Storm Summoning Guide excerpt for feedback(Tornado)
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Just to be absolutely clear to anyone who is reading this, THIS IS WRONG!!!
Hmmm. This is setting up a conflict with the recorded data at Paragonwiki.
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So basically we'd need somewhere around Mag 560(!) in order to Knock an AV during PToD UP. 10% of 560 is Mag 56, which is enough to overcome Knock Protection ... assuming no one has thrown an Immobilize/Hold with anti-KB properties. Okay ... yeah ... this is looking non-feasible. |
That is something I have found time and time again when writing this guide is that the wiki cannot be relied on 100%. It is important to remember that it is a player resource and is therefore often 1) lacking information (for example when I was writing this guide, I don't believe that the wiki had any information about the inherent to-hit debuff resistance that enemies have related to rank) or 2) formerly correct but slow to change with an update as in the case of the Force Feedback proc or Aegis proc which has been reworked many times. (which I believe are now correct once again).
Although the wiki is a great resource, rather than just relying on it, I would encourage you to go out and test against several AVs. It's possilbe that all of the AVs I tested against (mostly lvl 50 Council AVs, but also the LGTF AVs, and Romulus) are unique in this but I doubt it.
All of the AVs that I tested in AE have 100 (NOT 50) Knockback protection with 90% (That part actually seems accurate, rather than the 85% I suggested before.) KB resistance as part of their "resistance power" (which is usually purple triangles...however...). This number (as with the 100 point repel resistance) seems unrelated to the purple triangles and never goes down (except for about 1 second before the purple triangles come back up when the protection goes to 0). It's possible that the KB protection is related to the purple triangles and that the duration of the KB protection is just set too long (thus the artifact of the second where it goes to zero). But right now, the above quoted description is NOT how KB protection for AVs works. You will actually need over 1000 points of KB to knockback an AV, and not just when purple triangles are up.
If you can find an AV that actually has 50 points of KB protection related to the purple triangles please let me know, but for now I'm going to assume that what I've seen is pretty consistent across all AVs.
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Kinetic Crash or Force Feedback 6-slotted in Gale seems to be a rather viable possibility, for those who have the slots (and the power pick) to spare for it. |
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Draggynn's Guide to Storm Summoning(Gale-Tornado, updated 6/25/2011)
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Also, in the real numbers KB resistance is not reported anywhere, but it appears that at least the AVs I tested also have KB resistance on the order of the 85% resistance that they have to other debuffs, so KBing most AVs is not a viable option. Now there may be some AVs that have lower KB protection (I know that Romulus has low or no repel protection), but in general this will not work.
As reported by Castle, the mez protection during the "triangles up" period adds 50 magnitude (stacking with inherent protection and any possible toggles or buffs), and covers Hold, Knockback, Confuse, Repel, Disorient, and Fear effects, but does not cover Sleep nor Immobilize effects. During the "triangles down" period it is 3 for Archvillains and Heroes, the same as a typical boss, and 6 for Elite Bosses, the same as a regular Elite Boss.
This power provides the following resistances during its "triangles up" period:
So basically we'd need somewhere around Mag 560(!) in order to Knock an AV during PToD UP. 10% of 560 is Mag 56, which is enough to overcome Knock Protection ... assuming no one has thrown an Immobilize/Hold with anti-KB properties. Okay ... yeah ... this is looking non-feasible.
But yeah ... it's starting to look like the only "useful" things that you can slot into Tornado are Damage, Endurance Reduction and Recharge (and Procs, if you want to do that). Unfortunately, I don't think there are any Dam/End/Rech IOs available anywhere in any of the sets you have access to for Tornado ... are there?