Regen or WP ?


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hello.
can you help me choosing one of the 2 builds:

Regen build:
pro:
-Very high HPs (3k)
-very high base regen (82hp/sec)
-less toggles
-can mitigates alphas with MoG
-don't rely on footstomp FF proc to perma hasten
-very good hamidon tank !!!

con:
-not soft capped (need 1 purple to SC S/L, 2 to SC E/N, or rely on darkest night)
-weak confusion status effect resistance (can be an issue against avatar of hamidon)
-2 powers to loop (dull pain and hasten)
-no travel power

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.952
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(5), Mrcl-Heal(7)
Level 2: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(13), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(13)
Level 6: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-Rchg(17)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), HO:Nucle(45)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Heal(23), Dct'dW-Rchg(25)
Level 12: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(25), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(27), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(27), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(29), Zinger-Dam%(29)
Level 14: Boxing -- RzDz-Immob%(A)
Level 16: Integration -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(33)
Level 20: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam(33), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(33), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 24: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(36), HO:Enzym(37)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal(39), Dct'dW-Rchg(39)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(39), HO:Enzym(40)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(40), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Armgdn-Dmg(42), FrcFbk-Rechg%(42)
Level 35: Gloom -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Apoc-Dmg(43), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 41: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DampS-ToHitDeb(46), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46)
Level 44: Tactics -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(48), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(50), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(11), P'Shift-EndMod(11)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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WP build:
pro:
-only 1 power to loop (hasten)
-S/L def softcaped, incarnate trial SC'ed with darkest night
-1 purple to E/N SC, incarnate trial SC'ed with darkest night+1 purple insp.
-strong confusion status resistance
-has Super Speed

con:
-less HPs than regen
-less Health regeneration than Regen build
-perma hasten depend on footstomp FF proc (but only for 4 sec)

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(5), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(7), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(7), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(9), TtmC'tng-ResDam(9)
Level 2: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam(19)
Level 6: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(19)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 12: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(25), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(27), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(27), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(29), Zinger-Dam%(29)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(33), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(33), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(33), DampS-ToHitDeb(34)
Level 18: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36)
Level 22: Tactics -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(36), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(36), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(37), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(37)
Level 24: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 26: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam(40), RctvArm-EndRdx(50)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Armgdn-Dmg(43), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(43), FrcFbk-Rechg%(45)
Level 35: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Gloom -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(46), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Apoc-Dam%(48)
Level 44: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(48), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(48)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(17)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Both very nice builds (I might yoink the /regen actually).

There's two factors you didn't mention that I'd put on the WP 'pros' column.

-It has superior smash/lethal resistance
-It is not as vulnerable to slows (simply because nothing in its secondary requires recharging, whereas regen likes having its clicks ready for the unexpected.)


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Posted

you're right.
I think I'm gonna choose SS/regen now.
I'm still waiting for titan's weapon to try with WP (since the redraw will be less hard with WP than with regen)

thanks !


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