Sacrificing too much? Water/Dark/Mace...


plainguy

 

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The goal was simple...S/L/E softcap using Mace Mastery. (My original plan was Def and Resists using Lev, plus I find KO Blow too much fun. But that...that build was horrible).

I did it, but I felt dirty afterwards...

Thoughts? I would like to improve recharge buut...yeah...

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
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Level 50 Technology Blaster
Primary Power Set: Water Blast
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Aqua Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Penumbral Grasp -- DblAc-Stun%(A)
Level 2: Water Burst -- Posi-Dam%(A), RechRdx-I(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(13), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Posi-Acc/Dmg(15)
Level 4: Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25)
Level 6: Death Shroud -- Erad-%Dam(A), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(15), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(29), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 8: Tidal Forces -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(9)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 12: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(36)
Level 16: Dehydrate -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Acc/Heal(17), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(19), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Achilles-ResDeb%(21)
Level 18: Soul Drain -- RechRdx-I(A), Erad-%Dam(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Water Jet -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Knock%(37)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), GA-3defTpProc(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(43)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 28: Whirlpool -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A)
Level 30: Steam Spray -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(31)
Level 32: Geyser -- BlastersW-Acc/Dmg(A), BlastersW-Dmg/Rchg(33), BlastersW-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), BlastersW-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), BlastersW-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), BlastersW-Rchg/Dam%(34)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(46), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46), LkGmblr-Def(48)
Level 44: Summon Spiderlings -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(45), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(45), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(50)
Level 47: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Touch of Fear -- Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(3)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
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"Believe me, if I could teleport myself into a woman I wouldn't be playing this game. " -Cyberforce

Global: @Red Shadow

 

Posted

This is a port over from my DP Dark. I honestly thought my DP Dark was gonna suck moose butt, but leveraging the PBAOE and Barrier incarnate I am soloing DA on 4/8 with my DP Dark. I thought the Knives of Vengeance where going to give me trouble, but it seems I had more issues with those Kheldian police mobs then anything else. I needed to wipe a few times to figure out what I was doing wrong. Once I got their M.O. down it was much easier.

End result Water does have some real nice AOEs that work well with Dark.

On my DP Dark my fights start off with Spring Attack followed by Soul Drain and an AOE attack. Spring attack knocks downs foes a decent amount of the time. If I could get my hands on a KD procs for more chance to KD it might be better, but I'm okay with it either way. This is pretty much how I am going to do it with Water as well. Currently not at level 50. I do Whirlpool followed by Water Burst to get the KD. It seems Whirlpool forces mobs to run out of it. At 50 I can see Geyser being put into the mix and when that is down just add in Dark Pit for the stun to keep them in the AOE. Combined with the boost that Soul Drain gives Death Shroud things end up dead pretty quick.

I went with Agility because I want Geyser and a few other key attacks up as much as possible. In this instance I think recharge will beat out the DPS that musculature gives. As a simple example, My Geyser is at 59 seconds @ 461 DPS and yours is at 69 seconds @ 506 DPS. End result over 2 minute period I am dishing out 922 and your doing 506.

But you can pull up the builds side by side and make your own choices and changes.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Level 50 Natural Blaster
Primary Power Set: Water Blast
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Manipulation
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hydro Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(43), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(43), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(45), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(46)
Level 1: Penumbral Grasp -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob:50(40), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx:50(40), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng:50(40), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg:50(42), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob:50(43)
Level 2: Water Burst -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(3), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(9), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(37)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(5), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), Oblit-%Dam:50(9)
Level 6: Aid Other -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Shadow Maul -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb:50(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb:50(11), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg:50(11), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), SipInsght-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(13)
Level 14: Aid Self -- Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), Numna-Heal:50(15)
Level 16: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(17), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(17), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(19), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(21), Oblit-%Dam:50(31)
Level 18: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(19)
Level 20: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(21)
Level 22: Whirlpool -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(23), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(23), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(25), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(25)
Level 24: Dehydrate -- Entrpc-Heal%:35(A)
Level 26: Steam Spray -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(31), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(31)
Level 28: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(29), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(29)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow:50(A)
Level 32: Geyser -- BlastersW-Acc/Dmg:50(A), BlastersW-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), BlastersW-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), BlastersW-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), BlastersW-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), BlastersW-Rchg/Dam%:50(34)
Level 35: Dark Pit -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg:30(A), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun:30(36), RzDz-Acc/EndRdx:30(36), RzDz-Stun/Rng:30(36), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg:30(37)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(39)
Level 41: Spring Attack -- Range-I:50(A), FrcFbk-Rechg%:50(42), Erad-%Dam:30(42)
Level 44: Scorpion Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 47: Summon Spiderlings -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg:30(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg:30(48), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(48), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg:30(48), RechRdx-I:50(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(46), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(50)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon
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1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives