You won't lose much if you go for a mix of: AH proc, negative proc and four other pieces of +acc/damage/end.
I went with: Blood Mandate, acc/dmg, acc/dmg/end, dmg/end and one acc/dmg from Edict of the master. 3 pieces of Blood gives you some +defense which I like.
Most full pet sets bonuses suck anyway. I rather go with mix and procs.
For Genins, I put one pet unique and purple +build up proc because you have 3 ninjas with a lot of attacks.
For Oni, you can put another pet unique and MM ATO aoe defense. Oni is still bugged. It still shows he takes knock back set which he has none! lol Funny how he can't even take hold/immb set. Poor thing. It's been broken for over 5 years and I've reported numerous times.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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But don't the tier 1 as group do less damage then the tier 2s as a group do to lvl conning? if thats the case doesn't still make more sense to put the build up proc in the tier 2 or even the tier 3s don't the oni's controls all count as damage powers?
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
You won't lose much if you go for a mix of: AH proc, negative proc and four other pieces of +acc/damage/end.
I went with: Blood Mandate, acc/dmg, acc/dmg/end, dmg/end and one acc/dmg from Edict of the master. 3 pieces of Blood gives you some +defense which I like. Most full pet sets bonuses suck anyway. I rather go with mix and procs. For Genins, I put one pet unique and purple +build up proc because you have 3 ninjas with a lot of attacks. For Oni, you can put another pet unique and MM ATO aoe defense. Oni is still bugged. It still shows he takes knock back set which he has none! lol Funny how he can't even take hold/immb set. Poor thing. It's been broken for over 5 years and I've reported numerous times. |
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1. Build Up procs only happens at 17% chance and the duration is only 5.25 second, which is not long. This proc doesn't yield as much damage as a regular damage proc IMO because the pets need to have more attacks to make it worth it. Genin cycles the most attacks. Yes, they deal less damage but at least they can enjoy the build up effect more. |
Originally Posted by Cheetatron
But don't the tier 1 as group do less damage then the tier 2s as a group do to lvl conning? if thats the case doesn't still make more sense to put the build up proc in the tier 2 or even the tier 3s don't the oni's controls all count as damage powers?
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2. As a group, 3 Genins do more damage than 2 Jounins in most cases because Jounins have very weak range attacks and their caltrops fear mobs away which make them chase/hit/chase/hit.
3. Genins can't take -Defense debuff sets. Only Jounins can. The two procs in -defense sets are very good for pets. If all of Genin's attacks have -defense, I won't even bother with the build up proc.
4. Oni has Char and Ring of Fire and both are control powers with damage. Prince Demon has similar powers and yet he can take Hold set. If they don't want pets to take Hold set, then why making an exception for Prince Demon? Prince Demon is superior than Oni in every way. Prince Demon is basically Oni-done-right.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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I see now
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
1. Build Up procs only happens at 17% chance and the duration is only 5.25 second, which is not long. This proc doesn't yield as much damage as a regular damage proc IMO because the pets need to have more attacks to make it worth it. Genin cycles the most attacks. Yes, they deal less damage but at least they can enjoy the build up effect more.
2. As a group, 3 Genins do more damage than 2 Jounins in most cases because Jounins have very weak range attacks and their caltrops fear mobs away which make them chase/hit/chase/hit. 3. Genins can't take -Defense debuff sets. Only Jounins can. The two procs in -defense sets are very good for pets. If all of Genin's attacks have -defense, I won't even bother with the build up proc. 4. Oni has Char and Ring of Fire and both are control powers with damage. Prince Demon has similar powers and yet he can take Hold set. If they don't want pets to take Hold set, then why making an exception for Prince Demon? Prince Demon is superior than Oni in every way. Prince Demon is basically Oni-done-right. |
What about the-def proc, It active enough? how many time it stack?
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Originally Posted by Yorukira
What about the-def proc, It active enough? how many time it stack?
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All of Jounin's attacks have -defense except for poison dart so the chance is not bad when you have two ninjas doing it. In a short fight, the -resist is probably not noticeable but it should definitely help during a long fight. It is very worth it if you can afford AH proc. The negative damage proc is good too because when it happens, it's almost like a critical damage for them.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
That great but i still want to know if it Stack the -res proc. If IRC for other AT it won't b/c it come from the same source. But from MM it should stack since they come from two separate "source". but how much that would be?
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Achilles Heel -Resistance can NEVER stack, EVER, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. The source of the proc does not matter.
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
I want to know how much sloting porc help your pets.
For example if I sacrifice a Some DMG on Joinin to place a DMG proc, if it make up for the lost DMG?
Or how often the Achille's Heel -res active with his sword attack?
if it stack how much?
Any other INfo is much apreciated
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