NEED Help With My Base Plz on Defiant-3Mill to spend


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Hi
I have returned after a 2 3/4 Yr break, My base is ok It was made in 2005 but compared to most I have seen (Coalations etc) my base doesnt look as great as theirs :-(
Its pretty basic with only 1 floor (having 2 floors I have no idea what to do friends have explained but i just dont get it)

Im on Defiant server and I am looking for somone with a spare alt slott on Defiant, make an alt and to join my SG and become the base builder (with my input on style etc).

If you can and wont be able to thank you enough ;-)

Plz contact me by posting/send me a PM, or simply send me a global message @Flush-VIP
And i will get back to you asap....

P.s. If you join you can stay in SG ' The Paragon School For The Gifted ' also get a special promotion with all privilages, just as a leader (Exept the Kick out of SG option).

Thanks - Steve


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Hi
I have returned after a 2 3/4 Yr break, My base is ok It was made in 2005 but compared to most I have seen (Coalations etc) my base doesnt look as great as theirs :-(
Its pretty basic with only 1 floor (having 2 floors I have no idea what to do friends have explained but i just dont get it)

Im on Defiant server and I am looking for somone with a spare alt slott on Defiant, make an alt and to join my SG and become the base builder (with my input on style etc).

If you can and wont be able to thank you enough ;-)

Plz contact me by posting/send me a PM, or simply send me a global message @Flush-VIP
And i will get back to you asap....

P.s. If you join you can stay in SG ' The Paragon School For The Gifted ' also get a special promotion with all privilages, just as a leader (Exept the Kick out of SG option).

Thanks - Steve
Magic the Gathering Red magic user? Heh, I am Blue/White/Black. Go figure all I play on CoH is fire.
I have 2 huge projects toward their final phases. I cannot help with the base build, but if you need a tutorial in game how to stack a second floor then send me an ingame tell or global email and I'll try to help the best I can be it appearance or ingame chat. Second floors are very easy and new item movement makes it even better. Forget what you knew 3 years ago, editing has been alot more fun since then.

Good Luck and hope you find an editor dying to stack Legos.


 

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Thanks for the links cannonfire...

But im really after a SG builder only as I have read loads and had advice from frinds and im still getting nowhere fast lol.

I do have a question though that i forgot to ask...
As I have 3 mill to spend I can now upgrade plot size but i dont really understand which rooms i need for what I.e. Control room and how many connections are needed, i have a control room in my base but can not connect (think i need AUX but it says im maxed)?

And would it be better to sell most things like wall lights so I can plan base shape withought the square turning red coz there is something blocking it on the walls etc?

NEED to know whats the deff between the normal plots and the secure plots?
As secure costs a lot more?

Thanks again.....@Flush-VIP


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Thanks for the links cannonfire...

But im really after a SG builder only as I have read loads and had advice from frinds and im still getting nowhere fast lol.

I do have a question though that i forgot to ask...
As I have 3 mill to spend I can now upgrade plot size but i dont really understand which rooms i need for what I.e. Control room and how many connections are needed, i have a control room in my base but can not connect (think i need AUX but it says im maxed)?

Rooms have a kind of default connection. The room sometimes finds an alt doorway when one is blocked by items. If you are having an item in doorway issue, just remove those items and you should be good to go.

When I made a small base to big base,I kept in mind the plot change(after countless headaches I learned my lesson). The cathedral base was based on a modular base that had versatile hall segments built so I could always center a hall with the ready made chandeliers. It worked brilliantly, so in this phase for deco purposes along with room location changes due to plot size increase... you should keep that in mind. IMHO

As far as which rooms for how much prestige, also depends on how many SG unlocks you have to say which items better suit you. I am not too pro with the mainstream rent free base cuz I was always earning prestige at a high rate. "Which rooms?" were never my issue. With secure plots, for me, granted the ability for 2 of the biggest energy and control items, aux items from that point on is purely deco IMO. Huge bases are exetremely overkill so seeking it is probably more along the lines of earning prestige out of habit or trying to top 100 your SG. I got to 41 on Liberty as a 1 man SG and I was satisfied with that and moved on to stacking more legos and still have more prestige then I know what to do with.

IMO, you have enough to build a no rent full functional base with all the storage. Now that bases allow teleport pads to have 6 locations, I dont see mini bases having any trouble at all. I would look under forums for rent free or mini bases. The most current thread would be the ports being hacked now. Those threads will probably talk about small bases and how they are going about with 3 million prestige.

As far as your control room not having aux item click "on". Make sure it isn't that starter control room(3x3), the one that turns the base on with a combo pack... that wont power you nor does it connect to aux control items. I could be wrong, but I think that may be your control increase issue. If not, I could be wrong and soemone else knows better. But if you have the first affordable control room(3x3) then thats your auxiliary problem.... I think...


 

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Thanks for the links cannonfire...

But im really after a SG builder only as I have read loads and had advice from frinds and im still getting nowhere fast lol.

I do have a question though that i forgot to ask...
As I have 3 mill to spend I can now upgrade plot size but i dont really understand which rooms i need for what I.e. Control room and how many connections are needed, i have a control room in my base but can not connect (think i need AUX but it says im maxed)?

And would it be better to sell most things like wall lights so I can plan base shape withought the square turning red coz there is something blocking it on the walls etc?

NEED to know whats the deff between the normal plots and the secure plots?
As secure costs a lot more?

Thanks again.....@Flush-VIP
You'll want:

An entrance room (included for "Well Duh" sake).
A control room (at least 2x2).
A power room (at least 2x2).
A Teleport room (at least 2x2, as that'll get you 2 telepads and a 12 beacons).

Optionals:
An Infirmary
A workshop

On the default plot you can fit ALL of these QUITE easily.

Here's a basic layout using Neo Shadowdream's web-based layout designer.



Note: The section of the layout taken up by TP beacons isn't really a room. It's just representing all 12 beacons so it's counted against prestige, power and control.

As you can see, this basic layout will run you just under half of your prestige budget. If you wanted, you could bump to a larger 3x3 or 3x4 (or even go to the 5x5) transport room if you wanted.

Factoring:
The Basic Generator/Power Crystal (T1 Power item)
The Supercomputer/Orbits of Control (T2 Control item)
12 beacons
2 hacked telepads

What's not factored:
Reclaimator/Res Ring
Vault
Storage bins (multiple types)
Invention Worktable
Base Item Workables (Normally I just pull these out as needed and make them go away when I'm done).
Empowerment Stations
Auxiliary Energy devices (to boost power)
Auxiliary Control devices (to boost control)
Decorations.

And the difference between Hidden and Secure?
Well, the Secure plots cost more. (Duh.)
Also, the Hidden plots allow a maximum of 1 main Power and Control device.
Secure plots allow for 2 main Power and Control devices.

My current main base has both the Autonomous Expert System (T3 Tech Control) and the Mystic Orrery (T3 Arcane Control) as well as the Fusion Generator (T3 Tech Power) and a Power Crystal (T1 Arcane Power).

The reason I went dual power in the first place was I liked the Arcane version of the Vault Door better than the Tech version. The only thing stopping me from going T3 Arcane Power right now (the Dimensional Vortex) is simply lack of free Prestige and the fact that I'm too cheap to convert the billion or so inf to make it so.

So, basically, unless you're intent on getting VERY fancy (decorative) with your base straight out, you can build pretty much everything you need and still have a big chunk of prestige left over.



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Rooms have a kind of default connection. The room sometimes finds an alt doorway when one is blocked by items. If you are having an item in doorway issue, just remove those items and you should be good to go. When I made a small base to big base,I kept in mind the plot change(after countless headaches I learned my lesson). The cathedral base was based on a modular base that had versatile hall segments built so I could always center a hall with the ready made chandeliers.

With secure plots, for me, granted the ability for 2 of the biggest energy and control items, aux items from that point on is purely deco IMO. 1 on Liberty as a 1 man SG and I was satisfied with that and moved on to stacking more legos and still have more prestige then I know what to do with. IMO, you have enough to build a no rent full functional base with all the storage.

As far as your control room not having aux item click "on". But if you have the first affordable control room(3x3) then thats your auxiliary problem.... I think...
Thanks I have thats where my control connection is - THX!

Can you explain - 'IMO, you have enough to build a no rent full functional base with all the storage'. I just need to know what rooms I need plz.

And with secure plots, for me also, will give me the ability for 2 of the biggest energy and control items which I will need.

I just need to figure out stacking now as I want my meeting rooom upstairs.

Thanks for everything - If any1 els has something they would like to add, plz drop a post. TY!


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Thanks I have thats where my control connection is - THX!

Can you explain - 'IMO, you have enough to build a no rent full functional base with all the storage'. I just need to know what rooms I need plz.

And with secure plots, for me also, will give me the ability for 2 of the biggest energy and control items which I will need.

I just need to figure out stacking now as I want my meeting rooom upstairs.

Thanks for everything - If any1 els has something they would like to add, plz drop a post. TY!

Okay, stacking has gotten MUCH easier.

Simply place an item roughly where you need it. Hold down the Shift key and move your mouse. It'll rise. Stop when it's where you need it.

Now, if you're looking to make fairly extensive second floors out of desks. it's easier to place a floor tile first, levitate it up where you need it and drop desks on top of it rather than individually place and lift each desk.



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Awsome ty very much, you have answered every thing i needed to know, just a shame though every room i have has wall lights and other items blocking me from changing my layout style and plot size withought going through the hastle as selling and moving LOADS of items around, it's going to take some time but now adleast I know what im doing so my time wont be wasted thx to you


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Awsome ty very much, you have answered every thing i needed to know, just a shame though every room i have has wall lights and other items blocking me from changing my layout style and plot size withought going through the hastle as selling and moving LOADS of items around, it's going to take some time but now adleast I know what im doing so my time wont be wasted thx to you
If theres nothing important in the rooms then simply delete them. If you're fond of a room so much and it's hard to let go then take alot of pics and let it go. IMO, as they add.. if they add.. more base abilities and/or items.. why stay with the rooms look? Just a thought in regards to deleting item by item.

Look at Hyperstrikes post(scroll up). Neo's base layout is amazing, makes me wish I used this forum to learn how to edit.


hotkeys that I am ware of:
holding down hotkeys while item is selected
[shift] moves up and down z-axis
[alt] pivots/swaps on z-axis
[ctrl] roam along X-axis & y-axis while maintaining height of z-axis