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(45), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg(50), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Increase Density -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)


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+2% DamageBuff
+3% Defense
+2.25% Max Endurance
+18% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+4% Enhancement(Heal)
+2.5% Enhancement(Held)
+63.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+3% Enhancement(Stun)
+53.4 (5.25%) HitPoints
+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 30%)
+MezResist(Held) (Mag 30%)
+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 37.2%)
+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 32.2%)
+MezResist(Stun) (Mag 30%)
+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 32.2%)
+7.5% Recovery
+10% Regeneration
+5.67% Resistance(Fire)
+5.67% Resistance(Cold)
+3.13% Resistance(Toxic)
+5% RunSpeed
+2% Debt Protection


This build, according to my calculations, should have IW perma with 3 siphon speeds up. Hasten is perma as well.

Input plz!

Wednesday sounds good!

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...but ice has more good powers in the set than all the defender secondaries combined

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Ice has a nuke?!?

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Defenders have a good nuke?!?

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It's a good power, not a nuke comparable to that of blast0rz!

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My Kin/Elec's got a good nuke after its had some fulcrum loving

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*Points to this being a FF related thread*

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...but ice has more good powers in the set than all the defender secondaries combined

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Ice has a nuke?!?

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Defenders have a good nuke?!?

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It's a good power, not a nuke comparable to that of blast0rz!

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...but ice has more good powers in the set than all the defender secondaries combined

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Ice has a nuke?!?

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Thanks for the comments back guys, think I might roll one up and give it a go! I have an Ill/Sonic troller already and he can stand up fairly easily in team PvP but it'll be nice to see how the buffs from FF differ from Sonic

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Any powerset that both controllers and defenders get are better used on controllers. I know there'll probably come some defenders crying here about better better percentages but I'd take control over better percentages and pitiful damage any day.

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Have to agree with you there 100%, except you can't beat a bit of good dark defending

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Nor can you beat a bit of Tangerine resonance.

On the Awesome factor, that is.

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For PvP you'll be in high demand for baseraids but not much else than that I'm afraid.

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/FF is so under rated...

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I think it's waaay better for defenders, reason being that defenders can cap def (with maneuvers). This is vastly different to what controllers can do.

MvdP, IMO Defence is always better than resistance. After all, it can cover more damage types, AND if a mezzing attack misses, it doesn't mez! (Plus defence stacks really well, and I have Rock Armour stacked with CJ, Weave and smoke for uber defence!)