I want a MFing WS bad


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I read the guide posted by Dechs Kaison and like everyone else who read it want one of those MFing warshades bad. I have a level 50 WS but I never knew the direction to go with it. I made this build on mids. It definitely needs some work if anyone can help me out.

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Officer Nasty: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 2: Ebon Eye -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 4: Orbiting Death -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 10: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), Dmg-I(13), Dmg-I(15), RechRdx-I(15), Acc-I(17)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Gravimetric Snare -- TotHntr-Dam%(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(21), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), ResDam-I(36)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Rchg(25)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Burnout -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Tactics -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(34), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(34)
Level 35: Unchain Essence -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(40), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(43), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(43), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(45), Stpfy-KB%(45)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(40), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Quasar -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Gravitic Emanation -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(45), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(50), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(50), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Nebulous Form -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(31)
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Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- KinCrsh-Dmg/KB(A), KinCrsh-Acc/KB(21), KinCrsh-Rchg/KB(46), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(46), KinCrsh-Dmg/EndRdx/KB(48), KinCrsh-Acc/Dmg/KB(48)
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Dmg/Rchg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(7), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rng(9), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(3), Posi-Dmg/Rng(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(29), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(29), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(31), Mocking-Rchg(31), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(37)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(11), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(17), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- Dmg-I(A)


 

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Things to look at:

You need damage in gravity well.
You've overslotted Stygian Circle.
Sunless Mire could use better slotting (try frankenslotting, if no sets appeal to you).
Unchain Essence needs to be slotted for damage.
Exchange the call to arms in Extract Essence to soulbound allegiance (Dam/rech and chance for build up).
Slot Eclipse with two Acc/Dam HOs and two recharge IOs, it's the most efficient way to slot this power.
Your dwarf ST attacks are woefully underenhanced.


 

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I havent seen your build on mids yet, but it looks like you are chasing recharge bonuses above everything else. Please keep in mind effectiveness--set bonuses mean little if your character doesnt have its basic needs filled.


 

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Hey thanks for the reply. I reworked the build with using some of your advice. Im not sure if there is anything else im not seeing. Anyone else have any input id like to read it.
Thanks.

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Officer Nasty: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt

  • (A) Damage Increase IO
Level 1: Absorption
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 2: Ebon Eye
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
Level 4: Orbiting Death
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 6: Dark Nova
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 8: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (11) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (34) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 10: Super Speed
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 12: Sunless Mire
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (13) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (17) Accuracy IO
Level 14: Shadow Cloak
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 16: Gravimetric Snare
  • (A) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 18: Gravity Well
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (19) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (19) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (48) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 20: Black Dwarf
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
  • (36) Resist Damage IO
Level 22: Stygian Circle
  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  • (23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  • (23) Miracle - Heal
  • (40) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
Level 24: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 26: Burnout
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 28: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 30: Tactics
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 32: Dark Extraction
  • (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
  • (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
  • (34) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge
Level 35: Unchain Essence
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (40) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 38: Eclipse
  • (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (39) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (39) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (39) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 41: Quasar
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (43) Accuracy IO
Level 44: Gravitic Emanation
  • (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (45) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
  • (50) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (50) Stupefy - Stun/Range
  • (50) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
Level 47: Vengeance
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 49: Stealth
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Shadow Recall
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (46) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
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Level 6: Dark Nova Blast
  • (A) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Knockback
  • (21) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Knockback
  • (46) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Knockback
  • (46) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Endurance
  • (48) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Endurance/Knockback
  • (48) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Damage/Knockback
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (7) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (7) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (9) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation
  • (A) Ragnarok - Damage
  • (3) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (3) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (5) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize
  • (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
  • (29) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
  • (29) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
  • (31) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (31) Mocking Beratement - Recharge
  • (37) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (11) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (17) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (25) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (25) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step
  • (A) Empty
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike
  • (A) Damage Increase IO


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Looking better...I would recommend trying to build for some SL defense, if you can. Stygian circle is still overslotted--it really only needs its base slot, with a recharge IO. Oh, and don't forget to pick up Stygian Return. And don't forget to choose your alpha.


 

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Thanks for your reply. Im not sure if im going to invest in the build because its a lot of cash and im not to good with ws building


 

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Maybe some day you'll get around to it, there is no rush. Perhaps the "Warshade Heaven" video in my sig will change your mind?


 

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Damnnn watched that video changed my mind. i want that mfing warshade. can you like post or pm your build that looked pretty badass


 

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Originally Posted by Sunnnn View Post
Damnnn watched that video changed my mind. i want that mfing warshade. can you like post or pm your build that looked pretty badass

Stone also just recently finished the Human Form build I made just for him on live. Wait til next time he pulls the camera out... I think I'm gonna make him do something insane and overly Warshade-indulgent with me soon.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunnnn View Post
Damnnn watched that video changed my mind. i want that mfing warshade. can you like post or pm your build that looked pretty badass
I can send you my old build, after I get home from work.

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
Stone also just recently finished the Human Form build I made just for him on live. Wait til next time he pulls the camera out... I think I'm gonna make him do something insane and overly Warshade-indulgent with me soon.
Yes...we shall have to make a new video soon. Obviously at the all kheld lambda, but...perhaps we should make a new Warshade Heaven, since the old one broke.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunnnn View Post
Damnnn watched that video changed my mind. i want that mfing warshade. can you like post or pm your build that looked pretty badass
And that was before some of the recent changes...most notably the getting stunned while form shifting issue.

Have fun putting together your shade.


 

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Is a human form shade more powerful than triform?


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunnnn View Post
Is a human form shade more powerful than triform?

That's a verrry subjective question. Human only Warshades, in my opinion, have higher potential at maximum investment. That is to say that human form offers more survivability with perma eclipse and softcapped defense, which tri form can't do without severely gimping functionality. It also has higher single target damage output, once again at max investment. With the current form shift animation times, and based on nothing but my own personal builds, it also competes with Tri Form on AOE damage, due to more consistent output.

HOWEVER...

Tri Form is going to be better at pretty much anything on any build but an all out, 'I love my Warshade, here's all my money' budget. If you're not going to spend over 10 billion Infamy on your Warshade, but you still want to play an extremely powerful and versatile character, The MFing Warshade is what you're looking for.

Even then, you might feel that you enjoy the Tri Form playstyle better and choose to invest a bunch of cash into that- It certainly never lacks in effectiveness.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunnnn View Post
Is a human form shade more powerful than triform?
It depends upon both the build and the player using that build.

Remember, whenever you choose for something you choose against something else.

In light of this I recommend that you experiment with various builds, discover what you enjoy playing, set your priorities and then put together your own build.

If you enjoy both human and triform equally, know that you can have one of each. Everyone of our characters has the ability to have 3 different builds through which we can switch while in game. Make use of that feature if you wish.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
That's a verrry subjective question. Human only Warshades, in my opinion, have higher potential at maximum investment. That is to say that human form offers more survivability with perma eclipse and softcapped defense, which tri form can't do without severely gimping functionality. It also has higher single target damage output, once again at max investment. With the current form shift animation times, and based on nothing but my own personal builds, it also competes with Tri Form on AOE damage, due to more consistent output.

HOWEVER...

Tri Form is going to be better at pretty much anything on any build but an all out, 'I love my Warshade, here's all my money' budget. If you're not going to spend over 10 billion Infamy on your Warshade, but you still want to play an extremely powerful and versatile character, The MFing Warshade is what you're looking for.

Even then, you might feel that you enjoy the Tri Form playstyle better and choose to invest a bunch of cash into that- It certainly never lacks in effectiveness.
yeahh im going to start with a tri-form IOed and if i really start to like it save up money to go human