Ninjas?


Jibikao

 

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Hi all,

I've recently started a Ninja/FF MM and have a few questions.
I've dabbled with a few MM builds in the past so know a little about them and based on that experience I was expecting some form or self buffing/healing from the 2nd tier ninjas but there appears to be none.
Is the set all about damage and if so how much more damage does it do compared to other sets?
Is the set sub par compared to others?

I'll carry on playing the set because I do enjoy it, guess I just want to know how it compares, pros and cons etc.


L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR

Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller

 

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Thugs and Bots are usually considered the top performers. That doesn't mean Ninjas are bad, mind you. The set has a heavy melee focus and so requires more pet micromanagement than others do. Honestly, some people consider this a plus, especially with a secondary that's fire-and-forget like FF.


 

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If the Jounin didn't have that stupid poison dart, they'd be way, way better. As it stands, Ninjas have some of the weakest self-protection (Defense/Resistance/Etc) of all the pets, which is hysterical seeing as they're the only "True Melee" pets in the game.

Sigh.

Forcefield is, if nothing else, boring. Not a bad set, just boring.


 

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Originally Posted by Reppu View Post

Forcefield is, if nothing else, boring. Not a bad set, just boring.
Well, if I want to choose between "boring" or "frustrating", I think I'll choose boring. I've tried Ninja with other secondaries and it's quite frustrating as the Ninjas die so easily.

With Ninja/FF, I don't need to babysit them as much. I cast force field twice (what a buff!!!!!!) and only use aid other when needed. The rest of time I am just throwing smoke flash and veteran staff attack and replusion bomb. It's not as "boring" as it used to be because I used to bubble 6x2.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Originally Posted by Psiphon View Post
Hi all,

I've recently started a Ninja/FF MM and have a few questions.
I've dabbled with a few MM builds in the past so know a little about them and based on that experience I was expecting some form or self buffing/healing from the 2nd tier ninjas but there appears to be none.
Is the set all about damage and if so how much more damage does it do compared to other sets?
Is the set sub par compared to others?

I'll carry on playing the set because I do enjoy it, guess I just want to know how it compares, pros and cons etc.
I can tell you that my Ninja/ff has soloed Black Scorpian AV and Pylon. I would never have thought Ninja/FF could do it 'cause Ninjas usually die in one hit and I won't have enough endurance to keep resummoning, upgrading and re-bubbling each one.

The new change makes Ninja/FF a lot more powerful. I don't play Robot and Thug much so maybe I just don't know what a super powerful MM is. I do know that Ninja/FF is powerful enough and if anything that is powerful than this, it's pretty much "over-powering". :P

One tip, you definitely want Mace mastery and Power Boost. It makes a world of difference on Genin's survival. The reason Force Field works well on Ninja is that the defense stacks and shield defense "stays" on them. I've tried Ninja/Trap and it is really hard to keep Ninjas within FFG 'cause they simply run too fast and usually that split second means live/death for Genin. Ninjas run and chase because they have two caltrops and one rain of fire. Hello?? Fear much?! LOL It's like they are designed to scatter the mobs and chase them.

Ninja/Dark has much better healing now but your Genin could die within 3s before the healing even kicks in.

Besides Ninja/FF, I may try Ninja/Dark and Ninja/Storm.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.