First WS All Human

Here is the semi-inexpensive build I cooked up after rolling a WS. Only truly expensive IOs are gonna be the procs, not putting purples on this toon. I might consider HOs if it offers a boost where needed.

This is going to be a tanker of sorts, not a lot of huge AoE damage (compared to a FA/SS or something), but more so just a single target rocking machine. Critique it please.

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The first goal for any Warshade that plans to IO out their build should be getting perma Eclipse. Even with Spiritual Core paragon, yours is missing by 12 seconds. It's best to have more overlap than that, as a reference point.

You say you don't want to spend a lot of cash, and yet you included two of the most expensive enhancements in the game with the Gladiator's Armor 3% defense and the Panacea proc.

You seem to be worrying more about some (quite frankly) directionless build goals than slotting your powers properly.

You say you want strong single target output? You might start by getting yourself a single target attack chain. That means you need to slot Essence Drain primarily as an attack. You also might want to rethink your Gravity Well slotting. The 2 Basilisk's Gaze are giving you e/n defense that isn't helping you reach 32.5 or 45% e/n defense. (You instead decided to focus on f/c/a for some reason, which I'll get to.)

Your Dark Extraction is gimpy as heck. It's sort of a "must 6 slot" power. 4 Expedient Reinforcements and 2 SA's are a great way to slot it, but 6 Expeidents work for some builds.

The best way to slot Eclipse is with 2 Nucleolus Exposures and 2 common Recharge IO's. There has been a lot of discussion on the board about this so feel free to look around on your own for the explanation. Why the heck are you trying to build fire and aoe defense w/ that Aegis slotting when you haven't even reached your (presumed) goal for e/n defense?

Your build goals are just giving me a headache. I see you 6 slotted Gravitic Emanation for AOE defense when your Eclipse isn't even perma.

I'm getting the idea that you have never actually played a Warshade, so you have no idea how to build a Warshade. If this assumption is correct I suggest starting off by playing The MFing Warshade to level 50. At that point, if you're still enjoying your Shade and you're still considering playing a Human Form Warshade, check out The "Complete" Guide to Human-Form Warshades. Both of those guides provide great insight into specific slotting approaches, play styles, and all around awesomeness.

Awesome response!

A few things:

You are correct in the assumption of never playing a WS. The reason for posting a build before actually playing one is I like to have a game plan going into the build before a start playing it, just me I suppose. Ive always wanted to build a WS/PB but never had the time or will to, but after taking a long break from CoV starting in i13 to just 3 weeks ago, it has sparked my interest to see a WS take on some of the AV's in the iTrials without so much as getting a scratch, malaise for one, as well as Hamidon in UG.

I was never worried about the cost of the IOs, and yes while gladiator and panacea are 2 of the most expensive, it wasnt the reasoning behind saying semi-inexpensive. Last I checked both run from 600-850mil+ a piece, but that still beats 300-600mil+ for 5 sets of 5-6IOs in a set. I was trying to build something without the use of purples. My SS/FA brute is a completely purpled out toon, i know the task of getting that many purples in a toon, didnt want to do it for this one. I apologize for the confusion of that statement. I will rephase with this; consider unlimited funding without the use of purples.

With the build I tried to go for all around defense as am trying to get away from the mentality of my brute. I see that playing a WS/PB is going to be a lot different in terms of AT playstyle I am used to. Once i get the hang of a WS I will come back with a cleaned up build. Thanks for all the advice, will definitely take what you said when i start playing.

As well I will be doing this AT the right way rather than PL or AE. I hope I have as much fun as I am thinking it will be. Thanks again.

Cheers

I can't comment on your build (because I haven't seen it yet), but you say you want to do a human form, and this is your first time running a warshade? And you plan on leveling it the legit way? I would really recommend you level it as a tri-form. Human form can be...hard to level with. Off putting, you might say. Plus, leveling as a tri-form will give valuable experience.


As an aside...since when were Glad armor and Panacea proc's under 2 billion inf a piece?

When i first came back to CoV about Dec 3rd time, first running through the BM (before i became rogue) to see what has changed I came across the Gladiator set and was listed for 40ish mil for the cheapest IO in the set at lvl 50 and around 800 something for the highest one. I remember this and thinking holy *$#@ that's an expensive IO, but then saw my purple sets had increased in price as well. It may have just been that day or just a recent price of a low selling point, but that's what I remember seeing it at. I actually, now that i think about it, have not seen a single IO over 1bil yet. Not sure if the markets are different across servers, when i first looked i was in Virtue and now im in Freedom.

I can say that I have not looked at them since then as I have not cared about selling/buying, just been playing the incarnate trials while building up my brute to +3. Still if the case remains that they are 2bil+ for one, I would have to reconsider purchasing them...if at all.

It's definitely true that prices have been in flux, but I find it hard to believe the most expensive/valuable IOs in the game are under a billion now...so yeah, I would check it out before planning your build around it.

If you're definitely sure that you weren't mistaken in the IO you were checking...perhaps it was a crazy fluke? I would have loved to buy a glad armor proc at that price.

Ok, other things to look at in your build (I won't repeat anything THB said, as he covered those bits well):

You have a lot of toggles on, and quite a large endurance drain. I'm hoping some of those were left on by accident, because you don't actually *want* to be running tough/tactics/gravity shield (assuming you get a perma eclipse build).

Your regenerative tissue proc will do you no good in your rez. That proc only fires if you actually use the power.

Despite your dislike of purples, I still recommend getting the absolute amazement set for Gravitic Emanation. It's one of the cheapest purple sets, and it's a better choice than force feedback.

The posi proc will help you better than the dam/range will, in positrons blast.

I could mention a few ways of slotting your other powers, but they all mostly fall under the "build for recharge" thing that THB covered.

I personally think it was a crazy aberration, since you all are telling me its 2bil+ and I myself just went and looked at it as well. At the time I didnt know what I was looking at, but in anycase, no big deal. I have plenty of time between now and 50 to gain 70 hero/villain merits with my brute to buy both procs.

Just something i was wondering though, "MFing" the only time ive heard that term is in Warhammer Age of Reckoning meaning "money farmer" but they way he was describing it, it was more a jack of all trades, as he put it. So what exactly does the M & F stand for in "MFing"?

Ill look at getting the Absolute set, and like I was saying, its not that I dont like purple sets (i have 5 in my brute; absolute, heca, arma, grav, and rag) I just remember what a drag it was to get the influence or have one drop during missions/farming.

I think buy it now price for GA on the market board is still 2.5 billion but I expect them to drop soon. You'll see them going for 2 billion flat on the auction house because that's the maximum bid you can leave in game. They're mostly sold on the forums.

As for the panacea proc, I would say that is selling for 2 billion everywhere. There were several for sale on the market last week and I paid a flat 2 billion and got one instantly at level 50 for my Warshade, as there were several more for sale I can't imagine people on the forums asking much more than that (unless at a lower level.)