Alternate Universes


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Given how magic in the CoH universe works, the robots taking over might well result in there being no magic. After all, that's what happened on the Rikti world. They somehow wiped out magic by destroying the gods' followers at some point in their history (or prehistory). Humanity gets deep sixed in a cataclysm, and the robots that take over might not have magic to play with.
But the Rikti are psychic right? I suppose this is a matter for some dispute but psychic ability pretty much counts as magic in my book. Not that I object to it really, I mean here I am playing a game about superheroes scientific accuracy isn't real high on my list, I'm just trying to be clear here is all.

But never mind, this takes us off the subject of alternate universes.


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Given that there's a universe where your Hero destroyed humanity in his or her or its bid to become ruler of the world, it suggests that there could similarly be a world where your Hero succeeded without destroying humanity.

Considering how the incarnate storyline has shaken out over time, it might be interesting to revisit that alternate universe and tie it into the whole thing somehow.


 

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I think we can ignore the exact duplicate universes and all the universes with only minor changes to Earth's history--you know, the boring ones where the only real difference is that Synapse decides to have a ham and cheese sandwich and coffee for his Wednesday lunch instead of his usual fish tacos.
You have no idea what a ham sandwich can do.


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Given that there's a universe where your Hero destroyed humanity in his or her or its bid to become ruler of the world, it suggests that there could similarly be a world where your Hero succeeded without destroying humanity.

Considering how the incarnate storyline has shaken out over time, it might be interesting to revisit that alternate universe and tie it into the whole thing somehow.
Creepy part about it: my main Katana/SR scrapper would strongly consider that. He's my ONLY character (yes, even my villains would prefer to just have their own private city or something small than taking the whole world) who would seriously consider he might do a better job running the world (and potentially the cosmos since he's been asking 'why aren't the good guys doing anything to stop the bad ones?') than anyone presently doing it.


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City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

 

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A ham sandwich is better than complete happiness...


And it's easily proved, too -- Nothiing is better than complete happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing...


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Oh believe me, I'm well aware of the butterfly effect. I know that the smallest changes in the initial conditions of any complex, dynamic, nonlinear system, as the Earth and human society certainly are, will lead to huge changes and surprises anywhere down the line of that history.

I'm just saying that in an infinitude of universes, some universes are more dramatically boring--within a set of limited criteria--than others. It may be that the "Synapse eats fish tacos on Wednesday" universe is dull for Synapses life but it might be very exciting for some person that the City of Heroes canon doesn't deal with.

Of course all universes will be interesting and surprising--even with the infinite and eternal duplication--but we have to limit ourselves somehow just the sake of telling easily digestible stories.


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Given that there's a universe where your Hero destroyed humanity in his or her or its bid to become ruler of the world, it suggests that there could similarly be a world where your Hero succeeded without destroying humanity.
Yep, as person, perhaps unfairly labeled as a villain, you have a chance that your master plan could succeed and somehow save the world and humanity despite all the naysayers. Probability dictates that there must be universes where you are right and vindicated.

But I wonder how that might play on the mind of the version of the villain that failed--to know that there are versions of yourself, perhaps even an infinite number of them, that succeeded. Especially if that villain knows that there is technology or magic that can take them to these universes.

Throw in time travel and it gets even more baroque. There might be villains or heroes to trying to learn from their mistakes in other histories and then going back in time in their own universe to try to correct these mistakes.


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I devised Britannic Earth as part of the background for one of my characters.

A strain of preternatural perception arose in the British royal lineage, and several monarchs made key enlightened decisions regarding colonial practices. These practices defused rebellious sentiment in the colonies, which eventually became semi-autonomous member states of Great Britain. As a result, the sun truly never set on the British Empire, and eventually every nation on Earth became willing members. The Pax Brittanica persisted for centuries...until a previously insignificant gang of demon-worshipping street punks botched a ritual so badly that they literally unleashed Hell on Earth.


The Way of the Corruptor (Arc ID 49834): Hey villains! Do something for yourself for a change--like twisting the elements to your will. All that's standing in your way are a few secret societies...and Champions of the four elements.