Familiarity with Norse myth


evil_lemur

 

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Is it asking too much to expect this snippet to be enough to explain why a character named Hel is crippled? Or is this enough for most people?

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“An informal competition then?” The mercenary considered that a little bit longer. “I have noticed that some level of rivalry is healthy between units as it does encourage both sides to improve themselves.”
“Little Hel just likes to be the best, I think,” Issa said with a smile.
“Little Hell?” Damir responded curiously. “Is that what you have called your class?”
“No, that’s the girl’s name. Hel, one ‘L’. You know, the girl that Naiki Semezou was protecting for that fight. She was named after a Northern European legend or something. I think it’s because of her…condition.” He frowned and shook his head.
“What condition is that?”
“I shouldn’t have said anything, but you’ll probably meet her eventually anyway,” Issa said. “The Hel in the legends is kind of half alive. Her left side is supposed to be like a corpse. And the Hel I know, her left side is all withered up and weak. Mostly her arm and leg, but the whole side to some degree. I think her parents named her after the legend because of her problem. I’d like to talk to them about naming a girl that way.”
He frowned deeply as he finished.
“I believe I have seen this girl in the halls occasionally,” Damir said. “Red tattoos on her face.”
“If you see them up close, you realize they’re not tattoos. They’re some sort of birthmark or skin coloring. Anyway, now that I’ve told you, I should warn you not to try and help her if you meet her. Unless she absolutely needs it.”
“Why should I not help a handicapped individual?”
“Because she hates it. She likes to do things herself if she can.”
“Ah, that makes sense I suppose,” Damir noted.


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Well, it clearly explains that she IS crippled, and named after a mythical character crippled the same way. I'm not sure it explains WHY she's crippled, if there is supposed to be a particular reason beyond an unfortunate trick of biology or something. Of course, from just this excerpt out of context I don't know if this is the actual Hel of myth, or just someone named after her.
Somebody who doesn't know Norse mythology still wouldn't know this is a reference to that just from your excerpt, though, since you specifically avoided saying what mythology she's from. "An old Viking legend" could work for that instead of "a Northern European legend" perhaps, still without feeling like you're beating the reader over the head with it.


 

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It doesn't really explain why she's crippled, but it certainly beats you about the head and shoulders with the reason she's named Hel. And it seems a bit forced to me, but that could be due to it being excised from its natural context.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound

 

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that's comforting, someone commented that I was expecting too much from the reader to make the connection since apparently almost no one knows Norse myth and had to have this section pointed out to them to note I'd explained somewhat

granted, he's from the pre-reader set that don't normally read sci-fi fantasy....


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If you know that specific variant, then it's pretty clear. The thing is, the people who know that variant of the Norse myth won't need as much discussion about it as you have.

Of course, there are multiple versions of Hel, as mythology is rarely as clean and consistant as modern mythological compilers tend to present it. The Norwegian, Icelandic, Danish, and Scandinavian versions of these myths vary wildly from each other, as much as their languages do.


 

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You don't need Norse mythology for that. The parents named her Hel because of a deformity (definitely not a good-parent thing to do), so unless they waited until later in life to give her a name, presumably she was born with it.


 

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Either way i think the information is given clearly enough to understand the back story and interesting enough to progress it. Not that you asked for criticism right out...Also out of curiosity did you write this or is it written by someone else?


 

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Originally Posted by evil_lemur View Post
Either way i think the information is given clearly enough to understand the back story and interesting enough to progress it. Not that you asked for criticism right out...Also out of curiosity did you write this or is it written by someone else?
I wrote it. It's a small snippet of my Divine Blood novel...Hel is one of the supporting characters...though I may have crossed the line to ensemble cast without realizing it


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