Fire/Kin: Controller vs. Corruptor in endgame/iTrials


 

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Thinking of rerolling my Fire/Kin Controller as a Corruptor before I go crazy with the incarnates/trials.. thoughts? I'm looking for people that may have played both. Not sure how useful controllers will be against the AVs considering most damage comes from Contained HF..can you even contain AVs to get this damage? Do you find yourself getting beat down when in melee when trying to do damage with HF? Do you even bother with Seismic Smash or do you find yourself eating pavement while trying to pull it off? Do you have to joust to be useful?

I envision Fire/Kin corr being much safer by staying a little more at range by nature of Fire/ attacks, but not out of the range of FS & Trans x2.

On the flip side.. I could use my troller as mostly a buffer type (aka using mostly/exclusively Kin powers during an AV fight), whereas Fire/Kin corr might be too busy to sufficiently buff + max DPS.

Thoughts?

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Having hard control available against certain AVs in the iTrials is sometimes critical, or at least very very useful (keeping MM away from the well in the MoM trial, for instance). I would say that the combination of control and buffing that controllers have is every bit as valuable, if not moreso, in the iTrials than ranged dps and buffing. Especially if you tend to play a Corruptor as just another blaster and don't really do much buffing/debuffing for the team (but only for yourself). You'll certainly be in demand more as a controller, at least from what I can tell.


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Never played either as either, but with my experience with defenders and trollers, playing as a Corruptor won't really make Itrials better.

The advantage that Corruptors get is more damage, especially against AVs. In every Itrial, however, there are a lot more than just AVs. There are tons of enemies that need debuffing, are better held, or just need relocating.



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In issue 22 controllers will do containment damage to trial AVs even without them actually being controlled so that isn't an issue.

If you're considering range an advantage for corrs, remember why fire/kin is such a good controller combination in the first place - both sets thrive in melee. It's a good corruptor combination as well but you're still going to be in melee most of the time if you want to take advantage of your own buffs.

Finally, not to try to talk you out of a combination you enjoy, fire/cold as either a controller or corruptor would be much more powerful on trials than fire/kin of either flavor. Something to think about... it's quite the sexy combo.


 

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If you're planning on running a lot of BAFs (still the most fequently run trial) I'd stick with the controller. It's more useful in the escape phase than the corruptor would be. It can lock down pretty much a whole set of doors by itself.

The upcoming I22 change to controller containment damage in trials will be a boon too. Double damage versus the AVs at all times, instead of just when enough people stack holds on them.


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You don't want to use seismic smash (or for that matter, to pick the stone epic) on a fire/kin. RoF - Char - RoF - gap, where "gap" is a kin power, is where it's at for ST focused fights.


 

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Thanks for all the replies.. sounds like the controller will do just fine.

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In issue 22 controllers will do containment damage to trial AVs even without them actually being controlled so that isn't an issue.

If you're considering range an advantage for corrs, remember why fire/kin is such a good controller combination in the first place - both sets thrive in melee. It's a good corruptor combination as well but you're still going to be in melee most of the time if you want to take advantage of your own buffs.

Finally, not to try to talk you out of a combination you enjoy, fire/cold as either a controller or corruptor would be much more powerful on trials than fire/kin of either flavor. Something to think about... it's quite the sexy combo.
I had heard about this change but wasn't quite sure, excellent.

Also, yes I have been kicking around the idea of making a Fire/Cold corr as well. I did make one, but it is only level 12. I wanted to use the Cold set and I haven't yet (extensively), but I decided to go with Ill/Cold (rerolling from Ill/Rad). I want this to be an end game character as well. The Kin was envisioned to be my "buffer" and the Cold my "debuffer" and play them depending on the needs of the team.

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Thanks for all the replies.. sounds like the controller will do just fine.



I had heard about this change but wasn't quite sure, excellent.

Also, yes I have been kicking around the idea of making a Fire/Cold corr as well. I did make one, but it is only level 12. I wanted to use the Cold set and I haven't yet (extensively), but I decided to go with Ill/Cold (rerolling from Ill/Rad). I want this to be an end game character as well. The Kin was envisioned to be my "buffer" and the Cold my "debuffer" and play them depending on the needs of the team.

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Arbitrary Fire/Kin comparison? Roll a Tanker!