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NoML TSc Nightwidow Challenge

Beelzy

By Beelzy,
Posted on: 2011-06-05 06:11 in Soldiers of Arachnos

 

Posted

Alright Mids' fans, here is the challenge. Try to put together a Widow build following these criteria:

No Mind Link
Soft-Capped for Trials (59% in all positionals)
Managable Endurance
Decent attack chain
Playable

That's basically it. I'm interested in what you come up with...

 

Posted

Here's my attempt:

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Mind Link is there, but not required to hit 59% positionals, just as a buff for teammates or against defense debuffs / tohit buffs. If you really hate it, just pick Kick instead and slot it with 3 knockback enhancement IOs, so you can kick stuff in the face. Unlike some sissy excuse of an action hero from a recently rebooted franchise. *ahem*

59% in all positionals - check.
Managable endurance - +2.4eps (averaging perf shifte rproc) with all toggles on, should be alright for regular play. For long fights without external endurance buffs, would probably toggle both tactics off and possibly the pool Assault.
Decent attack chain - can run FU Slash Lunge Strike Swipe with a 0.05s gap.
Playable - wut. Er, I mean, yes?

The one weakness is the lack of a selfheal, but personally on a widow I go for Destiny Rebirth and call it a day.

That doesn't seem like such a bad build. I might go for something like that, just for kicks. Thanks for the idea.

 

Posted

Nihilii

Quite intriguing, great first submission. I look forward to seeing some other takes. But, nearly 75% in all positionals with Mind Link up... That's all kinds of nasty. Stack a Vengeance on that and you're over a hundred. I think you have just redefined the term insane defense...

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beelzy View Post
Alright Mids' fans, here is the challenge. Try to put together a Widow build following these criteria:

No Mind Link
Soft-Capped for Trials (59% in all positionals)
Managable Endurance
Decent attack chain
Playable

That's basically it. I'm interested in what you come up with...
Couple comments, from the post, I'm guessing you really don't like mindlink. I can understand, I find it annoying myself. But I do have to say that building up to 59% def without it certainly is possible, but feels somewhat like a waste. I have a fortunata build I put together that is at the normal softcap without mindlink, I figure mindlink will cover me for iTrials or def debuff. Obviously though you can build your character how you want, but completely ignoring such a good power seems a waste IMO.

Second comment, I can't say what you intended, but often when I see "challenges" like this, it really reads to me as "build my character for me cause I don't want to" especially when it's a complicated build like this with heavy requirements. I don't know that you intended that or not, but I expect you would/will get more responses if you posted a build you had put together.

 

Posted

Mind Link takes a while to cast and that's why I don't care if it's perma or not. I'll use it when I feel I need it.

Even if you don't need Mind Link's defense, Mind Link provides very rare Psionic resistance 30% base for the team, which is very amazing.

What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Vysires,

No, I have been working on the third version of the build, it came up in another thread and I thought it would be interesting. I see challenges like this as a way to see how other players find novel ways to solve problems. Let's face it, when we build in Mids' we tend to have certain patterns that we stick to out of habit more than necessity.

If you want my build, here it is come and get it...

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

NoML TSc: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Poison Dart

  • (A) Decimation - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
  • (11) Decimation - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
  • (11) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
  • (13) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
  • (13) Decimation - Chance of Build Up: Level 40
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 2: Strike
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (17) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (7) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
  • (19) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
  • (19) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
  • (21) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (21) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 6: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 8: Follow Up
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
  • (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
  • (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
  • (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
  • (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
  • (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
Level 10: Indomitable Will
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
  • (23) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (31) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 40
  • (39) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 12: Lunge
  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (33) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
  • (33) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (33) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
Level 14: Spin
  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
  • (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 16: Tactical Training: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 18: Slash
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
  • (25) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
  • (46) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (50) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (50) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (50) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 20: Mask Presence
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
  • (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
  • (37) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (37) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
  • (37) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 22: Mental Training
  • (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 24: Foresight
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
  • (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
  • (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
Level 26: Eviscerate
  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
  • (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 28: Aid Other
  • (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
Level 30: Aid Self
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 32: Maneuvers
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
  • (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
  • (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (43) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
  • (45) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 35: Kick
  • (A) Empty
Level 38: Tough
  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 30
Level 41: Weave
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
  • (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
  • (45) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
  • (46) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
Level 44: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (48) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 47: Super Jump
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
  • (48) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
Level 49: Combat Training: Offensive
  • (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Diamagnetic Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Clockwork Radial Superior Ally
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 50
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
  • (3) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
  • (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
  • (9) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
  • (9) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 13.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 7.25% Defense(Smashing)
  • 7.25% Defense(Lethal)
  • 15.1% Defense(Fire)
  • 15.1% Defense(Cold)
  • 12.3% Defense(Energy)
  • 12.3% Defense(Negative)
  • 6% Defense(Psionic)
  • 8.5% Defense(Melee)
  • 18.5% Defense(Ranged)
  • 19.4% Defense(AoE)
  • 2.25% Max End
  • 78.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 40% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 10% FlySpeed
  • 92.4 HP (8.62%) HitPoints
  • 10% JumpHeight
  • 10% JumpSpeed
  • MezResist(Held) 3.3%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 17.1%
  • 9% (0.16 End/sec) Recovery
  • 62% (3.32 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 7.56% Resistance(Fire)
  • 7.56% Resistance(Cold)
  • 6.25% Resistance(Negative)
  • 3% Resistance(Psionic)
  • 15% RunSpeed
  • 2.5% XPDebtProtection
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Set Bonuses:
Decimation
(Poison Dart)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
  • 12 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  • 2.25% Max End
  • 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Training: Defensive)
  • 10% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Crushing Impact
(Strike)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  • 12 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  • 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Luck of the Gambler
(Tactical Training: Maneuvers)
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Red Fortune
(Tactical Training: Maneuvers)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
  • 2% DamageBuff(All)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Jumping)
  • 10% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control
(Follow Up)
  • 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
  • 20.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
  • 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
  • 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
  • 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing), 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative), 2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)
Aegis
(Indomitable Will)
  • 5% RunSpeed
  • 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
  • 2.5% XPDebtProtection
  • 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
  • 3% Resistance(Psionic)
Hecatomb
(Lunge)
  • 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
  • 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
  • 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Scirocco's Dervish
(Spin)
  • 10% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 3.13% Resistance(Negative)
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
Mako's Bite
(Slash)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%
  • 16.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
  • 3% DamageBuff(All)
  • MezResist(Held) 3.3%
  • 3.75% Defense(Ranged), 1.88% Defense(Energy), 1.88% Defense(Negative)
Luck of the Gambler
(Mask Presence)
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Red Fortune
(Mask Presence)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
  • 2% DamageBuff(All)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Luck of the Gambler
(Foresight)
  • 10% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 12 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Steadfast Protection
(Foresight)
  • 3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)
Scirocco's Dervish
(Eviscerate)
  • 10% (0.54 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 3.13% Resistance(Negative)
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
Red Fortune
(Maneuvers)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
  • 2% DamageBuff(All)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative)
Gladiator's Armor
(Tough)
  • 3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)
Red Fortune
(Weave)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
  • 2% DamageBuff(All)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative)
Blessing of the Zephyr
(Super Jump)
  • 1.25% Defense(Ranged), 0.63% Defense(Energy), 0.63% Defense(Negative)
Numina's Convalescence
(Health)
  • 12% (0.64 HP/sec) Regeneration
Performance Shifter
(Stamina)
  • 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
  • 20.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
  • 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery



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I love mind link, and before starting this challenge I had never even thought of considering to begin to conceive of a build without Mind Link in it. But, it seemed like a fun challenge, and who cares if I never use any of these builds, it was all in good fun.

Edit: as I posted the last build I saw a solution to bring AoE up from .3 below cap to having all positionals capped while decreasing endurance cost.

btw: Tough is not meant to be used in this build.