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Originally Posted by Dante

Original Post updated with Krimson Guard, no link added though as I couldn't find one.

As for everything else, I'm glad you've all kissed and made up now but couldn't you have had the courtesy to take it to an OOC thread for the plot? Not really what I'd intended for this thread.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

Hmmm.

1. Start the PVP overhaul. Instead of a giant I13 "drop the bomb," start rolling back or adjusting a bit at a time. Given 3-5 months between issues, changes would be made either each or every other issue, datamine it and tweak as needed. (Probably with a mid-issue adjustment.)

2. Yes, costume creator overhaul. Some of those lists get long. While overhauling, try to set it up so that nobody has to go and have the tailor say they have to pay for things that aren't changed... Also, non-shiny-metallic options.

3. Base/SG overhaul. This starts from the Registrar's desk on down. Make finding/contacting a SG easier (as well as letting them describe themselves better,) redo the base editor, make the bases more fine-grained, long hallways, raise only part of a floor instead of the large blocks, have a PVP vs non-PVP base "checkmark" that will check for pathing and mark your base as raidable, sort items by scale, put in more items - the list goes on.

4. Expanding the world - and adding more EATs. Spread out to Europe? More Incarnate lore, perhaps. Egypt? Bit of time travel and more reason to focus on lore with the Blood of the Black Stream. And yes, the Coralax as we go underwater... somehow.

5. Polish and add content. Dark Astoria, the Shard, Crey's Folly all need content. Bring all of COH up to the same graphical standard. (This is, of course, a long term project.) Start the rebuilding of Boomtown as a 2-3 year, multi-issue project.

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

If you can't RP a superman OOC, then please don't roll one IC.

Originally Posted by DeviousMe

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Chill there a sec. I told you in a perfectly normal, straightforward, and entirely civil manner how I feel about this, why I feel that way, how this looks from my point of view, and then requested multiple times that if I was wrong I please be told so.

How is that exploding?

As to what I want you to do? Communicate with those outside your insular group when creating things that will affect them. What's wrong with kicking a quick PM or such my way that says, 'Hey, mind if we make the Onionverse?' before going ahead with it?

As to a serverlist merge? No, I've not been involved in one. However, despite there being no precedent for it, or rather because of that lack, I believe that open communication and being considerate to your fellow players is very important, and that it's not right to cut people out of that process.

Originally Posted by Omega_Chief

The issue with The Crossing is we have the potential (And I know at least one person doing some planning involing) vast World/Universe/Multiverse altering plots, which folks on the Unionverse who don't check/frequent the forums/that thread wouldn't feel that nice about being forced to acknowledge the undead necormancer who set up an icey throne in the middle of Perez Park.

I'm pretty sure none of us like to be Godmodded do we? Which is why it's only fair not to godmode other people.

It's reasons like this widescale plots take a lot of time and effort on Union, informing everyone about it, getting it roling, not having it limited to the forums and all, but even then we're still limited as we can't change certian things about the world.

And given how Kings Row is a popular place to live and work for many people and a Giant Robot Crab has leveled a small chunk of it, how do you think people would feel if you just slipped into conversation:

"Oh yea, that part of the Row got Wrecked pretty good"

When the other person might not know about it. Having many people sharing the same background has it's upsides and it's downsides, and this is one of the latter.

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

I recall one of the transformer series where the transformation was from human -> transformer.

The dub for that series was so bad. So very very bad.

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

To be fair I can see his point, maybe he thought as I did that this would be a fine opportunity to lay some ground work for a character to use in Union server RP, only for it to turn out it's been vetoed behind the scenes?

Honestly it's a perfectly plausible plot that fits well within the setting, so why the ***** fit?

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Some of the smaller transformers would fit in fine in Union (say a headmaster maybe) and Hobbits would work fine as well. Exhalted depends ont he type and level, though I can see a low level Exhalted being RP'd as a fully IO'd and Incarnated character. Heck Omy has his sort of Exhalted super group.

Originally Posted by DeviousMe

Y'know, it would've been very nice of said 'peeps' to maybe include everyone involved in this plot in that 'discussion', and not just foist this up solely from within their little clique. I always hear terms like 'concensus', 'community', and 'shared RP experience' touted on in regard to Union RP - and then I see this happening. I'm really getting a sense of 'you keep using that word; I don't think it means what you think it means' here.

So instead it's decided to force 'the outsiders' to acknowledge what was decided. 'Godmoded into the floor'. Hm. That's a nice way to sum up how I feel right about now.

I can see that. And y'know, I may be wrong about this, so please correct me if I am, but from what I see, those 'some people' look to be the majority of players who comprise the Unionverse group.

Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point I'm getting the picture that this 'shared RP universe' is all talk, no substance, and just like any other 'RP instance', as you like to call it - not to mention with the additional caveat that efforts are made to actively exclude the creations of anyone not a part of the core clique and to make the Unionverse as insular and shut-off as possible from the greater CoX RP community.

Honestly, I don't quite know what to think about that. I don't generally play on Virtue, so I don't know all their RP crowd does and doesn't, but I can tell you one thing: over there, they don't say one thing, and then do another.

Now somebody please show me that I'm wrong. Because I'd really like to be.

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Hmmmm I'm counting crossing as cannon, since I've used it to jump a character from a different game into regular (for me) use.

Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU

*shrugs* And i am just voicing MY opinion over it.

It is just as valid as yours....

Originally Posted by Rebel_Scum

So if I'm understanding that right, and assuming the right things based on it, then anything involving characters who aren't on the Union server itself is considered non-canon at least to some extent?

Originally Posted by DeviousMe

Well, that may be true for those sticking only to in-game RP, but for the forumites, I'd suggest you go check out this thread. It's set in the Unionverse.

Originally Posted by Vanden

Okay, you come up with a good reason for the Well to share power with Hero and Villain PCs equally without making it amoral.