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Need Help With DS/FF Build!!!

Aphrodite Gwenavire

By Aphrodite Gwenavire,
Posted on: 2012-04-30 13:18 in Masterminds

 

Posted

I'm new to the game, and I need some help building my character which I just got up to 48 (almost 49). Being my first character I do not have a lot of influence and will probably using standard I.O's. I have read a few of the guides here and this is what I came up with, it is probably all wrong, so any advise would help a lot!!




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Level 46 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Heat Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings

  • (A) Edict of the Master - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
  • (3) Edict of the Master - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
  • (3) Edict of the Master - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 40
  • (5) Edict of the Master - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
  • (5) Edict of the Master - Damage: Level 40
  • (7) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus: Level 40
Level 1: Force Bolt
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (36) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (36) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (37) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (40) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 2: Deflection Shield
  • (A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
  • (7) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
  • (9) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 4: Insulation Shield
  • (A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
  • (9) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
  • (11) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 6: Enchant Demon
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 8: Corruption
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (23) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (34) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (34) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 10: Fly
  • (A) Flight Speed IO: Level 50
  • (11) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 12: Summon Demons
  • (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
  • (13) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (13) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (15) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (15) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (39) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura: Level 50
Level 14: Lash
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (37) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (37) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (39) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 16: Personal Force Field
  • (A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
  • (46) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (46) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 18: Hell on Earth
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (19) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (19) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (21) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (21) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 20: Crack Whip
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (43) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (43) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (43) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 22: Aid Other
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 24: Aid Self
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (25) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (25) Healing IO: Level 50
  • (31) Healing IO: Level 50
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince
  • (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
  • (27) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (27) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
  • (29) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (29) Blood Mandate - Damage: Level 50
  • (31) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing): Level 30
Level 28: Repulsion Field
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (33) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 30: Maneuvers
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (31) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (33) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
  • (33) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (40) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 35: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (36) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 38: Force Bubble
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (39) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (40) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 41: Tactics
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (42) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (42) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50
  • (42) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50
Level 44: Bonfire
  • (A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (45) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (45) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 47: Fire Ball
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (48) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  • (48) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
  • (48) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (50) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 4: Health
  • (A) Healing IO: Level 50
  • (23) Healing IO: Level 50
Level 4: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 4: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
  • (17) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
  • (17) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
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Very quickly, on regular SOs, I'd recommend going with the Mace patron power pool - it gives you some extra defense, has a very nice AoE immobilize (and a single target hold if you want it) - and most importantly, power build up so you can crank your shield buffs up to ~25% defense. Add in Maneuvers and Dispersion Bubble and your demons sit about 40% defense to all. Very sweet.

Heat Epic Pool is okay, but doesn't lend much. Mace will make your damage-dealing demons that much tougher.

53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.

 

Posted

I also see way too much END reduction on toggles, travel, etc. Even using your attacks, you shouldn't have much END problems with FF.

Yes, my 53 bots/FF is incarnated, but I didn't go for Cardiac or Ageless or other end-reducing incarnate powers, because I didn't need it.

I also see you didn't take dispersion bubble, its a mandatory power and one of the good ones from FF.

Also, you have Repulsion Field (Worthless END-beast), and I advise against taking it. Force Bubble is similar enough, and doesn't kill your END bar by half.

If I can, I'll post a quick build.

53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.

 

Posted

Here's a data chunk:

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...99F90778A8CA3F

And a build:

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(3), Dmg-I(3), Dmg-I(7), EndRdx-I(9)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- Acc-I(A), KBDist-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 2: Deflection Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(9), DefBuff-I(15)
Level 4: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(11), EndRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(13), IntRdx-I(13)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Hover -- DefBuff-I(A), Flight-I(50)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(15), DefBuff-I(17)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(17), Dmg-I(19), Dmg-I(19), EndRdx-I(21), ResDam-I(21)
Level 14: Aid Self -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(23), RechRdx-I(23), EndRdx-I(43), IntRdx-I(43)
Level 16: Personal Force Field -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Hell on Earth -- SCotMastermind-Rchg/PetAoEDef(A), EdctM'r-PetDef(25), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(25), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(27), SvgnRt-PetResDam(27)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(29), DefBuff-I(29), EndRdx-I(31), EndRdx-I(31)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(31), DefBuff-I(33), EndRdx-I(33), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 24: Corruption -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(33), Dmg-I(34), Dmg-I(34), EndRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), Dmg-I(36), Dmg-I(36), EndRdx-I(37), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 28: Fly -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Tactics -- ToHit-I(A), ToHit-I(37), EndRdx-I(39), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(39), DefBuff-I(40), EndRdx-I(40), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 41: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 44: Crack Whip -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(45), Dmg-I(45), Dmg-I(45), EndRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Afterburner -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 4: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(5)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(5), EndMod-I(7), P'Shift-End%(48)
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Its not a pricey build. You can get the Numina's and Miracle IO uniques in Health from simply running some tips. I consider them valuable and it summs up most of my END woes for my FFers. As an MM, don't spam your attacks, you don't need to, but use them often enough to keep the -Res on hard targets. On the rif raf, don't bother unless you want to stay active for the fun of it (which I do).

I put in Dispersion Bubble, which you were lacking - its 11% defense for you AND your demons, and offers some pretty decent status protection as well vs. holds, stuns and immobs. Its a cornerstone power.

I got rid of Repulsion Field. Trust me. if you want area denial, you have Force Bubble.

I personally advise using Hell on Earth as a set mule for all the MM pet uniques - which total to +10 Defense vs. all, ANOTHER +15 Defense vs. AoE (that puts your pets at incarnate cap vs. aoes, very nice), and +20% resists.

If the new ATO sets which are pending are released, I'd put the next ATO IO here as well (currently it is ANOTHER +10% resist and +regen for pets). HoE's little imps are not up often enough and are rather frail that you are IMO, better off slotting your pets well, and turning HoE into a set mule to make the regular pets even tougher.

Most of the Pet IOs are not terribly expensive (2-8 million if you are patient), and you can always use Merits or Tips to purchase them, too. They are well worth it.

You can always toss a -Knockback IO into Hover when you wish, but since you don't need to tankermind with this build, its not a big priority, just a 'nice to have'.

The Demons eat Endurance, so I slotted them well. If you ever IO them one day, be warned that -END in pet damage IOs doesn't affect the Prince's slow-based attacks, so you may need to franken slot him with some slow IOs that have -END to get him under control. There are some good posts in this forum on that if you dig down.

I like to use Afterburner, not only for quick travel, but to alternate with Pers. Force Field to boost my defenses, since PFF is on a long timer. I do that frequently on certain Trials (warehouse in Lambda) or when coming under fire and I want to Aid Self. Both are available to you, and essentially do the same thing (boost you toward the def. cap and over).

Fly was overslotted. I believe you hit the fly speed cap on merely Swift+base Fly (until you use Afterburner, of course). Hover is already pretty fast for indoor content.

Just my way of doing things. Food for thought.

Hope you enjoy your mastermind, you'll have very tough pets, you will also not be squishy yourself, and you bring solid damage, some decent -resist and some controls, to the table.

53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.

 

Posted

well you know i am blue side. i really appreciate the build you made though and helping me.

 

Posted

Very welcome, and Welcome to Paragon City!

53 Bots/FF/Mace Mastermind | 53 NRG/FF/Electricity Defender | 50 Time/Dual Pistols/Soul Defender | 50 Demons/FF/Mace Mastermind | 51 Necro/Dark/Soul Mastermind | 50 Thugs/Time/Mace Mastermind | 50 Ice/Ice/Arctic Tanker | 50 Plant/Rad/Earth Controller | 50 Illusion/Trick Arrow Controller | 50 Gravity/Force Field Controller
Yes, I like Force Fields.

 

Posted

Here is my stab at a compromise build. I included some set IOs just for the split def/end not to max out set bonuses. I think they should be cheaper ones as well.

The big powers switch I did was dispersion bubble for repulsion field. I think you might want a fire shield, too, but personal force field lets you patch up, so, eh.

Good luck.


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Aphrodite: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Heat Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- EdctM'r-Acc/Dmg(A), EdctM'r-Dmg/EndRdx(3), EdctM'r-Acc/EndRdx(3), EdctM'r-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), EdctM'r-Dmg(5), EdctM'r-PetDef(7)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 2: Deflection Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(7), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(9)
Level 4: Insulation Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(9), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(11)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Corruption -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(11), Dmg-I(23), Dmg-I(34)
Level 10: Fly -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- SCotMastermind-Acc/Dmg(A), SCotMastermind-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SCotMastermind-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SCotMastermind-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SCotMastermind-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SCotMastermind-Rchg/PetAoEDef(39)
Level 14: Lash -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(37), Dmg-I(37), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 16: Personal Force Field -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 18: Hell on Earth -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(19), Dmg-I(19), Dmg-I(21), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(43), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 22: Aid Other -- RechRdx-I(A), Heal-I(37), Heal-I(40), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 24: Aid Self -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), Heal-I(25), Heal-I(31)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Dmg(27), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(27), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), EndRdx-I(29), ImpSwft-Dam%(31)
Level 28: Crack Whip -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(33), Dmg-I(34), Dmg-I(40), EndRdx-I(43), Dmg-I(46)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(31), DefBuff-I(33), DefBuff-I(33)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42), ToHit-I(42), ToHit-I(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(46)
Level 44: Bonfire -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(45), EndRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45), Dmg-I(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(48), Dmg-I(48), Dmg-I(48), EndRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 4: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(23)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(17), P'Shift-End%(17)
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