elec/elec endgame questions


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So I actually leveled (no PL) a toon to 50 for the first time since probably 2005, and I feel that he has the potential to become my #2 toon. I'm starting to get him into the incarnate stuff now, and deciding what I want to do as far as IO's. I have just a couple questions.

1. Chain induction or jacob's ladder? I tried JL early on, didn't like it, and went without it until like level 48. But I have it now and like having it for those times when there's a pause in my attack chain. CI I had the whole way, and liked it. However, to fit maneuvers in my build, I need to drop one of them. I tend to use both mostly just as single target attacks. Any thoughts here? CI is a lot more fluid because of its faster animation, but JL recharges in half the time....so I don't know. My chain consists of havok punch, fireblast, CI, and JL...with thunderstrike thrown in sometimes.

2. What incarnate powers would you suggest? I'm planning on Spiritual, Void, Reactive, and Rebirth....and whatever Lore, doesn't really matter. My questions are mainly about spiritual and rebirth. I feel that this toon has basically the same playstyle as my main (fire/SS tank), and he has spiritual and rebirth, so I figure it would work the same here. Any better options I should think about?

3. What IO sets should I build for in general? I guess it's either +rech or +def. I'm leaning towards +def, and I can probably get him to 32% melee and S/L. That's what I did on my tank, and it made a huge difference, much more than some extra recharge would. Thoughts?


 

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1 - Chain Induction - can hit 5 targets (if I remember correctly) and jumps target to target. Id take that personally. Jacob's ladder sometimes hits 2 targets if they are lined up together
2 - I went with Pyronic - not void - tried void and liked Pyronic better. Dont remember the others off hand
3 - I went for +def vs +rchrg and tried to get a couple of Positron Blast sets in there for their recharge bonus. (and a couple of LotG recharges also)

my 2 cents


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Originally Posted by Blue Lava View Post
and tried to get a couple of Mako's Bite sets in there for their recharge bonus
I think I see an error.


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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=260718
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1. Both are good(relative to your other options), but Chain Induction is a better attack.

2. Some people go for Musculature Radial for the endmod and damage, but you can never go wrong with Spiritual.

3. Aiming for +Def and +Rech is always good on an Elec Armor character, and you can certainly reach your goals.


Here's an endgame Elec/Elec build I have(warning, too expensive):

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Originally Posted by Elegost View Post
I think I see an error.
Argh.. you are correct..

meant Positron Blast sets.. 6.25% recharge bonus for group of 5
corrected original post


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Thanks guys. I definitely can't afford a very expensive build. So I'll play around with it. I fear that I won't have enough recharge to have a seamless chain with just punch+fireblast+CI.


 

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Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
Thanks guys. I definitely can't afford a very expensive build. So I'll play around with it. I fear that I won't have enough recharge to have a seamless chain with just punch+fireblast+CI.
Both Havoc Punch and Fire Blast shouldn't belong in a top attack chain. Charged Brawl and Jacobs Ladder are better attacks in terms of damage per activation.


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Hmm really? I had charged brawl the whole way until about 47 or 48, when I switched it out for jacobs ladder. But it does so little damage, I was kind of glad to drop it.

And JL....I know its activation is similar to punch, but for some reason it feels twice as long. Don't know why.

Either way, I don't think ANY elec melee attack chain would be considered a "top attack chain". It's practically a pure AoE set. But in your opinion, what WOULD be the best ST chain for me?


 

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Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
Hmm really? I had charged brawl the whole way until about 47 or 48, when I switched it out for jacobs ladder. But it does so little damage, I was kind of glad to drop it.

And JL....I know its activation is similar to punch, but for some reason it feels twice as long. Don't know why.

Either way, I don't think ANY elec melee attack chain would be considered a "top attack chain". It's practically a pure AoE set. But in your opinion, what WOULD be the best ST chain for me?
The best attack chain for Elec Melee is CB-JL-CB-CI. It needs quite a bit of recharge into CI, but if you use that attack chain and slot expensive procs in the right attacks(see the build I posted), you can put out pretty respectable DPS.


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Hmm that's an interesting chain. I'll have to check it out, thx.