Struggling with the UI


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I don't know if I'm unique in this, but I'm increasingly struggling with the UI for a number of reasons. It's getting tougher to navigate - with an excess of clutter that is quite tough to sort through.

A few examples are - but that's by no means definitive:

  1. Character Item email: loads of stuff in there now. I've bought a few super packs, I've bought some IOs from the market and stuff and when I am searching for something there it's a nightmare. Scrolling down is clunky (mouse scrolling doesn't work for me, is that a bug or WAI?) and the inability to move the bar between item and description means I've got a very narrow space to look in
  2. Temp/Inherent Powers: The increasing number of temp and inherent powers, all lumped into two columns just make sorting and searching stuff difficult - where's that Backup Radio, and what the hell did I do with my MiniHVas? Again the problem is too much clutter.
  3. Invention Recipes: The whole confusion between recipes I own, recipes I've memorised, legacy recipes I've used... (I've still got the Lost Curing Wand listed) it's clunky. It's not as bad as some of it but it can often take a while to sort through what I'm looking for.
  4. Incarnate Powers - I've got to make several clicks to get to my incarnate window. It would be really nice to be able to click a small button in my UI to call that. It's arguably too important to have to click to Powers and then Incarnates. I've never quite understood why the Incarnate window works like it does. The Enhancement management screen just works. Why can't the Incarnate Management window work like that? (Similarly the AH UI is pretty horrid and search is broke there too)
One of least bothersome features is the Salvage Management window - the tabs there do a pretty good job of sorting stuff into neat categories and make life much much easier (though I'm bugged that you can't sort tabs into custom order and I'm not sure why Astral and Empyrean merits are in Special rather than Incarnate stuff. That generally means an extra check for me.

It's great getting more features, but the problem is the UI lags behind the new shiny and has done for a long time. It's an important QoL issue for me and I suspect I'm not alone. We've got so many more power options than simply primary, secondary, pool and epic pool, with AH temps, Vet/PP rewards, crafted temps, mission temps etc. It could really do with some love IMO.



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Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
It would be really nice to be able to click a small button in my UI to call that.
/macro 50+ "windowtoggle incarnate"


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I don't know if I'm unique in this, but I'm increasingly struggling with the UK for a number of reasons...
Welcome to Britain.


 

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I don't know if I'm unique in this, but I'm increasingly struggling with the UK for a number of reasons.
Yes, I struggled with the UK when I was there on a student exchange practice some years ago, but people tell me it's just because I was in the Birmingham area

A bit more seriously, I agree about e-mail item claiming. That's a horror show, because those items never seem to use the e-mail body to put in their description and you can't really mess with the size of your e-mail columns. I feel that using e-mails to do this was a mistake to begin with. It needed a better system, one that's a bit better suited to being browsed, or at least one that's full-screen with more real estate.

As for mouse scrolling, have you checked what your mouse scroll speed is set to? The UI has this quirk where you can enable mouse wheel scrolling as an option, but its scroll speed still remains stuck at either 0 or 1, which essentially doesn't scroll. I can't check right now, but there's a slider option for it somewhere in options. Mine's set to about 80, I believe.


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/macro 50+ "windowtoggle incarnate"
Thankyou that looks great. I'd not heard of that but it's a shame there's not a "proper" button for it like the shop etc.

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Welcome to Britain.
Trust me... I know how it feels. Silly typo tho now fixed

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Yes, I struggled with the UK when I was there on a student exchange practice some years ago, but people tell me it's just because I was in the Birmingham area

A bit more seriously, I agree about e-mail item claiming. That's a horror show, because those items never seem to use the e-mail body to put in their description and you can't really mess with the size of your e-mail columns. I feel that using e-mails to do this was a mistake to begin with. It needed a better system, one that's a bit better suited to being browsed, or at least one that's full-screen with more real estate.

As for mouse scrolling, have you checked what your mouse scroll speed is set to? The UI has this quirk where you can enable mouse wheel scrolling as an option, but its scroll speed still remains stuck at either 0 or 1, which essentially doesn't scroll. I can't check right now, but there's a slider option for it somewhere in options. Mine's set to about 80, I believe.
I'm a transplant to the Black Country (just by Brum) and it's not nearly as black as it's caricatured but I know what you mean.

Email in general is a nightmare I feel. Guild Wars got that so right and CoH gets it so wrong, and yet the way the Vault system has been implemented would be very easy to transfer/store additional stuff, and more importantly, browse it.

I'll check the scroll thing. That could be (part of) the problem.



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/macro 50+ "windowtoggle incarnate"
/macro 50+ "toggle incarnate"

That one works as well to open the Incarnate window.

I use it regularly on Beta and will use it more on Live once I22 hits.


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As for mouse scrolling, have you checked what your mouse scroll speed is set to? The UI has this quirk where you can enable mouse wheel scrolling as an option, but its scroll speed still remains stuck at either 0 or 1, which essentially doesn't scroll. I can't check right now, but there's a slider option for it somewhere in options. Mine's set to about 80, I believe.

Just checked and that's a fix. Thanks Sam



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As for mouse scrolling, have you checked what your mouse scroll speed is set to? The UI has this quirk where you can enable mouse wheel scrolling as an option, but its scroll speed still remains stuck at either 0 or 1, which essentially doesn't scroll. I can't check right now, but there's a slider option for it somewhere in options. Mine's set to about 80, I believe.
I believe it was around the time the Market was introduced that I discovered that the mouse scroll speed on all my characters were reset to 1. It took a couple of weeks of being really annoyed before I thought to check the Options to see if there was a setting.


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Just checked and that's a fix. Thanks Sam
Glad I could help I remember someone mentioning this way back when mouse wheel scrolling was first introduced, so I was forewarned before I even attempted to use it.

I generally like the way City of Heroes options and settings are laid out, but there are quite a few traps like this.


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