Global Rech and Individual Recharge Values?


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Ok, I have a few questions when it comes to the recharge values on powers when global recharge is applied?

When I look at a powers detailed information, does the recharge displayed also include the global recharge?

I am trying to get more global recharge into my Earth/Ice/Icy and I added the following sets:

4 Slot Basalisk
5 Slot Dampened Spirits
5 Slot Obliteration
2 LotG
5 Slot Stupefy

The total recharge before Hasten is applied is 38%, after Hasten its 108%....when I look at the power info does the recharge value display as applied by the 38% and how do I calculate the end recharge when I have Hasten+global recharge applied?



The reason I ask is because to get the Basalisk into my Holds I sacraficed .20s recharge and I dont know if the global rech total compensated for that loss.

I will try to get a MIDS up as soon as I figure how to use it


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Originally Posted by Shadow Wail View Post
Ok, I have a few questions when it comes to the recharge values on powers when global recharge is applied?

When I look at a powers detailed information, does the recharge displayed also include the global recharge?

I am trying to get more global recharge into my Earth/Ice/Icy and I added the following sets:

4 Slot Basalisk
5 Slot Dampened Spirits
5 Slot Obliteration
2 LotG
5 Slot Stupefy

The total recharge before Hasten is applied is 38%, after Hasten its 108%....when I look at the power info does the recharge value display as applied by the 38% and how do I calculate the end recharge when I have Hasten+global recharge applied?



The reason I ask is because to get the Basalisk into my Holds I sacraficed .20s recharge and I dont know if the global rech total compensated for that loss.

I will try to get a MIDS up as soon as I figure how to use it
When you look at the enhancement table for powers in Mids, those numbers do not include global buffs. Alpha slot will show in the enhancement table, however. The info tab will show the combined result of enhancement+global effects, though. As far as calculating things goes, I don't know the formulas but I do know that global bonuses aren't affected by ED.

Side note: How much global recharge are you looking to get?


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Originally Posted by Shadow Wail View Post
When I look at a powers detailed information, does the recharge displayed also include the global recharge?
No, it does not.

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I am trying to get more global recharge into my Earth/Ice/Icy and I added the following sets:

4 Slot Basalisk
5 Slot Dampened Spirits
5 Slot Obliteration
2 LotG
5 Slot Stupefy

The total recharge before Hasten is applied is 38%, after Hasten its 108%....when I look at the power info does the recharge value display as applied by the 38%
No it doesn't show in Detailed Info.

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and how do I calculate the end recharge when I have Hasten+global recharge applied?
Some really complicated math I am not privy to.

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The reason I ask is because to get the Basalisk into my Holds I sacraficed .20s recharge and I dont know if the global rech total compensated for that loss.
-20% and +38%. +18% overall, so yes.


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Thanks for the help!


So my total 108% global recharge is not applied to the detailed info window and there is no clear calculation of how global recharge affects a power...I guess the higher the number the Better?

I do not know where I am really taking my Dom. A small part of me wants to set myself for S/L defense but seeing as I am a dom, I want to work my recharge to perma levels since that is my job.

I also want to aim for more damage and higher recovery since I took the Cardiac Alpha, I might take the Spiritual and Nerve alpha for their revamps so I am not sure yet


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Okay, the math is actually quite easy. Take the DR-adjusted value of recharge on the power itself, expressed as a decimal, so for example of you've got 83.32% recharge on a power, that's .8332. Add that to the decimal value of all your global recharge, which, as you say, is 1.08. Add 1, for the base recharge rate of the power. Now divide the base recharge time by that number. The result is the modified recharge time on the power.

Let's do a quick example: You have Psychic Shockwave, base recharge time of 20, base recharge rate of 1. Recharge time is 20 seconds (20/1). Now you slot 2 level 50 recharge IOs, upping the recharge rate by 83.32% after DR. Converted to decimal, this is .8332. 20/1.8332 = ~10.9 seconds. Now add your 108% global recharge. Converted to decimal, this is 1.08. 20/1 + .8332 + 1.08 = 20/2.9132 = ~6.87.

Recharge rate debuffs are calculated the same way, just by subtracting the decimalized percentage of recharge rate debuff from the total rate, then take that modified figure, and divide the recharge time by it. Note that there is an absolute minimum recharge rate to which a target may be reduced: 25%. At that rate, all powers take four times as long to recharge as normal.

By the way, Mids DOES show the effects of set bonuses and Invention set bonuses in the detailed info for a power. It can even show the effects of recharge enhancing powers like Accelerate Metabolism and Hasten, if you just open the Totals tab and toggle the powers in question to green. Auto powers will be toggled on by default, others have to be activated manually. You can also add incarnate abilities, accolades, etc, by activating them in the upper right hand corner, and when you tab back to Info, you'll see the numbers for each power updated for the effects you have input.