luck of the draw?


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I have a 50 controller, Frozen in Time, who needs two more Enhancement Catalysts (EC) to complete his superior archetype set. I copied him to the Beta server and bought a set of 24 Super Packs, 120 bonuses altogether. Only one of those was an EC.

So he "bought" another Pack. The sixth set of cards offered the second EC. So out of 150 bonuses there were just two ECs, classified as "very rare". The x100 reward merit bonuses are also classified as such, but I got six of those. Was that just luck of the draw, or are some very rares rarer than other very rares?


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Originally Posted by cohRock View Post
I have a 50 controller, Frozen in Time, who needs two more Enhancement Catalysts (EC) to complete his superior archetype set. I copied him to the Beta server and bought a set of 24 Super Packs, 120 bonuses altogether. Only one of those was an EC.

So he "bought" another Pack. The sixth set of cards offered the second EC. So out of 150 bonuses there were just two ECs, classified as "very rare". The x100 reward merit bonuses are also classified as such, but I got six of those. Was that just luck of the draw, or are some very rares rarer than other very rares?
There's no way to answer that question based on such a small sample. I'd check the beta forums rather than posting about it here. That's where you'll find any threads that exist where people are tabulating results and computing the averages based on those results.


 

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First off you have an approximately 79% chance to get a single Very Rare card in each pack (and you will never get more than one). Secondly the VRs are weighted differently and based on Arcanaville's testing it looks like about 15% of Very Rare cards are Catalysts.

So overall you have about 11.85% chance of getting a Catalyst in a given pack.


 

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Was that just luck of the draw, or are some very rares rarer than other very rares?
Yes to both.
Numbers for Super Pack 1: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=284104
Numbers for the upcoming Super Pack 2 (numbers subject to change before release, of course, and subject to some margin of error): http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=292324

For what it's worth, even on average, and after obtaining all of the Elemental Order costume pieces, a Super Pack has only a roughly 1 in 9 chance of containing a Catalyst. Personally, I got zero from my 24 packs, and only three from the 30 packs I later purchased with reward tokens.

Edit: 1 in 9, not 1 in 7. My bad.

Double Edit: Also, I've found that catalysts are pretty easy to get from Incarnate trials. They don't exactly rain from the sky, but I usually get a catalyst every few runs. They can drop in Dark Astoria too, but I haven't found them to be nearly as common there.


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
So overall you have about 11.85% chance of getting a Catalyst in a given pack.
That's pretty much what my experience was - and that was why I stopped buying packs (even through Paragon Reward Tokens) and just started to grind them on my melee ATs, unslot and convert them to something more useful. My experience was about 1/10 - every 9 to 11 packs resulted in a Catalyst.


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